F5F Stay Refreshed Power Users Networks Discussing compatibility and performance issues.

Discussing compatibility and performance issues.

Discussing compatibility and performance issues.

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09-06-2016, 11:33 PM
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I’m preparing a Nas setup again, here’s what came to mind: I’m considering the Qnap TS-963X. Can I upgrade the RAM in the Q1? Would it be straightforward, aiming for 8GB or even 16GB? My plan is to keep the SSD bay for quick data access while using the 5.25” drive as an affordable storage option for archiving and backup purposes.

I’m looking at this Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVLSCSJ/ Now, regarding the network card, I need to install a QXG-10G1T (confirming Ethernet 10Gbe or similar). I’m not sure if it’s an Ethernet 10Gbe or something else, so I’d appreciate your advice on this. Please clarify—this is common, but I’ve got 18TB of data and need at least 32TB for backups. A regular 1Gbe would be too slow.

I also have a budget in mind: the switch I’m thinking of is the cheapest 10Gbe model I found (Asus XG-2 ports, 10Gbe), which seems suitable since I already have limited LAN ports for devices like my Nintendo Switch, TV, and a couple of routers. I’m considering removing the second router and consolidating everything into one unit—maybe a compact rack.

My questions:
- Are these components compatible?
- Will the CPU and RAM bottleneck performance if I go with 10Gbe?
- Should I opt for an SFTP+ setup or is there a clear advantage to that route?
- Is it more cost-effective to use a switch with a single 10Gbe port, or should I invest in a separate switch?
- Can you share any tips for future-proofing this configuration?

Also, I attached a network layout diagram: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZMM7ZO/
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TheWheatherMan
09-06-2016, 11:33 PM #1

I’m preparing a Nas setup again, here’s what came to mind: I’m considering the Qnap TS-963X. Can I upgrade the RAM in the Q1? Would it be straightforward, aiming for 8GB or even 16GB? My plan is to keep the SSD bay for quick data access while using the 5.25” drive as an affordable storage option for archiving and backup purposes.

I’m looking at this Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVLSCSJ/ Now, regarding the network card, I need to install a QXG-10G1T (confirming Ethernet 10Gbe or similar). I’m not sure if it’s an Ethernet 10Gbe or something else, so I’d appreciate your advice on this. Please clarify—this is common, but I’ve got 18TB of data and need at least 32TB for backups. A regular 1Gbe would be too slow.

I also have a budget in mind: the switch I’m thinking of is the cheapest 10Gbe model I found (Asus XG-2 ports, 10Gbe), which seems suitable since I already have limited LAN ports for devices like my Nintendo Switch, TV, and a couple of routers. I’m considering removing the second router and consolidating everything into one unit—maybe a compact rack.

My questions:
- Are these components compatible?
- Will the CPU and RAM bottleneck performance if I go with 10Gbe?
- Should I opt for an SFTP+ setup or is there a clear advantage to that route?
- Is it more cost-effective to use a switch with a single 10Gbe port, or should I invest in a separate switch?
- Can you share any tips for future-proofing this configuration?

Also, I attached a network layout diagram: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LZMM7ZO/

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Just_Ricardo
Member
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09-07-2016, 05:14 AM
#2
What’s your current network setup? You likely don’t need a switch—just install a 10GbE RJ45 card and connect directly to the NAS. The NAS might not reach full 10G speeds, but it will be quicker than gigabit connections. My estimate is around 300-400Mb/s, depending on how you use it. The main benefits of switching to SFTP+ are easier upgrades; those coaxial cables handle higher speeds, power demands are high for 10G over RJ45, and distance is limited (about 100m on Cat 6a, or up to 100km via fiber). Fiber usually costs similar to or less than copper for big installations. Also, SFTP+ is Ethernet-based.
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Just_Ricardo
09-07-2016, 05:14 AM #2

What’s your current network setup? You likely don’t need a switch—just install a 10GbE RJ45 card and connect directly to the NAS. The NAS might not reach full 10G speeds, but it will be quicker than gigabit connections. My estimate is around 300-400Mb/s, depending on how you use it. The main benefits of switching to SFTP+ are easier upgrades; those coaxial cables handle higher speeds, power demands are high for 10G over RJ45, and distance is limited (about 100m on Cat 6a, or up to 100km via fiber). Fiber usually costs similar to or less than copper for big installations. Also, SFTP+ is Ethernet-based.

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R_Jayy_Kae
Member
84
09-07-2016, 05:38 AM
#3
What is your spending limit for this upgrade? You might consider the Cisco Nexus 3048TP on eBay, priced around $200—it features four 10GbE SFP+ ports and forty-eight 1GbE ports. It's built for enterprise use and comes with full management support, though you likely won't require those features.
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R_Jayy_Kae
09-07-2016, 05:38 AM #3

What is your spending limit for this upgrade? You might consider the Cisco Nexus 3048TP on eBay, priced around $200—it features four 10GbE SFP+ ports and forty-eight 1GbE ports. It's built for enterprise use and comes with full management support, though you likely won't require those features.

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Naruto1813
Junior Member
15
09-07-2016, 06:43 AM
#4
I’m considering downloading the Google WiFi pack3 or similar to address poor reception in the living room. Since other computers are laptops, Wi-Fi should be strong enough for streaming movies and TV shows. I also need solid Wi-Fi in my room for smart devices like the LIFX lights, and a layout plan (1).pdf is required.
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Naruto1813
09-07-2016, 06:43 AM #4

I’m considering downloading the Google WiFi pack3 or similar to address poor reception in the living room. Since other computers are laptops, Wi-Fi should be strong enough for streaming movies and TV shows. I also need solid Wi-Fi in my room for smart devices like the LIFX lights, and a layout plan (1).pdf is required.

