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Discussing AX WiFi Streaming issues

Discussing AX WiFi Streaming issues

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ToxicSpill
Junior Member
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12-27-2023, 05:19 AM
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He ordered the Netgear RAX 200 to boost streaming of 4K content across several TVs. If both he and you attempt 4K video streaming to your LG OLED TVs via Wi-Fi (while Brother or grandma use Wi-Fi for other activities), you often experience delays or interruptions because of network issues. The new AX routers offer multiple "streams" that help connect many devices simultaneously by sending distinct data signals to and from each device on separate streams. It also includes a dual 5GHz band, which they say provides two independent data transfers in the 5GHz range to ensure optimal WiFi performance for high-bandwidth tasks like Ultra HD video streaming. https://www.netgear.com/home/products/ne...AX200.aspx Your concerns: Will this feature apply to your 802.11 AC Wi-Fi devices, like your TVs? Or is it only for the newer 802.11 AX routers that aren’t widely available now? Even if your ISP isn’t limiting you, will performance noticeably improve? Your existing Linksys EA6900 router is still in use.
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ToxicSpill
12-27-2023, 05:19 AM #1

He ordered the Netgear RAX 200 to boost streaming of 4K content across several TVs. If both he and you attempt 4K video streaming to your LG OLED TVs via Wi-Fi (while Brother or grandma use Wi-Fi for other activities), you often experience delays or interruptions because of network issues. The new AX routers offer multiple "streams" that help connect many devices simultaneously by sending distinct data signals to and from each device on separate streams. It also includes a dual 5GHz band, which they say provides two independent data transfers in the 5GHz range to ensure optimal WiFi performance for high-bandwidth tasks like Ultra HD video streaming. https://www.netgear.com/home/products/ne...AX200.aspx Your concerns: Will this feature apply to your 802.11 AC Wi-Fi devices, like your TVs? Or is it only for the newer 802.11 AX routers that aren’t widely available now? Even if your ISP isn’t limiting you, will performance noticeably improve? Your existing Linksys EA6900 router is still in use.

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OxygenSlayer
Junior Member
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12-30-2023, 11:20 PM
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When discussing streams, the RAX supports handling four devices at once with 2x2 configurations if the clients enable MU-MIMO. This provides a distinct 5GHz network compared to your existing router. Gaining access to another separate 5GHz band would indeed boost performance beyond what your current setup offers. Where does your 4K content originate from? Which transmission medium is your ISP using (fiber, copper; cable, DSL)? What speed are you billed for? How fast do you currently test with a wired connection? And how quickly does it perform on a wireless device? Try Speedtest.net within the same ISP network if possible. For example, if you use Verizon Wireless, connect to their nearest speedtest server. I own a Nighthawk R8000, a tri-band AC router configured with dd. I have one hardwired device among 12 total connections, but only two or three support 4K at 40-50Mbps through my Plex server—even though the router lacks MIMO support. My main goal is to better understand your network layout and any configuration challenges or hardware limitations that might prevent you from reaching your desired performance.
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OxygenSlayer
12-30-2023, 11:20 PM #2

When discussing streams, the RAX supports handling four devices at once with 2x2 configurations if the clients enable MU-MIMO. This provides a distinct 5GHz network compared to your existing router. Gaining access to another separate 5GHz band would indeed boost performance beyond what your current setup offers. Where does your 4K content originate from? Which transmission medium is your ISP using (fiber, copper; cable, DSL)? What speed are you billed for? How fast do you currently test with a wired connection? And how quickly does it perform on a wireless device? Try Speedtest.net within the same ISP network if possible. For example, if you use Verizon Wireless, connect to their nearest speedtest server. I own a Nighthawk R8000, a tri-band AC router configured with dd. I have one hardwired device among 12 total connections, but only two or three support 4K at 40-50Mbps through my Plex server—even though the router lacks MIMO support. My main goal is to better understand your network layout and any configuration challenges or hardware limitations that might prevent you from reaching your desired performance.

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thatkidvincee
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12-31-2023, 02:51 AM
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Only compatible with Wi-Fi 6 gadgets. Plus, it won’t function unless every device is also Wi-Fi 6. Expect noticeable changes in about 5 to 7 years.
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thatkidvincee
12-31-2023, 02:51 AM #3

Only compatible with Wi-Fi 6 gadgets. Plus, it won’t function unless every device is also Wi-Fi 6. Expect noticeable changes in about 5 to 7 years.

