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DirectX 12 Is A Misconception? Possibly True.

DirectX 12 Is A Misconception? Possibly True.

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1Ry01
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11-15-2016, 09:21 PM
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We've been misled about our CPU's before, often assuming just one core. This YouTuber explains the topic in a fascinating way—check out the link after the video: http://nichegamer.com/2015/03/brad-warde...rts-games/
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1Ry01
11-15-2016, 09:21 PM #1

We've been misled about our CPU's before, often assuming just one core. This YouTuber explains the topic in a fascinating way—check out the link after the video: http://nichegamer.com/2015/03/brad-warde...rts-games/

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AoichiShisho
Junior Member
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11-16-2016, 05:26 AM
#2
I don't really feel this way. It would suggest tools meant for tracking CPU usage would also be dishonest. Tools that have no interest in gaming. I understand some games run on just one core because the developers are sloppy. There are also games that are very intricate yet perform smoothly like BF4 since the devs aren't lazy. The difference won't be as big as 8 to 60 frames per second.
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AoichiShisho
11-16-2016, 05:26 AM #2

I don't really feel this way. It would suggest tools meant for tracking CPU usage would also be dishonest. Tools that have no interest in gaming. I understand some games run on just one core because the developers are sloppy. There are also games that are very intricate yet perform smoothly like BF4 since the devs aren't lazy. The difference won't be as big as 8 to 60 frames per second.

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101arrowz
Junior Member
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11-18-2016, 09:54 PM
#3
We've been misled about how DirectX 11 utilizes CPU cores for gaming. It's widely believed that exceeding four cores offers minimal gain, focusing instead on IPC per core as the key metric. The newer features in DX 12 and Mantle are praised for their CPU handling, though most titles don't rely heavily on more than two cores anymore.
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101arrowz
11-18-2016, 09:54 PM #3

We've been misled about how DirectX 11 utilizes CPU cores for gaming. It's widely believed that exceeding four cores offers minimal gain, focusing instead on IPC per core as the key metric. The newer features in DX 12 and Mantle are praised for their CPU handling, though most titles don't rely heavily on more than two cores anymore.

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ChaTheBeast87
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11-20-2016, 05:25 AM
#4
Developing a game that efficiently utilizes DX11 and distributes tasks across multiple cores remains quite challenging. Achieving optimal performance with simple, reliable solutions is the preferred approach for developers, as it relies on proven methods. Investing long hours in troubleshooting isn’t worth it when you can focus on refining what you already understand. DX12 aims to simplify this process while minimizing disruption to rendering workflows compared to earlier versions. We’re eager to witness games adopt native DX12 support and explore the potential performance improvements across different hardware setups.
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ChaTheBeast87
11-20-2016, 05:25 AM #4

Developing a game that efficiently utilizes DX11 and distributes tasks across multiple cores remains quite challenging. Achieving optimal performance with simple, reliable solutions is the preferred approach for developers, as it relies on proven methods. Investing long hours in troubleshooting isn’t worth it when you can focus on refining what you already understand. DX12 aims to simplify this process while minimizing disruption to rendering workflows compared to earlier versions. We’re eager to witness games adopt native DX12 support and explore the potential performance improvements across different hardware setups.

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LunaDoll
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11-20-2016, 06:34 AM
#5
I didn’t mean it was simple, but businesses still find ways to succeed. If you run a large company, there’s nothing stopping you from building a multithreaded project instead of just focusing on quick profits.
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LunaDoll
11-20-2016, 06:34 AM #5

I didn’t mean it was simple, but businesses still find ways to succeed. If you run a large company, there’s nothing stopping you from building a multithreaded project instead of just focusing on quick profits.

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Bguy4360
Junior Member
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11-21-2016, 11:32 PM
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He focuses on CPU communicating with GPU that has just one core. This isn't the sole activity in the game, so we can't rely on core load to identify it.
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Bguy4360
11-21-2016, 11:32 PM #6

He focuses on CPU communicating with GPU that has just one core. This isn't the sole activity in the game, so we can't rely on core load to identify it.

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Charlie_1898
Junior Member
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11-27-2016, 04:11 AM
#7
A significant amount of work is reduced once the game's engine is built for DirectX. Once that stage is passed, companies can dive into more complex development areas, though they often end up altering many lines of code—something they should avoid unless they’re prepared to spend weeks fixing issues. Battlefield performs smoothly on multi-core systems because the Frostbite engine was designed with that in mind. I appreciate UE4 for beginning to support DX12 from its foundation, which helps developers deliver products more efficiently.
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Charlie_1898
11-27-2016, 04:11 AM #7

A significant amount of work is reduced once the game's engine is built for DirectX. Once that stage is passed, companies can dive into more complex development areas, though they often end up altering many lines of code—something they should avoid unless they’re prepared to spend weeks fixing issues. Battlefield performs smoothly on multi-core systems because the Frostbite engine was designed with that in mind. I appreciate UE4 for beginning to support DX12 from its foundation, which helps developers deliver products more efficiently.

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SugarKoala
Junior Member
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11-27-2016, 07:51 PM
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If you're worried about DX11's weak multi-core handling, you don't have to worry much about what people say. It doesn't offer strong performance across multiple cores, and the available software is quite limited—mostly focused on graphics, not much else. Yes, there are improvements that can boost performance by up to ten times in certain areas like draw calls. Try to avoid getting tired of hearing those terms after reading the Futuremark 12 reviews.
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SugarKoala
11-27-2016, 07:51 PM #8

If you're worried about DX11's weak multi-core handling, you don't have to worry much about what people say. It doesn't offer strong performance across multiple cores, and the available software is quite limited—mostly focused on graphics, not much else. Yes, there are improvements that can boost performance by up to ten times in certain areas like draw calls. Try to avoid getting tired of hearing those terms after reading the Futuremark 12 reviews.

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Diabolomeister
Junior Member
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12-16-2016, 10:05 PM
#9
DX 12 represents a positive advancement. Appreciate AMD and the team behind it for challenging Microsoft and driving progress in Direct3D.
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Diabolomeister
12-16-2016, 10:05 PM #9

DX 12 represents a positive advancement. Appreciate AMD and the team behind it for challenging Microsoft and driving progress in Direct3D.

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Toddybad
Junior Member
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12-18-2016, 04:29 PM
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That would just be the draw calls themselves. There’s no doubt about that. We’re all aware that draw calls are extremely limited in dx11. It’s around 15,000 compared to roughly 150,000 on consoles. This doesn’t mean some games won’t function properly, since it’s clear many do.
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Toddybad
12-18-2016, 04:29 PM #10

That would just be the draw calls themselves. There’s no doubt about that. We’re all aware that draw calls are extremely limited in dx11. It’s around 15,000 compared to roughly 150,000 on consoles. This doesn’t mean some games won’t function properly, since it’s clear many do.

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