F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Create AdviceIdeas for a new development project.

Create AdviceIdeas for a new development project.

Create AdviceIdeas for a new development project.

Pages (3): 1 2 3 Next
H
hickerbilly15
Junior Member
5
09-12-2022, 07:56 PM
#1
Currently just feeling this out to see if it's a good or bad time to build a new system. What are your thoughts regarding when new models or generations of CPUs and GPUs will be released, for example? I keep being tempted by the 4090 GPU but I've heard about a potential 4090 Ti or 4090 Super.
And I'm curious about the GPUs with SSDs attached directly but I don't know if they are worth considering and I don't think there's a 4090 model with this feature...
Also curious about the idea of using the 980 Ti I currently have as a dedicated PhysX card along with something like a 4090 as the main GPU. Worth considering?
Approximate Purchase Date:
No hurry. Depends on what's sensible.
Budget Range:
I don't want to waste money in a ludicrous way (so perhaps don't go for a hyper-overclocked CPU 5% faster at twice the price!) but essentially there's no financial limit on my spending.
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming with maxed out settings is definitely the most important thing. Of course I do also use the internet and watch movies. I don't do anything else on here really, so choice of processor etc. should be gaming focused. I have absolutely no interest in pretty lights so no need to waste money on RGB components.
Are you buying a monitor:
Yes.
Parts to Upgrade:
Most likely everything except keyboard and mouse and drives. I have lots of drives including multiple SSDs. I'd probably want to keep those or at least everything that isn't a HDD. I use headphones so I don't need speakers. Currently using a sound card built into a Logitech G510 keyboard. I'm wondering if a proper sound card you install into the motherboard would be worth it. I've never had one.
Wouldn't hurt to put in another SSD (presumably one of those that clips into the motherboard directly) as mine are a bit old now and might not be the fastest.
Do you need to buy OS:
Yes. Advice appreciated on which. I have Windows 7. I like Windows 7 but I imagine I need to get something newer.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Anywhere reliable which is UK based as that's where I live.
Location:
Reading, Berkshire, the UK.
Parts Preferences:
I'm used to Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs but it's not that important.
Overclocking:
Never had any luck with this in the past. I'm unlikely to attempt anything major. Maybe? Pre-overclocked parts preferable.
SLI or Crossfire:
Probably not. Never tried it and I heard it has issues.
Your Monitor Resolution:
I currently have a 2560x1440 IPS QNIX 2710LED
I'm considering upgrading to something 4K similar to the
Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM​
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2256541/...eview.html
Open to advice about what similar monitors are best. I think 32 inch is about as big as I want to go as fitting in more than 28 inches width will be tricky. Let me know if there's something larger that's worth considering. I would need to find a way to make it fit... But it's possible. I have a big air conditioner on the desk for the stupidly hot summers. Maybe I can place it elsewhere.
4k resolution, high frame rate, fast response time, and true black are the attractive features here mostly. I need a matte monitor. Can't stand glossy because seeing my reflection is super distracting.
Additional Comments:
Preferably relatively quiet. Would prefer a case with good air circulation and cable control, and with those removable dust catcher screens you just take out and rinse off, like on the Corsair 900D. I'm curious about water or hybrid cooling but not sure whether it's worth the bother. SSD bays would be very nice.
Space around the PC area is an issue so I need to take case dimensions into account in order to fit in the monitor and PC tower on the desk. If it's taller or more than a couple of inches wider than the Coolermaster Centurion case (480 mm x 202 mm x 435 mm D x W x H) then it could be problematic.
In terms of RAM I'd prefer to go for an excessive amount that will be future proof for a few years.
Definitely a modular PSU this time based on past experience of cables filling the case in a nightmarish tangle.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
My old system is starting to struggle due to outdated hardware. Still runs most games perfectly well but its time is running out. I would like to have something capable of maxing out STALKER 2 when it releases. There's no real hurry at the moment so I can wait if it seems like a good idea.
In case it's helpful, what I currently have is the following:
Core i7 920 from 2008.
12GB DDR3 ram.
980 Ti golden edition as graphics card.
Coolermaster centurion case with the fan from an aerocool V-touch pro case on the side (400mm!).
Various SSDs.
Horribly non-modular 950W power supply.
Titan Fenrir CPU cooler. Works very nicely but I assume it would not be compatible with modern socket types? Had some problems with the fan on this interfering with heat spreaders on the RAM so I would like to try to avoid this issue with a new build.
H
hickerbilly15
09-12-2022, 07:56 PM #1

