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CPU's might narrow the difference between desktop and mobile.

CPU's might narrow the difference between desktop and mobile.

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_FattyWap_
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10-15-2023, 06:00 PM
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This is a dumb question, but I love asking them Alike NVidia (mostly) closing the gap between Desktop and Mobile GPU performance, with roughly 5% give or take.. Will Intel or AMD achieve the same with CPU's? Are we even getting there? Is the gap even closing? Or is it just two totally different animals that'll never meet.
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_FattyWap_
10-15-2023, 06:00 PM #1

This is a dumb question, but I love asking them Alike NVidia (mostly) closing the gap between Desktop and Mobile GPU performance, with roughly 5% give or take.. Will Intel or AMD achieve the same with CPU's? Are we even getting there? Is the gap even closing? Or is it just two totally different animals that'll never meet.

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Angusbeef0721
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10-15-2023, 08:08 PM
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Mobile is improving, yet desktop is advancing too. The main issue is that, currently, mobile is constrained by thermal and power factors in certain situations.
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Angusbeef0721
10-15-2023, 08:08 PM #2

Mobile is improving, yet desktop is advancing too. The main issue is that, currently, mobile is constrained by thermal and power factors in certain situations.

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Durif
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10-16-2023, 01:43 AM
#3
It all comes down to the laptop's design. Some models use a desktop chip, but whether that counts as a mobile chip depends on the cooling capabilities. Generally, desktops offer more thermal headroom than laptops, even if they share similar heat output. That’s why it makes sense to focus on that factor.
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Durif
10-16-2023, 01:43 AM #3

It all comes down to the laptop's design. Some models use a desktop chip, but whether that counts as a mobile chip depends on the cooling capabilities. Generally, desktops offer more thermal headroom than laptops, even if they share similar heat output. That’s why it makes sense to focus on that factor.

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Hexogen
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10-16-2023, 08:29 AM
#4
It seems we're nearing the goal, especially with AMD's advancements. Intel's 14nm technology is more challenging due to lower power efficiency, but we hope future smaller nodes will help improve things (though it's hard to predict AMD's direction at that stage).
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Hexogen
10-16-2023, 08:29 AM #4

It seems we're nearing the goal, especially with AMD's advancements. Intel's 14nm technology is more challenging due to lower power efficiency, but we hope future smaller nodes will help improve things (though it's hard to predict AMD's direction at that stage).

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TommyTheLommy
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10-17-2023, 08:26 PM
#5
Sure, happy to help! Let me know if you need anything else.
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TommyTheLommy
10-17-2023, 08:26 PM #5

Sure, happy to help! Let me know if you need anything else.

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DennisAlkamo
Junior Member
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10-17-2023, 08:34 PM
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This applies to every business. The key distinction between desktop and mobile lies in power. They’re fundamentally similar. For identical chips, increasing the power allowance in a laptop yields comparable performance to a desktop. The challenge arises with mobile: designs can be optimized for efficiency at greater costs. With the same number of cores, a higher clock speed boosts performance but reduces efficiency. Mobile systems often run at lower speeds to save power, compensating by using more cores. More cores can consume less power than a faster clock within reasonable bounds. Yet, additional cores come with higher expense. What price are customers willing to pay?
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DennisAlkamo
10-17-2023, 08:34 PM #6

This applies to every business. The key distinction between desktop and mobile lies in power. They’re fundamentally similar. For identical chips, increasing the power allowance in a laptop yields comparable performance to a desktop. The challenge arises with mobile: designs can be optimized for efficiency at greater costs. With the same number of cores, a higher clock speed boosts performance but reduces efficiency. Mobile systems often run at lower speeds to save power, compensating by using more cores. More cores can consume less power than a faster clock within reasonable bounds. Yet, additional cores come with higher expense. What price are customers willing to pay?

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tinodz
Member
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10-18-2023, 11:26 AM
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It's around 4900h, which is near the 3700x mark. Generally, you stick to the same chip for both markets, so the built-in TDP benefits of desktop let you push more power from the same unit. Even Nvidia hasn't gotten any closer than the others. In reality, they've just opted for a higher TDP setup. This is clear when looking at the performance differences between devices.
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tinodz
10-18-2023, 11:26 AM #7

It's around 4900h, which is near the 3700x mark. Generally, you stick to the same chip for both markets, so the built-in TDP benefits of desktop let you push more power from the same unit. Even Nvidia hasn't gotten any closer than the others. In reality, they've just opted for a higher TDP setup. This is clear when looking at the performance differences between devices.

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MichaelFW
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10-18-2023, 07:17 PM
#8
GPUs aren't what you're hearing about. The 2080 Max performs worse than the 2060 Super. The gap between mobile GPUs and their desktop versions is roughly 30%. Meanwhile, the difference between the Ryzen 4900H and the 3700X is just 5-10%
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MichaelFW
10-18-2023, 07:17 PM #8

GPUs aren't what you're hearing about. The 2080 Max performs worse than the 2060 Super. The gap between mobile GPUs and their desktop versions is roughly 30%. Meanwhile, the difference between the Ryzen 4900H and the 3700X is just 5-10%

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546007
Member
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10-19-2023, 04:03 AM
#9
I'm just joking, they seem to not be real at all! 😄
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546007
10-19-2023, 04:03 AM #9

I'm just joking, they seem to not be real at all! 😄

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NKKY
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10-24-2023, 09:04 AM
#10
Some cards perform worse than their desktop versions by as much as 20%. You can reduce the power draw of a 220W 2080 to 110W without any issues.
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NKKY
10-24-2023, 09:04 AM #10

Some cards perform worse than their desktop versions by as much as 20%. You can reduce the power draw of a 220W 2080 to 110W without any issues.

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