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Device cannot decode 10-bit 4K 4:2:2 HEVC format

Device cannot decode 10-bit 4K 4:2:2 HEVC format

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gafor123
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05-27-2016, 03:39 PM
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Hello, I figured this would be the place to ask. My issue is that my computer has serious issues with playing / decoding 10-bit 4K 4:2:2 HEVC video files, I can tell it's also struggling a little with 1080i files if I try and edit it in Premiere, but it can't even play 2160p in a media player. I have tried all sorts of codecs and media players, however none of them can get the job done, which is why I think it's a hardware issue. My PC doesn't have any issues playing 4K ProRes at around 6-700mbps, so it shouldn't be a hard drive issue either. My setup: CPU: i7-6700 @ 3.40 GHz Motherboard: ASUS B150M-PLUS RAM: 32GB DDR4 (dual) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070 MSI 8GB GDDR5 I suspect that the CPU is too old, but I'd still love to get a second opinion before I upgrade my setup. Thanks in advance. Here is media info for files I have issues with with 2 different types of color primaries and chrome subsampling: 1) Format : MPEG-TS File size : 87.2 GiB Duration : 3 h 30 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 59.3 Mb/s Video ID : 2001 (0x7D1) Menu ID : 608 (0x260) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Format [email protected]@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 3 h 30 min Bit rate : 54.7 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 50.000 FPS Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 (Type 0) Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.132 Stream size : 80.4 GiB (92%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : HLG / BT.2020 (10-bit) Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant 2) Format : MPEG-TS File size : 53.3 GiB Duration : 3 h 4 min Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 41.5 Mb/s Network name : D-382 Frequency : 14064000000 OrbitalPosition : 3.0W Video ID : 512 (0x200) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Format [email protected]@Main Codec ID : 36 Duration : 3 h 4 min Bit rate : 35.9 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 50.000 FPS Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.087 Stream size : 46.2 GiB (87%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709
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gafor123
05-27-2016, 03:39 PM #1

Hello, I figured this would be the place to ask. My issue is that my computer has serious issues with playing / decoding 10-bit 4K 4:2:2 HEVC video files, I can tell it's also struggling a little with 1080i files if I try and edit it in Premiere, but it can't even play 2160p in a media player. I have tried all sorts of codecs and media players, however none of them can get the job done, which is why I think it's a hardware issue. My PC doesn't have any issues playing 4K ProRes at around 6-700mbps, so it shouldn't be a hard drive issue either. My setup: CPU: i7-6700 @ 3.40 GHz Motherboard: ASUS B150M-PLUS RAM: 32GB DDR4 (dual) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070 MSI 8GB GDDR5 I suspect that the CPU is too old, but I'd still love to get a second opinion before I upgrade my setup. Thanks in advance. Here is media info for files I have issues with with 2 different types of color primaries and chrome subsampling: 1) Format : MPEG-TS File size : 87.2 GiB Duration : 3 h 30 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 59.3 Mb/s Video ID : 2001 (0x7D1) Menu ID : 608 (0x260) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Format [email protected]@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 3 h 30 min Bit rate : 54.7 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 50.000 FPS Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 (Type 0) Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.132 Stream size : 80.4 GiB (92%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : HLG / BT.2020 (10-bit) Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant 2) Format : MPEG-TS File size : 53.3 GiB Duration : 3 h 4 min Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 41.5 Mb/s Network name : D-382 Frequency : 14064000000 OrbitalPosition : 3.0W Video ID : 512 (0x200) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Format [email protected]@Main Codec ID : 36 Duration : 3 h 4 min Bit rate : 35.9 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 50.000 FPS Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.087 Stream size : 46.2 GiB (87%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709

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Redstorm222
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05-29-2016, 09:47 AM
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You need hardware decoding for smoother video playback. Current support includes GPU acceleration on Intel 11 and 12 series chips and M1 Macs. I usually convert the footage to ProRes before working with it and remove the original files once the ProRes versions look good.
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Redstorm222
05-29-2016, 09:47 AM #2

You need hardware decoding for smoother video playback. Current support includes GPU acceleration on Intel 11 and 12 series chips and M1 Macs. I usually convert the footage to ProRes before working with it and remove the original files once the ProRes versions look good.

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TotoNightmare
Junior Member
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05-29-2016, 01:01 PM
#3
I own a 9700k and an RTX 2060 on Windows 10. I stopped trying to fix the issues and switched back to H.264. Various programs and drivers were tested, but everything remained unsolvable. I’m done fighting it now—just let me know if you have a fix!
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TotoNightmare
05-29-2016, 01:01 PM #3

I own a 9700k and an RTX 2060 on Windows 10. I stopped trying to fix the issues and switched back to H.264. Various programs and drivers were tested, but everything remained unsolvable. I’m done fighting it now—just let me know if you have a fix!

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YuriplaysBR24
Junior Member
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05-30-2016, 06:02 PM
#4
Thank you for your prompt response. Processing files between 80-100GB to ProRes isn't feasible, though I see your main concern would be upgrading the CPU to a newer model. Please let me know.
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YuriplaysBR24
05-30-2016, 06:02 PM #4

Thank you for your prompt response. Processing files between 80-100GB to ProRes isn't feasible, though I see your main concern would be upgrading the CPU to a newer model. Please let me know.

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jshi40700
Member
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06-01-2016, 12:14 AM
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I’ve met someone who handles these files, and he should be able to play them without any problems. I plan to ask him about his configuration since I’m confident his setup isn’t overly complicated.
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jshi40700
06-01-2016, 12:14 AM #5

I’ve met someone who handles these files, and he should be able to play them without any problems. I plan to ask him about his configuration since I’m confident his setup isn’t overly complicated.

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zMadeus
Posting Freak
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06-01-2016, 01:50 PM
#6
The file sizes afterward are smaller than the HEVC format.
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zMadeus
06-01-2016, 01:50 PM #6

The file sizes afterward are smaller than the HEVC format.

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Charliemc909
Posting Freak
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06-01-2016, 06:26 PM
#7
It's quite reasonable. Similar dimensions to my R5s at 10-bit, roughly three times the IPC. Around 600 megabits for 2160p at 30 frames per second.
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Charliemc909
06-01-2016, 06:26 PM #7

It's quite reasonable. Similar dimensions to my R5s at 10-bit, roughly three times the IPC. Around 600 megabits for 2160p at 30 frames per second.