Currently just feeling this out to see if it's a good or bad time to build a new system. What are your thoughts regarding when new models or generations of CPUs and GPUs will be released, for example? I keep being tempted by the 4090 GPU but I've heard about a potential 4090 Ti or 4090 Super.
And I'm curious about the GPUs with SSDs attached directly but I don't know if they are worth considering and I don't think there's a 4090 model with this feature...
Also curious about the idea of using the 980 Ti I currently have as a dedicated PhysX card along with something like a 4090 as the main GPU. Worth considering?
Approximate Purchase Date:
No hurry. Depends on what's sensible.
Budget Range:
I don't want to waste money in a ludicrous way (so perhaps don't go for a hyper-overclocked CPU 5% faster at twice the price!) but essentially there's no financial limit on my spending.
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming with maxed out settings is definitely the most important thing. Of course I do also use the internet and watch movies. I don't do anything else on here really, so choice of processor etc. should be gaming focused. I have absolutely no interest in pretty lights so no need to waste money on RGB components.
Are you buying a monitor:
Yes.
Parts to Upgrade:
Most likely everything except keyboard and mouse and drives. I have lots of drives including multiple SSDs. I'd probably want to keep those or at least everything that isn't a HDD. I use headphones so I don't need speakers. Currently using a sound card built into a Logitech G510 keyboard. I'm wondering if a proper sound card you install into the motherboard would be worth it. I've never had one.
Wouldn't hurt to put in another SSD (presumably one of those that clips into the motherboard directly) as mine are a bit old now and might not be the fastest.
Do you need to buy OS:
Yes. Advice appreciated on which. I have Windows 7. I like Windows 7 but I imagine I need to get something newer.
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Anywhere reliable which is UK based as that's where I live.
Location:
Reading, Berkshire, the UK.
Parts Preferences:
I'm used to Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs but it's not that important.
Overclocking:
Never had any luck with this in the past. I'm unlikely to attempt anything major. Maybe? Pre-overclocked parts preferable.
SLI or Crossfire:
Probably not. Never tried it and I heard it has issues.
Your Monitor Resolution:
I currently have a 2560x1440 IPS QNIX 2710LED
I'm considering upgrading to something 4K similar to the
Asus ROG Swift OLED PG32UCDM​
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2256541/...eview.html
Open to advice about what similar monitors are best. I think 32 inch is about as big as I want to go as fitting in more than 28 inches width will be tricky. Let me know if there's something larger that's worth considering. I would need to find a way to make it fit... But it's possible. I have a big air conditioner on the desk for the stupidly hot summers. Maybe I can place it elsewhere.
4k resolution, high frame rate, fast response time, and true black are the attractive features here mostly. I need a matte monitor. Can't stand glossy because seeing my reflection is super distracting.
Additional Comments:
Preferably relatively quiet. Would prefer a case with good air circulation and cable control, and with those removable dust catcher screens you just take out and rinse off, like on the Corsair 900D. I'm curious about water or hybrid cooling but not sure whether it's worth the bother. SSD bays would be very nice.
Space around the PC area is an issue so I need to take case dimensions into account in order to fit in the monitor and PC tower on the desk. If it's taller or more than a couple of inches wider than the Coolermaster Centurion case (480 mm x 202 mm x 435 mm D x W x H) then it could be problematic.
In terms of RAM I'd prefer to go for an excessive amount that will be future proof for a few years.
Definitely a modular PSU this time based on past experience of cables filling the case in a nightmarish tangle.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
My old system is starting to struggle due to outdated hardware. Still runs most games perfectly well but its time is running out. I would like to have something capable of maxing out STALKER 2 when it releases. There's no real hurry at the moment so I can wait if it seems like a good idea.
In case it's helpful, what I currently have is the following:
Core i7 920 from 2008.
12GB DDR3 ram.
980 Ti golden edition as graphics card.
Coolermaster centurion case with the fan from an aerocool V-touch pro case on the side (400mm!).
Various SSDs.
Horribly non-modular 950W power supply.
Titan Fenrir CPU cooler. Works very nicely but I assume it would not be compatible with modern socket types? Had some problems with the fan on this interfering with heat spreaders on the RAM so I would like to try to avoid this issue with a new build.

