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Did your analysis miss Corsair's success compared to Swiftech?

Did your analysis miss Corsair's success compared to Swiftech?

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yolosolohi48
Member
167
05-18-2016, 10:00 AM
#1
Hey everyone,
My friend and I developed a system together.
He used an i7 5820k with Corsair H105, pull/exhaust setup.
I chose a 5930k with Swiftech H-240x, also pull/exhaust.
He's clocking 4.7ghz @ 30c, while I'm at 4.4ghz @ 33c.
What's going on? Did I make a mistake? Am I overheating more than expected because of the chipset? Should I consider adding another fan for partial push/pull (Swiftech only supports three fans)?
Thanks.
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yolosolohi48
05-18-2016, 10:00 AM #1

Hey everyone,
My friend and I developed a system together.
He used an i7 5820k with Corsair H105, pull/exhaust setup.
I chose a 5930k with Swiftech H-240x, also pull/exhaust.
He's clocking 4.7ghz @ 30c, while I'm at 4.4ghz @ 33c.
What's going on? Did I make a mistake? Am I overheating more than expected because of the chipset? Should I consider adding another fan for partial push/pull (Swiftech only supports three fans)?
Thanks.

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Bovarist
Junior Member
14
05-18-2016, 12:28 PM
#2
Did you experience a crash, or was the system shutdown due to Occt?
Usually, the shutdown temperature is around 85°C.
It's typical for cores to reach varying temperatures.
If the CPU failed, such as showing a blue screen, then your Oc parameters might not have functioned correctly.
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Bovarist
05-18-2016, 12:28 PM #2

Did you experience a crash, or was the system shutdown due to Occt?
Usually, the shutdown temperature is around 85°C.
It's typical for cores to reach varying temperatures.
If the CPU failed, such as showing a blue screen, then your Oc parameters might not have functioned correctly.

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Waddos
Member
157
05-19-2016, 12:06 PM
#3
Your temperature is normal, I don't need to worry about the 3C variation in another build. Other elements such as thermal paste, core voltage, and surrounding temperatures also play a role.
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Waddos
05-19-2016, 12:06 PM #3

Your temperature is normal, I don't need to worry about the 3C variation in another build. Other elements such as thermal paste, core voltage, and surrounding temperatures also play a role.

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spike_98
Member
75
05-19-2016, 08:09 PM
#4
How are the load temperatures? Idle temperatures don't tell much.
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spike_98
05-19-2016, 08:09 PM #4

How are the load temperatures? Idle temperatures don't tell much.

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169
05-21-2016, 08:22 PM
#5
Finding idle is tricky; he might start with fewer apps running than you do.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Swif...0-X/6.html
The Swiftech and H105 perform well when overclocked, but at normal settings the Swiftech often leads.
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josbakmeel2000
05-21-2016, 08:22 PM #5

Finding idle is tricky; he might start with fewer apps running than you do.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Swif...0-X/6.html
The Swiftech and H105 perform well when overclocked, but at normal settings the Swiftech often leads.

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Gammarey
Junior Member
49
05-29-2016, 03:05 PM
#6
haven't performed any stress testing yet (not sure what to use TBH).
i'm just weighing whether to keep or return the swift tech. the open loop isn't something i'm particularly interested in; though it seems everyone was recommending it as the better option compared to Corsair and NZXT.
i'm puzzled about how he's running more OC'd and cooler. i attempted to push mine up to 4.7 and the system shut down... uhm? honestly, i'm not sure what I'm doing. i'm depending on the Asus auto tuning and then just increasing the clock speed. i think this might be incorrect. he did the same, ran the auto-tuning and it reached 4.7; whereas mine went to 4.5. odd.
i have a single 200mm intake, a 120mm exhaust and dual 140mm exhausts on the rad. i could add another 140mm intake and swap the 200mm intake for dual 140's. is it worth making any of those changes?
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Gammarey
05-29-2016, 03:05 PM #6

haven't performed any stress testing yet (not sure what to use TBH).
i'm just weighing whether to keep or return the swift tech. the open loop isn't something i'm particularly interested in; though it seems everyone was recommending it as the better option compared to Corsair and NZXT.
i'm puzzled about how he's running more OC'd and cooler. i attempted to push mine up to 4.7 and the system shut down... uhm? honestly, i'm not sure what I'm doing. i'm depending on the Asus auto tuning and then just increasing the clock speed. i think this might be incorrect. he did the same, ran the auto-tuning and it reached 4.7; whereas mine went to 4.5. odd.
i have a single 200mm intake, a 120mm exhaust and dual 140mm exhausts on the rad. i could add another 140mm intake and swap the 200mm intake for dual 140's. is it worth making any of those changes?

