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Does hyper threading improve your CPU's performance?

Does hyper threading improve your CPU's performance?

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60NoMeuPau
Member
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12-12-2016, 06:46 PM
#1
Does an Intel processor with 2 cores and 8 threads outperform a basic quad-core processor? I need to know the truth.
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60NoMeuPau
12-12-2016, 06:46 PM #1

Does an Intel processor with 2 cores and 8 threads outperform a basic quad-core processor? I need to know the truth.

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MrCm
Senior Member
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12-18-2016, 11:00 AM
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sachin kumar pragapatii :
Does an intel processor having 2 cores and 8 threads can it perform better than a simple quard core processor ?
i konw that it is in real or not i want to know about it . please !
sachin kumar pragapatii :
no i know that there is no cpu with 2 cores and 8 threads but i want to know that if a cpu has these specs .
Will it would perform better than a simple quad core.
Probably not. In fact, you'd probably see the performance drop back into Core 2 territory. It's not an exact comparison, but here's what you would need to consider:
-- Core i3/i5/i7/i9 CPUs have 2 sets of cache memory on the CPU: L2 & L3. Each
physical
core gets 256kB of L2 cache; HyperThreading splits this L2 cache so that each thread/logical core gets a proportional...
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MrCm
12-18-2016, 11:00 AM #2

sachin kumar pragapatii :
Does an intel processor having 2 cores and 8 threads can it perform better than a simple quard core processor ?
i konw that it is in real or not i want to know about it . please !
sachin kumar pragapatii :
no i know that there is no cpu with 2 cores and 8 threads but i want to know that if a cpu has these specs .
Will it would perform better than a simple quad core.
Probably not. In fact, you'd probably see the performance drop back into Core 2 territory. It's not an exact comparison, but here's what you would need to consider:
-- Core i3/i5/i7/i9 CPUs have 2 sets of cache memory on the CPU: L2 & L3. Each
physical
core gets 256kB of L2 cache; HyperThreading splits this L2 cache so that each thread/logical core gets a proportional...

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enoga
Junior Member
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12-19-2016, 07:38 PM
#3
I believe you're referring to 2 cores with 4 threads, and also mention that it's closer to 2.5-3 cores.
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enoga
12-19-2016, 07:38 PM #3

I believe you're referring to 2 cores with 4 threads, and also mention that it's closer to 2.5-3 cores.

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goldenfire64
Junior Member
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12-19-2016, 09:01 PM
#4
I understand you're unsure about CPUs with 2 cores and 8 threads, and you're curious about their performance compared to a standard quad-core processor.
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goldenfire64
12-19-2016, 09:01 PM #4

I understand you're unsure about CPUs with 2 cores and 8 threads, and you're curious about their performance compared to a standard quad-core processor.

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duta_
Member
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12-23-2016, 12:16 PM
#5
Oh an imaginary cpu. I would said, no. the HT only use when there are free cycle on the cores, and sharing resource.
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duta_
12-23-2016, 12:16 PM #5

Oh an imaginary cpu. I would said, no. the HT only use when there are free cycle on the cores, and sharing resource.

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BenstoLP
Junior Member
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12-25-2016, 04:17 AM
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Considering these hypothetical CPUs, it's challenging to give a clear answer. Comparing Intel i3 2 core 4 thread, i5 4 core 4 thread, and i7 4 core 8 thread shows that each generation improves progressively. Therefore, a true 4 core 4 thread processor is superior to a 2 core 4 thread one. Keeping specifications consistent between a 2 core 4 thread and a 2 core 8 thread makes it seem like the 8 threads are being disadvantaged due to increased resource splitting. Based on this reasoning, I'd estimate a 2 core 8 thread would lag behind a genuine 4 core 4 thread CPU but perform slightly better than a 2 core 4 thread.
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BenstoLP
12-25-2016, 04:17 AM #6

Considering these hypothetical CPUs, it's challenging to give a clear answer. Comparing Intel i3 2 core 4 thread, i5 4 core 4 thread, and i7 4 core 8 thread shows that each generation improves progressively. Therefore, a true 4 core 4 thread processor is superior to a 2 core 4 thread one. Keeping specifications consistent between a 2 core 4 thread and a 2 core 8 thread makes it seem like the 8 threads are being disadvantaged due to increased resource splitting. Based on this reasoning, I'd estimate a 2 core 8 thread would lag behind a genuine 4 core 4 thread CPU but perform slightly better than a 2 core 4 thread.