C
Chester709
Junior Member
44
09-13-2022, 02:17 AM
#2
The latest whispers indicate that next-generation components may arrive by year-end or early next year. Therefore, if you're contemplating whether to construct a new system now, my response remains consistent: if possible, wait. If urgency demands it, proceed immediately.
C
Chester709
09-13-2022, 02:17 AM #2

The latest whispers indicate that next-generation components may arrive by year-end or early next year. Therefore, if you're contemplating whether to construct a new system now, my response remains consistent: if possible, wait. If urgency demands it, proceed immediately.

T
Taybaybay
Posting Freak
850
09-13-2022, 02:49 AM
#3
LGA1366 shows unexpected fit with LGA1700 just a couple of millimeters apart in hole spacing. If your adapter can be adjusted, it should function. However, a fresh cooler won't cause issues or become overly costly.

These GPU/SSD configurations benefit from the numerous mid-range GPUs that don’t utilize all 16x lanes in the PCIe slot. They operate with PCIe 8x/8x and supply 4x bandwidth to M.2 drives. The motherboard needs to accommodate PCIe splitting for this setup to succeed. Large GPUs retain x16 lane connections, leaving no space for additional M.2 drives. This setup is mainly practical for compact builds where multiple drives are needed, especially in Mini-ITX boards that typically support two or three drives stacked or on the rear panel. It isn’t a major market opportunity.

4090 models are nearing the end of their lifecycle and may not be the best purchase right now.

980Ti performs worse than RTX4060 and RX7600, making any GPU a solid upgrade. For those who want longevity without breaking the bank, a 4070 Super or 4070 Ti Super offers a good balance for several years.
T
Taybaybay
09-13-2022, 02:49 AM #3

LGA1366 shows unexpected fit with LGA1700 just a couple of millimeters apart in hole spacing. If your adapter can be adjusted, it should function. However, a fresh cooler won't cause issues or become overly costly.

These GPU/SSD configurations benefit from the numerous mid-range GPUs that don’t utilize all 16x lanes in the PCIe slot. They operate with PCIe 8x/8x and supply 4x bandwidth to M.2 drives. The motherboard needs to accommodate PCIe splitting for this setup to succeed. Large GPUs retain x16 lane connections, leaving no space for additional M.2 drives. This setup is mainly practical for compact builds where multiple drives are needed, especially in Mini-ITX boards that typically support two or three drives stacked or on the rear panel. It isn’t a major market opportunity.

4090 models are nearing the end of their lifecycle and may not be the best purchase right now.

980Ti performs worse than RTX4060 and RX7600, making any GPU a solid upgrade. For those who want longevity without breaking the bank, a 4070 Super or 4070 Ti Super offers a good balance for several years.

H
Hampus07
Member
217
09-13-2022, 04:04 AM
#4
I can't support a 14900k, 14700k price tag as they're essentially the same under typical use. Raising to 6Ghz isn't common and 16e cores aren't useful for casual gaming. 4K graphics are better suited for single-player story games.
H
Hampus07
09-13-2022, 04:04 AM #4

I can't support a 14900k, 14700k price tag as they're essentially the same under typical use. Raising to 6Ghz isn't common and 16e cores aren't useful for casual gaming. 4K graphics are better suited for single-player story games.

V
VikingPlay
Junior Member
25
09-13-2022, 04:18 AM
#5
You noted possessing numerous SSDs, but they would need to be SATA drives paired with an i7-920 processor unless you made the effort to use them solely as non-bootable storage. The chassis is only marginally wider. 4070 Super will suffice for gaming at 1440p for some time. Other options include the 7800XT / 7900 GRE from AMD, 4070 TI Super, or a 7900XT from AMD.
V
VikingPlay
09-13-2022, 04:18 AM #5

You noted possessing numerous SSDs, but they would need to be SATA drives paired with an i7-920 processor unless you made the effort to use them solely as non-bootable storage. The chassis is only marginally wider. 4070 Super will suffice for gaming at 1440p for some time. Other options include the 7800XT / 7900 GRE from AMD, 4070 TI Super, or a 7900XT from AMD.