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Lightingmin
Junior Member
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01-01-2024, 02:25 PM
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Thank you for your response! You mentioned the 4 devices at 2x2 if it relates to the capacity details on the site, but I think there might be a mistake—they claim 12 streams, though I’m not sure what that refers to. Also, near the middle of the page you noted something about an X12 Wi-Fi 6 router supporting eight 5 GHz and four 2.4 GHz connections. Could you clarify where your 4K content is coming from? Is it via Wi-Fi to an OLED55B8PUA device? The speed you’re paying for seems around 100 Mbps, though I’m not sure. I’ll check when I get home and let you know. Your current speeds are about 10-12 MB/s on a wired connection, and roughly 8-9 MB/s on wireless. Let me know later tonight!
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Lightingmin
01-01-2024, 02:25 PM #4

Thank you for your response! You mentioned the 4 devices at 2x2 if it relates to the capacity details on the site, but I think there might be a mistake—they claim 12 streams, though I’m not sure what that refers to. Also, near the middle of the page you noted something about an X12 Wi-Fi 6 router supporting eight 5 GHz and four 2.4 GHz connections. Could you clarify where your 4K content is coming from? Is it via Wi-Fi to an OLED55B8PUA device? The speed you’re paying for seems around 100 Mbps, though I’m not sure. I’ll check when I get home and let you know. Your current speeds are about 10-12 MB/s on a wired connection, and roughly 8-9 MB/s on wireless. Let me know later tonight!

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RAISE2000
Junior Member
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01-01-2024, 03:33 PM
#5
That statement is really surprising! The 4K Blu-ray player we purchased a couple of years ago was costly and relied on 802.11n technology. Many homes will likely continue using outdated Wi-Fi standards for a long time.
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RAISE2000
01-01-2024, 03:33 PM #5

That statement is really surprising! The 4K Blu-ray player we purchased a couple of years ago was costly and relied on 802.11n technology. Many homes will likely continue using outdated Wi-Fi standards for a long time.

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Blacklisted_
Junior Member
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01-15-2024, 01:59 AM
#6
Yep, which sucks. Hue lights, my Google homes, TVs... All stuff not compatible that I won't replace for a long time. People don't realize that yet and should really hold off on Wifi 6 routers until they are actually useful.
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Blacklisted_
01-15-2024, 01:59 AM #6

Yep, which sucks. Hue lights, my Google homes, TVs... All stuff not compatible that I won't replace for a long time. People don't realize that yet and should really hold off on Wifi 6 routers until they are actually useful.

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JacobLouis30
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01-16-2024, 10:07 PM
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They were still proceeding regardless. I also wondered if Hue lights operate without WiFi. The statement from George Yianni, tech lead at Phillips, suggests that even with Wi-Fi support, the data requirements for Hue are minimal, making Wi-Fi 6 largely unnecessary for Philips Hue. They’re curious about how many low-end routers with many IoT devices would impact performance compared to Wi-Fi 6, but this isn’t directly related to Hue.
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JacobLouis30
01-16-2024, 10:07 PM #7

They were still proceeding regardless. I also wondered if Hue lights operate without WiFi. The statement from George Yianni, tech lead at Phillips, suggests that even with Wi-Fi support, the data requirements for Hue are minimal, making Wi-Fi 6 largely unnecessary for Philips Hue. They’re curious about how many low-end routers with many IoT devices would impact performance compared to Wi-Fi 6, but this isn’t directly related to Hue.

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Alan4041
Member
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01-16-2024, 11:50 PM
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Netgear describes streams in terms of concurrent connections it handles, meaning this router supports 12 simultaneous streams across four bands. Contemporary AC equipment typically employs a 2x2 antenna array to boost performance, reaching up to 866Mbps with a 2x2 setup, 1299Mbps with a 3x3 configuration, and approximately 1300Mbps overall. When multiple devices connect—such as 2 units per band across 5GHz and sub-bands—and each uses a 2x2 antenna supporting MU-MIMO, all six can communicate with the router at once without delays. If your devices lack MIMO capability, you’ll need to switch to single-device transmission per band.
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Alan4041
01-16-2024, 11:50 PM #8

Netgear describes streams in terms of concurrent connections it handles, meaning this router supports 12 simultaneous streams across four bands. Contemporary AC equipment typically employs a 2x2 antenna array to boost performance, reaching up to 866Mbps with a 2x2 setup, 1299Mbps with a 3x3 configuration, and approximately 1300Mbps overall. When multiple devices connect—such as 2 units per band across 5GHz and sub-bands—and each uses a 2x2 antenna supporting MU-MIMO, all six can communicate with the router at once without delays. If your devices lack MIMO capability, you’ll need to switch to single-device transmission per band.

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Shyrell
Member
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01-22-2024, 09:35 PM
#9
How many 4K streams can you handle simultaneously? Since Netflix requires 25 Mbps per stream, you may be nearing your bandwidth limits.
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Shyrell
01-22-2024, 09:35 PM #9

How many 4K streams can you handle simultaneously? Since Netflix requires 25 Mbps per stream, you may be nearing your bandwidth limits.

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whymedudeman
Member
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01-22-2024, 10:47 PM
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Typically two 4K streams are running, though occasionally others in the home use bandwidth for cell phones or for my brother’s Twitch stream.
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whymedudeman
01-22-2024, 10:47 PM #10

Typically two 4K streams are running, though occasionally others in the home use bandwidth for cell phones or for my brother’s Twitch stream.

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