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DiscussionBuild from HELL

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VoltaDZN
Junior Member
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01-21-2022, 10:33 PM
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I’ve completed seven projects over the past five years using both Intel and AMD systems – each one proceeded without issues, making this a satisfying project for me.
I’ve heard horror tales from others facing difficult situations and trusted my meticulous approach would keep me in a positive state…NOPE!!
My most recent build featured an X670E paired with a 7950X, which took several weeks to resolve through multiple returns and exchanges. The process turned from a hobby into a stressful situation! The challenges included:
1) Four motherboards (two ASUS – X670E Crosshair Hero and two MSI – MEG X670E ACE). Three were permanently unusable after manufacturer support, regardless of CMOS or flashback BIOS adjustments.
2) Three CPUs – the 7950X I purchased was eventually returned after the motherboards failed. I then acquired a 7900X from a local Microcenter (they didn’t stock the 7950X), which performed worse than the 5950X I was swapping out. I returned the 7900X and ordered another 7950X, which finally worked.
3) Two distinct NVMe drives for the OS build attempt.
4) Two sets of RAM, which were returned or exchanged just before the original CPU was sent back.
With the first three motherboards, I tried to run the build using the 7000 series internal GPU to simplify things. While a bad CPU is unlikely, it’s possible the CPU itself had an issue (possibly with the integrated GPU) that caused the failures. With the last motherboard, I bypassed the iGPU and used a dedicated GPU to achieve a functional build. I also switched to a different CPU at that stage.
I never managed to get a fully installed Windows 11 Pro with the latest BIOS and drivers before the motherboards failed. All three units shared the same problem – a GPU error light and related debugging messages.
Despite these hurdles, switching between motherboards and CPUs made me quite skilled at handling CPU coolers – a skill I now find more amusing than it did back then.
Now that I have a working, complete system, I’m ready to enjoy my hobby once more!
Sharing this story, by the way… if this had been my first build, I probably wouldn’t have tried it again…
Any similar stories out there???
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VoltaDZN
01-21-2022, 10:33 PM #1

I’ve completed seven projects over the past five years using both Intel and AMD systems – each one proceeded without issues, making this a satisfying project for me.
I’ve heard horror tales from others facing difficult situations and trusted my meticulous approach would keep me in a positive state…NOPE!!
My most recent build featured an X670E paired with a 7950X, which took several weeks to resolve through multiple returns and exchanges. The process turned from a hobby into a stressful situation! The challenges included:
1) Four motherboards (two ASUS – X670E Crosshair Hero and two MSI – MEG X670E ACE). Three were permanently unusable after manufacturer support, regardless of CMOS or flashback BIOS adjustments.
2) Three CPUs – the 7950X I purchased was eventually returned after the motherboards failed. I then acquired a 7900X from a local Microcenter (they didn’t stock the 7950X), which performed worse than the 5950X I was swapping out. I returned the 7900X and ordered another 7950X, which finally worked.
3) Two distinct NVMe drives for the OS build attempt.
4) Two sets of RAM, which were returned or exchanged just before the original CPU was sent back.
With the first three motherboards, I tried to run the build using the 7000 series internal GPU to simplify things. While a bad CPU is unlikely, it’s possible the CPU itself had an issue (possibly with the integrated GPU) that caused the failures. With the last motherboard, I bypassed the iGPU and used a dedicated GPU to achieve a functional build. I also switched to a different CPU at that stage.
I never managed to get a fully installed Windows 11 Pro with the latest BIOS and drivers before the motherboards failed. All three units shared the same problem – a GPU error light and related debugging messages.
Despite these hurdles, switching between motherboards and CPUs made me quite skilled at handling CPU coolers – a skill I now find more amusing than it did back then.
Now that I have a working, complete system, I’m ready to enjoy my hobby once more!
Sharing this story, by the way… if this had been my first build, I probably wouldn’t have tried it again…
Any similar stories out there???

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Mai_Games
Member
105
01-22-2022, 12:38 AM
#2
Great comment. It seems the same parts were involved in all attempts. GPU, PSU, RAM? If other factors are excluded, it might point to one of those components.
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Mai_Games
01-22-2022, 12:38 AM #2

Great comment. It seems the same parts were involved in all attempts. GPU, PSU, RAM? If other factors are excluded, it might point to one of those components.

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kevlight678
Junior Member
47
01-22-2022, 06:45 AM
#3
In the end, only the monitor and CPU were shared among all three bricked boards. Two PSUs were used throughout, along with various HDMI cables. The unusual aspect was that all three boards functioned for one or two hours before the hard hang occurred. The diagnostics indicated the GPU was the only component affected, being strictly the iGPU. I attempted to install a dedicated GPU after the boards hung, but it didn’t help—once a board failed, the process was stopped permanently. It seems unlikely, though, that either the monitor or the first CPU encountered an issue that would permanently brick the motherboard graphics after a brief successful run.
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kevlight678
01-22-2022, 06:45 AM #3

In the end, only the monitor and CPU were shared among all three bricked boards. Two PSUs were used throughout, along with various HDMI cables. The unusual aspect was that all three boards functioned for one or two hours before the hard hang occurred. The diagnostics indicated the GPU was the only component affected, being strictly the iGPU. I attempted to install a dedicated GPU after the boards hung, but it didn’t help—once a board failed, the process was stopped permanently. It seems unlikely, though, that either the monitor or the first CPU encountered an issue that would permanently brick the motherboard graphics after a brief successful run.

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_SaltyQuartz_
Member
53
01-22-2022, 09:13 AM
#4
All indications suggest the CPU is the issue. It's improbable the monitor was responsible. Possibility of a CPU defect causing bent pins exists.
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_SaltyQuartz_
01-22-2022, 09:13 AM #4

All indications suggest the CPU is the issue. It's improbable the monitor was responsible. Possibility of a CPU defect causing bent pins exists.

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Zhinky
Junior Member
6
01-22-2022, 12:37 PM
#5
A troublesome story.
Could power surges or static have been the cause?
Your determination is commendable, thank you for resolving it.
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Zhinky
01-22-2022, 12:37 PM #5

A troublesome story.
Could power surges or static have been the cause?
Your determination is commendable, thank you for resolving it.

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Fluppi00
Member
64
01-22-2022, 09:20 PM
#6
It was powered by a Tripp-Lite 2200 VA Online UPS system all the time, converting to DC and producing AC sine wave output. I didn't want any disruptions during Windows installation or BIOS updates.
I wear a grounded wrist strap while assembling, and my workspace is on bare concrete floor, which prevents any static shocks.
That seems like a reasonable alternative!
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Fluppi00
01-22-2022, 09:20 PM #6

It was powered by a Tripp-Lite 2200 VA Online UPS system all the time, converting to DC and producing AC sine wave output. I didn't want any disruptions during Windows installation or BIOS updates.
I wear a grounded wrist strap while assembling, and my workspace is on bare concrete floor, which prevents any static shocks.
That seems like a reasonable alternative!