J
juanma18c
Junior Member
43
09-14-2022, 02:57 PM
#6
My interest leans more toward single-player story-driven games.
Thanks for the details about the GPU SSD. Not really helpful for my needs.
Regarding the SSDs in the current setup, they are:
Crucial CT750MX300SSD1
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
Samsung SSD 860 Evo 4TB
Around 5 TB of storage available. Yes, SATA is used and one serves as the main boot drive. I probably had no choice when the system was first assembled. I’d prefer to retain them since they hold a lot of games.
What do you think about the monitor? I’m not an expert on latency or advanced metrics, but the one linked looks decent and having 4K would be great.
J
juanma18c
09-14-2022, 02:57 PM #6

My interest leans more toward single-player story-driven games.
Thanks for the details about the GPU SSD. Not really helpful for my needs.
Regarding the SSDs in the current setup, they are:
Crucial CT750MX300SSD1
Samsung SSD 840 Pro
Samsung SSD 860 Evo 4TB
Around 5 TB of storage available. Yes, SATA is used and one serves as the main boot drive. I probably had no choice when the system was first assembled. I’d prefer to retain them since they hold a lot of games.
What do you think about the monitor? I’m not an expert on latency or advanced metrics, but the one linked looks decent and having 4K would be great.

N
Narava
Member
70
09-14-2022, 03:39 PM
#7
How to identify whether a case includes those dust filter panels? I'm not sure what they are, but I notice the inside of my PC becomes really messy.
N
Narava
09-14-2022, 03:39 PM #7

How to identify whether a case includes those dust filter panels? I'm not sure what they are, but I notice the inside of my PC becomes really messy.

P
PerritaMacrera
Member
151
09-14-2022, 05:34 PM
#8
Intel build details are provided.
PCPartPicker list includes the following components:

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor (£358.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 (£249.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (£236.07 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (£164.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB (£1598.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower (£84.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX (£198.84 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit (£106.37 @ Senetic)

Total cost: £3057.20
All prices contain shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts.
Dust filter recommendation for the case is available via the provided links.
Reference images and video: included in the listing.
P
PerritaMacrera
09-14-2022, 05:34 PM #8

Intel build details are provided.
PCPartPicker list includes the following components:

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700 2.1 GHz 20-Core Processor (£358.99 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700 (£249.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (£236.07 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (£164.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB (£1598.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower (£84.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply: SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX (£198.84 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit (£106.37 @ Senetic)

Total cost: £3057.20
All prices contain shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts.
Dust filter recommendation for the case is available via the provided links.
Reference images and video: included in the listing.

X
xFqtal_
Senior Member
670
09-15-2022, 12:10 AM
#9
AMD build details are provided.

PC Part Selection:
CPU:
- AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£348.15 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler:
- Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard:
- MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£239.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory:
- G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£201.34 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:
- Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (£164.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Video Card:
- Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1598.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case:
- Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply:
- SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£198.84 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System:
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit (£106.37 @ Senetic)
Total cost: £3001.64
All prices encompass shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts.
Selected parts were chosen based on predefined parameters.
Generated by PCPartPicker on 2024-04-08 22:09 BST+0100
X
xFqtal_
09-15-2022, 12:10 AM #9

AMD build details are provided.

PC Part Selection:
CPU:
- AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£348.15 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler:
- Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler (£57.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard:
- MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (£239.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory:
- G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£201.34 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:
- Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (£164.99 @ MoreCoCo)
Video Card:
- Gigabyte WINDFORCE V2 GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card (£1598.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case:
- Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.99 @ AWD-IT)
Power Supply:
- SeaSonic VERTEX GX-1200 1200 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£198.84 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System:
- Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit (£106.37 @ Senetic)
Total cost: £3001.64
All prices encompass shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts.
Selected parts were chosen based on predefined parameters.
Generated by PCPartPicker on 2024-04-08 22:09 BST+0100

F
foxsabe
Junior Member
1
09-15-2022, 02:39 AM
#10
Thanks for this. This build looks promising... and from what I can see Intel seems better than AMD for gaming compared to the Ryzen7. Slightly concerned about an apparent lack of fan headers in some places on the motherboard but I assume some kind of extension cables are available for that?
F
foxsabe
09-15-2022, 02:39 AM #10

Thanks for this. This build looks promising... and from what I can see Intel seems better than AMD for gaming compared to the Ryzen7. Slightly concerned about an apparent lack of fan headers in some places on the motherboard but I assume some kind of extension cables are available for that?

Pages (3): 1 2 3 Next