F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Do you have any advice for making your build cleaner?

Do you have any advice for making your build cleaner?

Do you have any advice for making your build cleaner?

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PvpAngle
Junior Member
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02-16-2019, 12:47 PM
#1
Hello
I've assembled my PC over the past few years, updating and modifying components. I now have a fully wired power supply, with fan wires scattered around, storage devices neatly organized, and cables mostly hidden inside the back panel case and frame.

Can I remove the unused wires? Would it be possible to install supports or spacers so I can lift the motherboard and keep the wires in place? Also, do I need extensions for the I/O cables to allow rerouting them?

System details:
CPU: AMD 5 3600
CPU cooler: included with CPU
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Fatal1ty
RAM: 2 x 8GB and 2 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600
SSD/HDD: multiple types and capacities available
GPU: xfx Radeon RX 580 8GB
Power supply: Corsair VS550 550 W ATX
Chassis: Corsair carbide spec-04
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PvpAngle
02-16-2019, 12:47 PM #1

Hello
I've assembled my PC over the past few years, updating and modifying components. I now have a fully wired power supply, with fan wires scattered around, storage devices neatly organized, and cables mostly hidden inside the back panel case and frame.

Can I remove the unused wires? Would it be possible to install supports or spacers so I can lift the motherboard and keep the wires in place? Also, do I need extensions for the I/O cables to allow rerouting them?

System details:
CPU: AMD 5 3600
CPU cooler: included with CPU
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Fatal1ty
RAM: 2 x 8GB and 2 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance 3600
SSD/HDD: multiple types and capacities available
GPU: xfx Radeon RX 580 8GB
Power supply: Corsair VS550 550 W ATX
Chassis: Corsair carbide spec-04

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___iRekt___
Senior Member
505
02-16-2019, 09:26 PM
#2
No, this might lead to many issues.
I haven't encountered it before.
Indeed, the case front I/O can be expanded as required.
Generally, you aim for a fully modular PSU. I can suggest one that is a reliable option, minimizing unnecessary cables if you share your system specifications.
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___iRekt___
02-16-2019, 09:26 PM #2

No, this might lead to many issues.
I haven't encountered it before.
Indeed, the case front I/O can be expanded as required.
Generally, you aim for a fully modular PSU. I can suggest one that is a reliable option, minimizing unnecessary cables if you share your system specifications.

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LapisCookieYT
Member
78
02-18-2019, 05:16 PM
#3
When sharing a troubleshooting thread, it's important to provide complete system details. List your specifications clearly, such as:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
Also mention the age of the PSU along with its make and model.
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LapisCookieYT
02-18-2019, 05:16 PM #3

When sharing a troubleshooting thread, it's important to provide complete system details. List your specifications clearly, such as:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
Also mention the age of the PSU along with its make and model.

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JRWiebs
Junior Member
9
02-21-2019, 04:07 PM
#4
I didn’t expect to need to share details about my PC since it was mainly about cable management.
I wouldn’t risk damaging myself or my cats by cutting any wires, as they’re made of metal. I’d remove unused wires and secure them with heat shrink. Then I’d dip the wires in a liquid latex and silicone to prevent shortages.
I didn’t consider how to mount components like the GPU or I/O boards.
For now, I’ll just have some food and provide specs in my next post.
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JRWiebs
02-21-2019, 04:07 PM #4

I didn’t expect to need to share details about my PC since it was mainly about cable management.
I wouldn’t risk damaging myself or my cats by cutting any wires, as they’re made of metal. I’d remove unused wires and secure them with heat shrink. Then I’d dip the wires in a liquid latex and silicone to prevent shortages.
I didn’t consider how to mount components like the GPU or I/O boards.
For now, I’ll just have some food and provide specs in my next post.

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xLillyLOL
Junior Member
25
02-21-2019, 06:03 PM
#5
Even though you should still use the power supply, opt for a high-quality modular version since the CV you're running is of low quality. Purchase the correct one—it will come with at least a 10-year warranty, allowing you to use it in your current project and possibly future ones.
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xLillyLOL
02-21-2019, 06:03 PM #5

Even though you should still use the power supply, opt for a high-quality modular version since the CV you're running is of low quality. Purchase the correct one—it will come with at least a 10-year warranty, allowing you to use it in your current project and possibly future ones.

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154
02-21-2019, 06:23 PM
#6
If you wish to include images for your build in this thread, you should upload them to a platform similar to Imgur and share the links with us.
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Bellabell11295
02-21-2019, 06:23 PM #6

If you wish to include images for your build in this thread, you should upload them to a platform similar to Imgur and share the links with us.

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SSGSS_Saiyan
Member
160
02-21-2019, 06:36 PM
#7
Although I personally wouldn't chop wires off a fully wired (non-modular) ATX PSU, if you intend to sleeve each exposed wire individually, one layer of heat shrink should be sufficient. You only need two layers of insulation when insulating wires at mains voltage (double isolation). After all, the wires that come out of the PSU are bunched together with only one layer of insulation and there's nothing above 12V DC.
As for invalidating the warranty, if your VS550 is more than 3 years old, the warranty has expired. I'd second other people and recommend a higher quality PSU, e.g. something from Corsair's RM series. They're more expensive but are better designed/built, with longer warranties.
You could buy longer tapped spacers and raise the height of the motherboard, but then the rear connector panel wouldn't match the aperture in the back of the case and you won't be able to bolt down any PCI cards. The RX580 is a fairly heavy card and the top bracket needs to be secured. You might not be able to fit the side panel if you raise the motherboard too high, if the GPU card or CPU cooler clash.
The AMD 3600 is specified up to DDR4-3200, so it might not work at 3600MT/s, especially if you fit 4 DIMMs instead of 2 DIMMs. If the timimgs of the 2x8GB pair are significantly different from the 2x16GB pair, expect problems at higher XMP speeds.
A single kit of 4 matched DIMMs (not two kits of 2 DIMMs) is likely to give the most stable operation. Expect to play around with XMP settings and manually tweak a few Primary timings (such as CAS/CL) if the system fails to POST with two mismatched kits of different capacities.
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 3600.html
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SSGSS_Saiyan
02-21-2019, 06:36 PM #7

Although I personally wouldn't chop wires off a fully wired (non-modular) ATX PSU, if you intend to sleeve each exposed wire individually, one layer of heat shrink should be sufficient. You only need two layers of insulation when insulating wires at mains voltage (double isolation). After all, the wires that come out of the PSU are bunched together with only one layer of insulation and there's nothing above 12V DC.
As for invalidating the warranty, if your VS550 is more than 3 years old, the warranty has expired. I'd second other people and recommend a higher quality PSU, e.g. something from Corsair's RM series. They're more expensive but are better designed/built, with longer warranties.
You could buy longer tapped spacers and raise the height of the motherboard, but then the rear connector panel wouldn't match the aperture in the back of the case and you won't be able to bolt down any PCI cards. The RX580 is a fairly heavy card and the top bracket needs to be secured. You might not be able to fit the side panel if you raise the motherboard too high, if the GPU card or CPU cooler clash.
The AMD 3600 is specified up to DDR4-3200, so it might not work at 3600MT/s, especially if you fit 4 DIMMs instead of 2 DIMMs. If the timimgs of the 2x8GB pair are significantly different from the 2x16GB pair, expect problems at higher XMP speeds.
A single kit of 4 matched DIMMs (not two kits of 2 DIMMs) is likely to give the most stable operation. Expect to play around with XMP settings and manually tweak a few Primary timings (such as CAS/CL) if the system fails to POST with two mismatched kits of different capacities.
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 3600.html