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Mikcool
Member
96
06-01-2016, 10:00 PM
#7
Don't auto tune at high clocks, that's your initial error.
Autotune will push the system as much as it can, but the outcomes won't be uniform. Various chips demand different amounts of power to hit specific clock speeds. Some may need 4.7 at 1.25v while others require 1.30 or higher. Autotune doesn't know if a chip needs more or less power. It only sets the voltage based on its assumptions.
It's not as problematic as it seems. Asus has extensively experimented with overclocking and applied statistical methods to create boards that function optimally at each clock speed. This approach doesn't guarantee top speeds, but anything above 4.5 is a good chance. 4.7 is achievable on many chips, though some will need significantly more voltage.
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Mikcool
06-01-2016, 10:00 PM #7

Don't auto tune at high clocks, that's your initial error.
Autotune will push the system as much as it can, but the outcomes won't be uniform. Various chips demand different amounts of power to hit specific clock speeds. Some may need 4.7 at 1.25v while others require 1.30 or higher. Autotune doesn't know if a chip needs more or less power. It only sets the voltage based on its assumptions.
It's not as problematic as it seems. Asus has extensively experimented with overclocking and applied statistical methods to create boards that function optimally at each clock speed. This approach doesn't guarantee top speeds, but anything above 4.5 is a good chance. 4.7 is achievable on many chips, though some will need significantly more voltage.

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koolman788
Junior Member
42
06-08-2016, 01:38 AM
#8
Are those idle temperatures normal? What are the stress test temperatures with occt? Do you both use the same case? Cooling mainly depends on how much clean air you can intake. By the way, I think your friend got a golden chip if he achieves 4.7; only around 11% can reach that. I don’t have any data for the 5930k.
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koolman788
06-08-2016, 01:38 AM #8

Are those idle temperatures normal? What are the stress test temperatures with occt? Do you both use the same case? Cooling mainly depends on how much clean air you can intake. By the way, I think your friend got a golden chip if he achieves 4.7; only around 11% can reach that. I don’t have any data for the 5930k.

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Darkfrost_64
Member
73
06-08-2016, 03:15 AM
#9
We both started from scratch and are learning online, which isn't always simple. It's strange I upgraded to version 4.4 while he went to 4.7, and my chip seems a bit better now.
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Darkfrost_64
06-08-2016, 03:15 AM #9

We both started from scratch and are learning online, which isn't always simple. It's strange I upgraded to version 4.4 while he went to 4.7, and my chip seems a bit better now.

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Llyodsk
Member
164
06-09-2016, 10:54 PM
#10
Idle times indicate whether your cooler is installed correctly. Temperatures above 10-15°C from ambient are normal.
You're doing well.
The single 200mm fan for intake is preferred—it delivers strong airflow at lower speeds and operates more quietly.
For stress testing, I prefer OCCT. It follows more typical everyday commands and stops the test at 85°C. At 100°C, the CPU will slow down or shut down to prevent heat-related damage. Don’t worry about that.
While testing, focus on monitoring vcore. It should stay below 1.35v for safe continuous use.
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Llyodsk
06-09-2016, 10:54 PM #10

Idle times indicate whether your cooler is installed correctly. Temperatures above 10-15°C from ambient are normal.
You're doing well.
The single 200mm fan for intake is preferred—it delivers strong airflow at lower speeds and operates more quietly.
For stress testing, I prefer OCCT. It follows more typical everyday commands and stops the test at 85°C. At 100°C, the CPU will slow down or shut down to prevent heat-related damage. Don’t worry about that.
While testing, focus on monitoring vcore. It should stay below 1.35v for safe continuous use.

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