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Discussing Alder Lake CPU binning

Discussing Alder Lake CPU binning

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legominer7
Junior Member
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03-06-2021, 02:02 PM
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All Alder Lake CPUs aren't identical in meaning. The differences between models like 12900K and 12700K stem from manufacturing decisions, not just physical components. The 12700K had four cores disabled due to fabrication issues, but those cores are still present physically. Similarly, the KF series likely reflects iGPU removal rather than just performance changes, which could affect overclocking potential. The K series generally offers better overclocking capabilities compared to the Ryzen 5000 line.
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legominer7
03-06-2021, 02:02 PM #1

All Alder Lake CPUs aren't identical in meaning. The differences between models like 12900K and 12700K stem from manufacturing decisions, not just physical components. The 12700K had four cores disabled due to fabrication issues, but those cores are still present physically. Similarly, the KF series likely reflects iGPU removal rather than just performance changes, which could affect overclocking potential. The K series generally offers better overclocking capabilities compared to the Ryzen 5000 line.

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DakaanyGamer_
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03-06-2021, 02:18 PM
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Usually several variations of chips exist, but production numbers don’t match the release count. For example, two chips with similar names might share a design with some components removed, while another model could be a compact version that fits more chips on one wafer. Certain features like extra cores or cache that aren’t present in lower models are often omitted, so those parts remain separate from the main CPU. This happens either because they failed testing or because companies prioritize selling more affordable versions due to higher demand. This approach has been common among major PC manufacturers for years. From what I understand, Intel, AMD, Nvidia and ATI (before AMD’s acquisition) have used this kind of product grouping since at least the early days of quad-core processors, possibly even earlier.
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DakaanyGamer_
03-06-2021, 02:18 PM #2

Usually several variations of chips exist, but production numbers don’t match the release count. For example, two chips with similar names might share a design with some components removed, while another model could be a compact version that fits more chips on one wafer. Certain features like extra cores or cache that aren’t present in lower models are often omitted, so those parts remain separate from the main CPU. This happens either because they failed testing or because companies prioritize selling more affordable versions due to higher demand. This approach has been common among major PC manufacturers for years. From what I understand, Intel, AMD, Nvidia and ATI (before AMD’s acquisition) have used this kind of product grouping since at least the early days of quad-core processors, possibly even earlier.

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JotbotPlayz
Junior Member
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03-06-2021, 09:49 PM
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Thanks for your question. I'm not sure about the specific details of the Alder Lake case you mentioned. Regarding the 12700K, it's unclear whether parts are fused or disabled to improve overclocking performance. As for the K vs KF comparison, it seems the iGPU might be disabled on the KF version rather than being fully fused off. If the iGPU is disabled, it could potentially reduce power consumption and help with overclocking when paired with a discrete GPU.
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JotbotPlayz
03-06-2021, 09:49 PM #3

Thanks for your question. I'm not sure about the specific details of the Alder Lake case you mentioned. Regarding the 12700K, it's unclear whether parts are fused or disabled to improve overclocking performance. As for the K vs KF comparison, it seems the iGPU might be disabled on the KF version rather than being fully fused off. If the iGPU is disabled, it could potentially reduce power consumption and help with overclocking when paired with a discrete GPU.

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ReborntoKill
Posting Freak
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03-23-2021, 11:58 PM
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Until we find someone to purchase them all and destroy them, this remains just an assumption. However, it seems likely that faulty or unvalidated components will be disabled and reclassified into a lower SKU. This change usually occurs later in the production cycle when processes become more refined, forcing manufacturers to reduce high-end chips to lower-end ones to match demand. I’m not sure if this has happened recently due to market pressures like supply and demand. Lower-tier parts often run at higher overclocking levels because their base specifications start lower. Premium parts tend to stay near their maximum limits. For example, the i5-10600K turbo can reach 4.6GHz and usually stops around 5-5.1GHz all-core, while the i9-10900K turbo hits about 4.9GHz (within TVB) and stays near 5.1-5.2GHz all-core. The i5 boosted by 400-500MHz, whereas the i9 increased by 200-300MHz. Because their top speeds are constrained by shared manufacturing processes and design, chips from the same generation generally share similar overclocking capabilities.
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ReborntoKill
03-23-2021, 11:58 PM #4

Until we find someone to purchase them all and destroy them, this remains just an assumption. However, it seems likely that faulty or unvalidated components will be disabled and reclassified into a lower SKU. This change usually occurs later in the production cycle when processes become more refined, forcing manufacturers to reduce high-end chips to lower-end ones to match demand. I’m not sure if this has happened recently due to market pressures like supply and demand. Lower-tier parts often run at higher overclocking levels because their base specifications start lower. Premium parts tend to stay near their maximum limits. For example, the i5-10600K turbo can reach 4.6GHz and usually stops around 5-5.1GHz all-core, while the i9-10900K turbo hits about 4.9GHz (within TVB) and stays near 5.1-5.2GHz all-core. The i5 boosted by 400-500MHz, whereas the i9 increased by 200-300MHz. Because their top speeds are constrained by shared manufacturing processes and design, chips from the same generation generally share similar overclocking capabilities.