Do you believe your motherboard requires replacement or is there a way to preserve it?
Do you believe your motherboard requires replacement or is there a way to preserve it?
So, i have posted a couple of threads before, maybe years ago, it's all about my PC keep going no display but the sound still on for a few secs and then get restarted soon after that, right now its happening again, usually when i play games like Where Winds Meet, Bellwright or even for light games like SurrounDead.
It keeps happening at random time, sometimes it runs okay for hours and then suddenly no display or maybe even at the start of gaming session, for the latest moment that happened was yesterday, i was playing Dota 2 for 2 matches prob like 90 minutes running fine and then when i play Bellwright it just crashed again in matter of minutes.
This has been happening from years ago, usually when this thing happening i have to reseat the RAMs and hope its gonna be alright, but when i'm reseating the RAMs its not always going to POST, i have to keep swapping the ram slots untill it POST, but now it seems not working anymore no matter how many time i tried reseating the RAM's.
Here's are the condition of all the things have happened since this problem keep happening from years ago to the present day:
1
. Its been happening maybe from 2022 IIRC. and if i unplug the pc without power for days or weeks sometimes it wont post again even tho it was running fine before and i have to reseat the RAMs Again untill it post
2
. I have changed the PSU from unpopular brand ( kinda forget the name ) into Corsair 650W Bronze 80+ but the problem keeps happening.
3
. I have changed the RAM from Ballistix 3000Mhz into Kingston Fury 3200 still its not fixed
4
. I Once dropped the CPU untill the corner of the PIN bent when i was changing the CPU FAN but i have realigned it again with Razor Blade and now its running fine ( i think ) but i notice that the RAM slot of B1 and B2 not functional anymore, sometime it post but not detected . This is after i dropped the CPU but before i drop the CPU and after this no display problem keep happening.
5
. All the Temp from CPU and GPU was about 60+ Celcius Degree when it crashed so overheat is not the problem.
6
. I have changed the PC case too because it was too shabby before, now its kinda proper ( Montech X2 Mesh )
7
. I have asking around ChatGPT and it points me into motherboard problems.
8.
Based on what ChatGPT said that this is happening because i was Daisy-chaining the Power Strip because it cant reach my PC power cable, and also plug my table Fan into the same powerstrip.
9
. When my pc turned on, i power on the Fan and it cause some flickering into my pc or a blank screen for a mini second and then running fine, but ChatGPT Said it means my power unstable and cause voltage spike for my PC causing that flicker and no display .
So the question is "Do you think my motherboard need replacement or this could be other parts of the PC that causing the problem ? "
Its still using the same GPU, CPU and Motherboard from years ago, maybe around 2020-2021, I hope it's the motherboard that's the root of the problems.
If it's the motherboard can you suggest me some AM4 motherboard that have the same specification, 4 RAM slots, M.2 Gen 4 SSD, etc.
Here are my complete specs :
Motherboard : AsRock B450 Steel Legend
CPU : Ryzen 5 3600
GPU : MSI 3060ti Ventus OC 2X
RAM: Kingston Fury 8GB x 2
PSU : Corsair 650W 80+ Bronze
CPU : Ryzen 5 3600
How are you cooling the processor?
GPU : MSI 3060ti Ventus OC 2X
The RTX 3000 series was known to have high transient load spikes which resulted in users being advised to overprovision on the wattage of a PSU besides looking into a reliably built PSU when shopping for a PSU to pair with their systems.
PSU : Corsair 650W 80+ Bronze
Corsair is the brand of the unit, while 650W is the advertised wattage of the PSU and 80+ Bronze is the 80+ efficiency rating for the unit. What is the model of the PSU and it's age?
Motherboard : AsRock B450 Steel Legend
What BIOS version are you on for your motherboard?
I have changed the PSU from unpopular brand ( kinda forget the name ) into Corsair 650W Bronze 80+ but the problem keeps happening.
What were you on prior and for how long?
I Once dropped the CPU untill the corner of the PIN bent when i was changing the CPU FAN but i have realigned it again with Razor Blade and now its running fine ( i think ) but i notice that the RAM slot of B1 and B2 not functional anymore, sometime it post but not detected .