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Sane_Samurai
Member
62
09-11-2016, 10:40 PM
#5
I'm working to keep everything under $900. I need to get SSDs and hard drives, plus a NAS for $130. A PCIe 10G card costs $90, and I've budgeted $850 so far.
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Sane_Samurai
09-11-2016, 10:40 PM #5

I'm working to keep everything under $900. I need to get SSDs and hard drives, plus a NAS for $130. A PCIe 10G card costs $90, and I've budgeted $850 so far.

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bonbons_2003
Junior Member
49
10-01-2016, 05:22 PM
#6
Choose a standard switch instead of a high-speed one. Provide a direct connection for your desktop. The NAS devices each come with two network cables.
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bonbons_2003
10-01-2016, 05:22 PM #6

Choose a standard switch instead of a high-speed one. Provide a direct connection for your desktop. The NAS devices each come with two network cables.

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Altijd_Scoepi
Member
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10-01-2016, 07:00 PM
#7
You must set up the device properly, otherwise you’ll need to reset it from scratch. If it doesn’t include a configuration file, you’ll have to recover the password and erase everything before starting again. This can be frustrating for beginners unfamiliar with NX-OS or enterprise CLI tools—it’s likely to waste time and cause frustration. Most enterprise equipment like these boxes is quite noisy, so it isn’t ideal for quiet environments or remote locations. The suggested switch isn’t necessary unless you’re comfortable with Cisco CLI; otherwise, you’ll likely spend more time figuring things out than actually connecting. I recommend what @Electronics Wizardy advised: connect the boxes directly and use 1GbE for other network needs instead of relying on the suggested setup.
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Altijd_Scoepi
10-01-2016, 07:00 PM #7

You must set up the device properly, otherwise you’ll need to reset it from scratch. If it doesn’t include a configuration file, you’ll have to recover the password and erase everything before starting again. This can be frustrating for beginners unfamiliar with NX-OS or enterprise CLI tools—it’s likely to waste time and cause frustration. Most enterprise equipment like these boxes is quite noisy, so it isn’t ideal for quiet environments or remote locations. The suggested switch isn’t necessary unless you’re comfortable with Cisco CLI; otherwise, you’ll likely spend more time figuring things out than actually connecting. I recommend what @Electronics Wizardy advised: connect the boxes directly and use 1GbE for other network needs instead of relying on the suggested setup.

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SnazzyMeow
Junior Member
45
10-03-2016, 07:41 PM
#8
lack of Ethernet in the room already affects me, I’m down by one. You’re suggesting a regular switch? Got it. Regarding internet, you can connect via NAS to your PC or use normal gigabit—10GbE is better for accessing files. The biggest concern is my Asus Maximus X Hero i7 8700K. With all the components I have (16 PCIe slots, 8x NVMe SSDs, 4x USB drives, SATA drives), adding a PCIe card might reduce bandwidth on those connections. You mentioned thinking about an X299 for work and more PCIe slots, but I’d prefer to focus first on stability before upgrading.
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SnazzyMeow
10-03-2016, 07:41 PM #8

lack of Ethernet in the room already affects me, I’m down by one. You’re suggesting a regular switch? Got it. Regarding internet, you can connect via NAS to your PC or use normal gigabit—10GbE is better for accessing files. The biggest concern is my Asus Maximus X Hero i7 8700K. With all the components I have (16 PCIe slots, 8x NVMe SSDs, 4x USB drives, SATA drives), adding a PCIe card might reduce bandwidth on those connections. You mentioned thinking about an X299 for work and more PCIe slots, but I’d prefer to focus first on stability before upgrading.

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Neko_Kitty33
Junior Member
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10-11-2016, 07:13 AM
#9
Set up a gigabit switch where one port connects to your PC and another to the rest of the network. You have 16 lanes from the CPU, plus roughly 24 from the chipset. That breaks down as 16 for the 1080Ti, 4 from the chipset for M.2, 4 more from the chipset (depending on the slot) for 10GbE, and the remaining chipset lanes for USB and SATA.
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Neko_Kitty33
10-11-2016, 07:13 AM #9

Set up a gigabit switch where one port connects to your PC and another to the rest of the network. You have 16 lanes from the CPU, plus roughly 24 from the chipset. That breaks down as 16 for the 1080Ti, 4 from the chipset for M.2, 4 more from the chipset (depending on the slot) for 10GbE, and the remaining chipset lanes for USB and SATA.

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xXTooXiiKxX
Junior Member
45
10-28-2016, 03:51 AM
#10
But afterward the rest of the network can use the NAS at just 1 gigabit speed, which should be sufficient for family movies, streaming, and copying files. For example, two laptops and a smart TV would work fine. (1080p) Plugging the PC directly into the NAS is okay. Regarding internet access, switching between 1GbE and 10GbE on your PC would likely be smooth, depending on your setup.
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xXTooXiiKxX
10-28-2016, 03:51 AM #10

But afterward the rest of the network can use the NAS at just 1 gigabit speed, which should be sufficient for family movies, streaming, and copying files. For example, two laptops and a smart TV would work fine. (1080p) Plugging the PC directly into the NAS is okay. Regarding internet access, switching between 1GbE and 10GbE on your PC would likely be smooth, depending on your setup.

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