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ImNotYourMummy
Junior Member
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01-12-2017, 10:52 AM
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Sachin Kumar Pragapatii:
Can an Intel processor with two cores and eight threads outperform a basic quad-core model?
I understand whether such a CPU exists, but I’m curious about what happens if it does have these specifications.

Will it really be superior? Probably not. In reality, you’d likely notice the performance slipping back into the Core 2 range. It’s not a direct comparison, but here are some factors to think about:

-- CPUs with two cores and eight threads typically feature two sets of cache memory: L2 and L3. Each physical core receives 256kB of L2; HyperThreading distributes this so that each logical thread gets a share. For example, the i3-7350K offers 4MB of L3, which translates to about 1MB per thread.
-- Most Core i5 models, especially desktop versions, lack HyperThreading but some mobile variants (like the i5-7287U) use dual-core with HyperThreading. These have more L3 cache (4MB total), giving roughly 2MB per core or 1MB per thread. Their L2 remains limited to 256kB per core.
-- For desktop CPUs, matching L3 cache is possible. Many i5 models provide around 6MB of L3 (6,144kB), which equals about 1.5MB per core.
-- Considering your hypothetical CPU, each core would manage four threads instead of two. This cuts the available L2 cache per thread to half, and overall cache usage drops significantly. For a Core i3-based design, this could mean 512kB per thread or 1MB per thread; for a desktop/i5 model, it’s similar.
-- Running at four logical threads instead of two means each thread gets only half the L2 space. If you compare to a Core i3 CPU, that would be roughly 512kB per thread; for a hybrid i5 design, it could reach 768kB per thread.
-- In summary, the main limitation comes from the reduced L2 cache per core. Even with matching L3, the overall speed advantage would likely be limited. The best you’d get is comparable to or slightly better than a Core 4/8T CPU, but not a clear win.
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ImNotYourMummy
01-12-2017, 10:52 AM #7

Sachin Kumar Pragapatii:
Can an Intel processor with two cores and eight threads outperform a basic quad-core model?
I understand whether such a CPU exists, but I’m curious about what happens if it does have these specifications.

Will it really be superior? Probably not. In reality, you’d likely notice the performance slipping back into the Core 2 range. It’s not a direct comparison, but here are some factors to think about:

-- CPUs with two cores and eight threads typically feature two sets of cache memory: L2 and L3. Each physical core receives 256kB of L2; HyperThreading distributes this so that each logical thread gets a share. For example, the i3-7350K offers 4MB of L3, which translates to about 1MB per thread.
-- Most Core i5 models, especially desktop versions, lack HyperThreading but some mobile variants (like the i5-7287U) use dual-core with HyperThreading. These have more L3 cache (4MB total), giving roughly 2MB per core or 1MB per thread. Their L2 remains limited to 256kB per core.
-- For desktop CPUs, matching L3 cache is possible. Many i5 models provide around 6MB of L3 (6,144kB), which equals about 1.5MB per core.
-- Considering your hypothetical CPU, each core would manage four threads instead of two. This cuts the available L2 cache per thread to half, and overall cache usage drops significantly. For a Core i3-based design, this could mean 512kB per thread or 1MB per thread; for a desktop/i5 model, it’s similar.
-- Running at four logical threads instead of two means each thread gets only half the L2 space. If you compare to a Core i3 CPU, that would be roughly 512kB per thread; for a hybrid i5 design, it could reach 768kB per thread.
-- In summary, the main limitation comes from the reduced L2 cache per core. Even with matching L3, the overall speed advantage would likely be limited. The best you’d get is comparable to or slightly better than a Core 4/8T CPU, but not a clear win.