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Discussion about simultaneous multithreading or hyperthreading in gaming performance

Discussion about simultaneous multithreading or hyperthreading in gaming performance

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MasterHD7
Senior Member
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02-12-2022, 10:46 AM
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Are you wondering if turning off Simaltionary Multitreading or Hyperthreading really affects performance in non-gaming applications more than just slightly? You discovered your game struggles with multithreading on your i7-9750h but works fine on your i7-13700k, even though both have Hyperthreading active. This suggests the 13th generation might lack SMT support compared to the older 9th generation. Regarding other programs, disabling SMT could noticeably slow down applications outside of gaming. Please let me know if this isn’t the best spot for your question—I wasn’t sure it fully fits here.
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MasterHD7
02-12-2022, 10:46 AM #1

Are you wondering if turning off Simaltionary Multitreading or Hyperthreading really affects performance in non-gaming applications more than just slightly? You discovered your game struggles with multithreading on your i7-9750h but works fine on your i7-13700k, even though both have Hyperthreading active. This suggests the 13th generation might lack SMT support compared to the older 9th generation. Regarding other programs, disabling SMT could noticeably slow down applications outside of gaming. Please let me know if this isn’t the best spot for your question—I wasn’t sure it fully fits here.

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KrimaseKK
Junior Member
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02-12-2022, 04:03 PM
#2
SMT stands for AMD's Hyperthreading. Intel doesn't employ this technology. The i7 9750H and i7 13700kf both support Hyperthreading. The laptop's CPU features six cores with Hyperthreading (12 threads), whereas the 13700kf includes eight performance cores with Hyperthreading (16 threads) plus eight efficiency cores, which operate at around the same level as the i7 9750H cores. Turning off Hyperthreading on the i7 9750H reduces it to a six-core, six-thread configuration similar to older i5 CPUs from the 8000/9000 series. Removing both efficiency and performance cores significantly impacts performance, though results depend heavily on the application. Hyperthreading originally offered modest gains—now it delivers much better performance in many games and programs. Efficiency cores add further benefits.
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KrimaseKK
02-12-2022, 04:03 PM #2

SMT stands for AMD's Hyperthreading. Intel doesn't employ this technology. The i7 9750H and i7 13700kf both support Hyperthreading. The laptop's CPU features six cores with Hyperthreading (12 threads), whereas the 13700kf includes eight performance cores with Hyperthreading (16 threads) plus eight efficiency cores, which operate at around the same level as the i7 9750H cores. Turning off Hyperthreading on the i7 9750H reduces it to a six-core, six-thread configuration similar to older i5 CPUs from the 8000/9000 series. Removing both efficiency and performance cores significantly impacts performance, though results depend heavily on the application. Hyperthreading originally offered modest gains—now it delivers much better performance in many games and programs. Efficiency cores add further benefits.

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Creeperkilll
Member
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02-12-2022, 06:02 PM
#3
Hyperthreading refers to a branding concept. Simultaneous Multithreading describes the actual technology. AMD didn’t create a unique name; they just label their version as SMT.
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Creeperkilll
02-12-2022, 06:02 PM #3

Hyperthreading refers to a branding concept. Simultaneous Multithreading describes the actual technology. AMD didn’t create a unique name; they just label their version as SMT.

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CobraBlizard
Member
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02-15-2022, 06:25 AM
#4
I thought SMT was separate from Hyperthreading. But now I'm really confused. If both CPUs support Hyperthreading and the game works fine on one system with basic specs but crashes on another, it seems like the game doesn't handle multiple threads well. I have no idea how to fix this. Ugh...
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CobraBlizard
02-15-2022, 06:25 AM #4

I thought SMT was separate from Hyperthreading. But now I'm really confused. If both CPUs support Hyperthreading and the game works fine on one system with basic specs but crashes on another, it seems like the game doesn't handle multiple threads well. I have no idea how to fix this. Ugh...

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SidneyPOA
Member
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02-15-2022, 06:01 PM
#5
Consider turning off the E-Cores and re-test. Also, are you using the most recent BIOS and drivers?
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SidneyPOA
02-15-2022, 06:01 PM #5

Consider turning off the E-Cores and re-test. Also, are you using the most recent BIOS and drivers?

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avi15
Member
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02-15-2022, 07:02 PM
#6
It depends on the number of threads needed. Going under their requirements can cause performance drops. This seems to be an older game that's causing issues. You might limit software to use just a few cores, which is feasible.
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avi15
02-15-2022, 07:02 PM #6

It depends on the number of threads needed. Going under their requirements can cause performance drops. This seems to be an older game that's causing issues. You might limit software to use just a few cores, which is feasible.

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LeFqkeDeHori
Junior Member
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02-17-2022, 06:03 PM
#7
I updated the BIOS about three months ago once the PC arrived. I’m unsure if a newer version is available. All my drivers seem current, except for one that’s listed under the optional category in the Windows update section, where I limited them to the existing P-Cores.
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LeFqkeDeHori
02-17-2022, 06:03 PM #7

I updated the BIOS about three months ago once the PC arrived. I’m unsure if a newer version is available. All my drivers seem current, except for one that’s listed under the optional category in the Windows update section, where I limited them to the existing P-Cores.

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DRGNdragsYT
Senior Member
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02-22-2022, 08:36 AM
#8
The game is Persona 5 Strikers. I've shared updates about it in the past, and this was the latest post from last night.
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DRGNdragsYT
02-22-2022, 08:36 AM #8

The game is Persona 5 Strikers. I've shared updates about it in the past, and this was the latest post from last night.

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firecreeper52
Member
124
02-28-2022, 04:56 AM
#9
Check the newest BIOS updates at the official site. This process doesn’t automatically install drivers—either handle it yourself or use specialized tools for your graphics card.
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firecreeper52
02-28-2022, 04:56 AM #9

Check the newest BIOS updates at the official site. This process doesn’t automatically install drivers—either handle it yourself or use specialized tools for your graphics card.

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ItzOprayHD
Member
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02-28-2022, 06:44 AM
#10
The method involves assigning CPU affinity for the game to 2 cores, which resolves the problem. Ensure these aren't e cores involved. This seems like a common issue affecting many users—likely due to a faulty port. It appears the CPU isn't the problem.
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ItzOprayHD
02-28-2022, 06:44 AM #10

The method involves assigning CPU affinity for the game to 2 cores, which resolves the problem. Ensure these aren't e cores involved. This seems like a common issue affecting many users—likely due to a faulty port. It appears the CPU isn't the problem.

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