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Discussing the lifespan of AM4 components. Reflections on personal electronics projects.

Discussing the lifespan of AM4 components. Reflections on personal electronics projects.

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CocaCola15
Senior Member
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10-16-2022, 04:48 PM
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The 5800X3D typically lasts a long time when used for gaming and everyday tasks. You’ve been using it in various configurations over the years, starting with older CPUs and moving through different motherboards. The AM4 socket generally supports reliable performance for gaming, especially with modern GPUs like the RX 580. While newer chips are released, the 5800X3D remains a strong choice for most users. The transition from older generations to newer ones usually takes time, as seen with the CPU upgrades and motherboard changes.
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CocaCola15
10-16-2022, 04:48 PM #1

The 5800X3D typically lasts a long time when used for gaming and everyday tasks. You’ve been using it in various configurations over the years, starting with older CPUs and moving through different motherboards. The AM4 socket generally supports reliable performance for gaming, especially with modern GPUs like the RX 580. While newer chips are released, the 5800X3D remains a strong choice for most users. The transition from older generations to newer ones usually takes time, as seen with the CPU upgrades and motherboard changes.

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pixlpanda
Junior Member
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10-16-2022, 08:14 PM
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It should remain functional for several decades based on the board's production standards. Generally, a chip can operate reliably for many years without problems. The boards are often of lower quality than the chips, which might require replacement over time.
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pixlpanda
10-16-2022, 08:14 PM #2

It should remain functional for several decades based on the board's production standards. Generally, a chip can operate reliably for many years without problems. The boards are often of lower quality than the chips, which might require replacement over time.

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FusionFria
Junior Member
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10-17-2022, 03:15 AM
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Even with additional chip releases, it seems unlikely they'll surpass the performance of the 5800X3D. We lack certainty about future system needs, and requirements may shift over time. Therefore, we can't be sure of its long-term viability. Its lifespan in practical use could range from 5 to 10 years, depending on how system demands change. Regarding hardware durability, it's likely to remain functional for about 10 years or more, particularly with a premium motherboard and cooler.
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FusionFria
10-17-2022, 03:15 AM #3

Even with additional chip releases, it seems unlikely they'll surpass the performance of the 5800X3D. We lack certainty about future system needs, and requirements may shift over time. Therefore, we can't be sure of its long-term viability. Its lifespan in practical use could range from 5 to 10 years, depending on how system demands change. Regarding hardware durability, it's likely to remain functional for about 10 years or more, particularly with a premium motherboard and cooler.

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hrgriff
Senior Member
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10-23-2022, 10:01 PM
#4
AMD keeps developing chips for AM4, but the direction is stuck. Most updates are targeting lower performance options like 5800X3D. If you're investing now, switch to AM5 instead of AM4. Or hold off until fall for Ryzen 9000 or Intel 15th generation.
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hrgriff
10-23-2022, 10:01 PM #4

AMD keeps developing chips for AM4, but the direction is stuck. Most updates are targeting lower performance options like 5800X3D. If you're investing now, switch to AM5 instead of AM4. Or hold off until fall for Ryzen 9000 or Intel 15th generation.

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Bluedion
Junior Member
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10-24-2022, 06:46 AM
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Yes. They probably could if they wanted to, IIRC there's no technical reason they can't release Zen 4 on AM4 and make something like a 7750X3D, but the question is will they. The odds of that happening are basically zero. If you want to buy a new setup today, unless you're very strapped for cash and going with a low end offering like a 5500 or 5600, spend the extra money on AM5. Board pricing has come down quite a bit (its not quite at price parity, but the lower end boards are only about $20 more on AM5 than AM4), the CPUs are just faster while being slightly cheaper (the 7600(X) is on par or faster with the 5800X3D in most workloads, including a lot of games), and RAM is an extra $20 for a 2x16GB kit. Getting something like a 5700X3D only really makes sense as an in socket upgrade because of that. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJtz3y https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H9xr89 You only save $10 going 5700X3D compared to a 7600 in the US, and for that you lose an upgrade path in total. If you already own an AM4 board or can get one for dirt cheap on eBay, then the math works out a bit differently, but as it is AM4 doesn't make much sense to invest in nowadays
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Bluedion
10-24-2022, 06:46 AM #5

Yes. They probably could if they wanted to, IIRC there's no technical reason they can't release Zen 4 on AM4 and make something like a 7750X3D, but the question is will they. The odds of that happening are basically zero. If you want to buy a new setup today, unless you're very strapped for cash and going with a low end offering like a 5500 or 5600, spend the extra money on AM5. Board pricing has come down quite a bit (its not quite at price parity, but the lower end boards are only about $20 more on AM5 than AM4), the CPUs are just faster while being slightly cheaper (the 7600(X) is on par or faster with the 5800X3D in most workloads, including a lot of games), and RAM is an extra $20 for a 2x16GB kit. Getting something like a 5700X3D only really makes sense as an in socket upgrade because of that. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJtz3y https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H9xr89 You only save $10 going 5700X3D compared to a 7600 in the US, and for that you lose an upgrade path in total. If you already own an AM4 board or can get one for dirt cheap on eBay, then the math works out a bit differently, but as it is AM4 doesn't make much sense to invest in nowadays

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Kingstoreman
Junior Member
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10-24-2022, 09:17 AM
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They'd need to redesign the silicon. Just because AM5 is DDR5-only isn't the only reason.
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Kingstoreman
10-24-2022, 09:17 AM #6

They'd need to redesign the silicon. Just because AM5 is DDR5-only isn't the only reason.

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LegendCB
Junior Member
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10-31-2022, 02:58 PM
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They might simply adapt the IO die from Ryzen 3000/5000 and swap out the cores, as rumors suggested plans for the Ryzen 7000 that were later abandoned.
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LegendCB
10-31-2022, 02:58 PM #7

They might simply adapt the IO die from Ryzen 3000/5000 and swap out the cores, as rumors suggested plans for the Ryzen 7000 that were later abandoned.

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Rosario17_
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10-31-2022, 11:30 PM
#8
For gaming purposes, switching to 5700x3D instead of 5800x3D would be more cost-effective, and if you're thinking about upgrading your CPU, that's a good idea.
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Rosario17_
10-31-2022, 11:30 PM #8

For gaming purposes, switching to 5700x3D instead of 5800x3D would be more cost-effective, and if you're thinking about upgrading your CPU, that's a good idea.