You might've knocked out the IMC for channel B, perhaps. Either that or your BIOS needs updating, if there are BIOS updates pending.
Moved thread from Motherboards section to Systems section.
How is the processor being cooled?
I use a Deep Cool AG400 (purchased one year ago or less).
What is the model of the PSU and its age?
It seems to be a Corsair CV650 80+ Bronze, around 2 years old (April 2024).
What BIOS version are you running on your motherboard?
P4.60
Microcode Update: 870F10/8701021
What have you been using before and for how long?
Previously I had a Lux Aerocool Modular 650M for about 2-3 years.
Based on the symptoms and what @Lutfij mentions, I suggest replacing the motherboard and the power supply unit. Bending CPU contacts during a drop can leave them misaligned, and when your IMC's B-channel failed, it indicates some contacts remain bent. I experienced issues with my Gigabyte RTX 3060 using an older Corsair TX850M PSU, which resolved after switching to a newer MSI A1000G PSU. You should ensure sufficient power margin for certain NVidia cards. An 850W ATX Gen. 2.1 PSU wasn’t adequate for the 3060, but upgrading to a 1000W ATX Gen. 3.1 prevented the system from freezing.
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It was a Lux Aerocool Modular 650M for 2-3 years.
Tier-E/F unit, it's considered outdated and should be discarded. You managed to replace it well, but I believe the Corsair CV650 80+ Bronze is better, especially since April 2024. However, other PSU models from this brand are also considered poor quality.
PSU cultists often rate Corsair PSUs positively due to their association with the brand, so keep in mind when using this list.
P4.60
https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/b450 steel legend/index.asp#BIOS
Try it out; ensure you're using the most recent chipset driver from AMD's support site. Install it via an elevated command, then flash the BIOS to 10.43. After that, clear the CMOS once you confirm the BIOS update was successful.
I don’t have any further advice regarding your PSU other than replacement.
Sorry for the delayed response, I was attempting to fix the issue once more. I was told about the OCCT test. What I did was install a 8GB RAM stick in the A2 slots, set the speed to 3000 Mhz, and set the memory limit to 70% for 15 minutes – it worked without any errors. Then I tried to install another stick; it wouldn’t post until I cleaned the RAM with a pencil eraser and it did. I repeated the same process but only for 5 minutes.
Before doing that, here are some points to note:
1. I mostly bought PC parts in 2021 (besides the PSU).
2. This issue seems to have occurred first around 2022 or 2023 (based on the thread post history and my friend’s chat).
3. Here are the results of the OCCT Memory Stress Test:
- Run 1: 1 RAM stick 8GB on A2 at 3000 Mhz, 15 minutes, no error, avg temp 55°C, avg voltage 1.36–1.38V.
- Run 2: 1 RAM stick 8GB on A2 at 2400 Mhz, 5 minutes, no error, avg temp 55°C, avg voltage 1.36–1.39V.
- After the test, load stress decreased normally and temperature stabilized, but voltage fluctuations occurred (jumped between 0.200 V to 1.431 V). See photo: https://imgur.com/TDFdTFW and view: https://imgur.com/TDFdTFW.
Questions:
1. Based on this data, can I confidently say my motherboard is the main problem and all other components are safe?
2. If I upgrade to MSI MPG B550 Gaming Plus, will it improve performance and prevent crashes?
3. If I left my PC unplugged for weeks, do I need to reinsert the RAM to boot, or can I just connect the power cable and turn it on normally without issues?
Probably not.
If your CPU fell, it could be damaged.
A dark screen suggests GPU and/or PSU issues too.
It's uncertain until you've tested it.
Usually this isn't necessary.
Are you in a high humidity area?
Ensure the DDR voltage is set to 1.35V.
I modified the PSU before and after the crashes still occurred. I also changed the RAM, but the issue remains.
I reside in a tropical zone in SEA.
I attempted to run with 2400 default speed, but the error persists.
I tried 3000 and 3200 at 1.35V, yet the problem continues.
If the memory test completes without errors, but after testing the Volt CORE it drops to 0.2 V and this keeps happening, considering the Ryzen idle state max is 0.7 V, is the issue with the CPU or the motherboard?
High moisture levels may cause harm.
Salt-laden coastal winds can hasten rusting.