F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Could be worth it depending on your needs.

Could be worth it depending on your needs.

Could be worth it depending on your needs.

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JungleKing666
Junior Member
49
03-30-2017, 06:29 PM
#1
This has probably been asked a bunch of times over, but I'm bored and curious for those that would entertain me. Can anyone convince me of a reason to upgrade my current 3570k system to one of the new Ryzen platforms? I have the itch to build and play with the new technology, but can't justify spending the money for limited gains Right now I have a 3570k overclocked to 4.2Ghz on a -0.020V offset voltage. Solid and cool under load and I'm sure room to push another few hundred Mhz. I have it paired with a Sapphire Nitro RX 580 8GB SE at stock and 16GB of 1600 DDR3 ram. I tend to play single player, non-FPS games, and I tend to play those that have been released sometime in the past. I just got done GTA V a few months ago and am on my second run of DMC5 (which stays at 60fps at 1440p other than cut scenes that will occasionally drop to 45fps). I'm not sure what my next game is, but it won't involve me playing with 60 other people. I don't have time to get good enough to not have to hear smack from a 12 year old that plays 10 hours a day (a job and 2 year old children will do that to you). With the prevalence of 6 and 8 core CPUs, I feel bad for my 4 core/thread 3570k when I run Cinebench, but she still isn't letting me down in any noticeable way where it counts. Is that about to change? I'd hate to fire up my rig one day and have to play at a peasant 30fps at 1080p (although I tend to play most things at 1080p... DMC5 just seems really light on its system requirements, so why not?). So, is there any reason that I'm not thinking of for not replacing my 6/7 year old CPU/Mobo/Ram? I'm honestly amazed at how good Intel's platform is/was even after all of those years.
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JungleKing666
03-30-2017, 06:29 PM #1

This has probably been asked a bunch of times over, but I'm bored and curious for those that would entertain me. Can anyone convince me of a reason to upgrade my current 3570k system to one of the new Ryzen platforms? I have the itch to build and play with the new technology, but can't justify spending the money for limited gains Right now I have a 3570k overclocked to 4.2Ghz on a -0.020V offset voltage. Solid and cool under load and I'm sure room to push another few hundred Mhz. I have it paired with a Sapphire Nitro RX 580 8GB SE at stock and 16GB of 1600 DDR3 ram. I tend to play single player, non-FPS games, and I tend to play those that have been released sometime in the past. I just got done GTA V a few months ago and am on my second run of DMC5 (which stays at 60fps at 1440p other than cut scenes that will occasionally drop to 45fps). I'm not sure what my next game is, but it won't involve me playing with 60 other people. I don't have time to get good enough to not have to hear smack from a 12 year old that plays 10 hours a day (a job and 2 year old children will do that to you). With the prevalence of 6 and 8 core CPUs, I feel bad for my 4 core/thread 3570k when I run Cinebench, but she still isn't letting me down in any noticeable way where it counts. Is that about to change? I'd hate to fire up my rig one day and have to play at a peasant 30fps at 1080p (although I tend to play most things at 1080p... DMC5 just seems really light on its system requirements, so why not?). So, is there any reason that I'm not thinking of for not replacing my 6/7 year old CPU/Mobo/Ram? I'm honestly amazed at how good Intel's platform is/was even after all of those years.

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maxmat345
Member
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04-03-2017, 05:14 AM
#2
It's checking if your request is being handled appropriately and within a sensible range.
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maxmat345
04-03-2017, 05:14 AM #2

It's checking if your request is being handled appropriately and within a sensible range.

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Cefreak113
Senior Member
484
04-08-2017, 07:31 PM
#3
You seem content with the current setup. I’d keep it if it wasn’t for that expensive upgrade. It’s easy to stay with what you have, especially when you’re used to it. Your interest in new hardware might be a sign of wanting something better, but maybe someone you know could benefit from it instead. I’m lucky to have shared my knowledge with friends and helped them out without needing to own it myself. Of course, there are times you might feel envious, but channeling that into helping others can turn it into something positive.
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Cefreak113
04-08-2017, 07:31 PM #3

You seem content with the current setup. I’d keep it if it wasn’t for that expensive upgrade. It’s easy to stay with what you have, especially when you’re used to it. Your interest in new hardware might be a sign of wanting something better, but maybe someone you know could benefit from it instead. I’m lucky to have shared my knowledge with friends and helped them out without needing to own it myself. Of course, there are times you might feel envious, but channeling that into helping others can turn it into something positive.

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Magic_Wolf_
Senior Member
530
04-28-2017, 10:35 PM
#4
Yep. I really have no complaints. I've been hobbying around with computers for the past 20 years but havn't built a rig with newer technology in quite some time (save for the RX 580... which is by no means "new" anymore). Feeling frisky. I'm just wondering if there is something I am missing as to why a 4 core/thread CPU like my 3570k would be approaching obsolescence sooner rather than later? Or, perhaps more relevant to my question, is unless you need the processing power of a 16 thread CPU for a 64 player online game, why aren't more people singing the praises of how above-average something like the 3570k still functions in this day and age?
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Magic_Wolf_
04-28-2017, 10:35 PM #4

Yep. I really have no complaints. I've been hobbying around with computers for the past 20 years but havn't built a rig with newer technology in quite some time (save for the RX 580... which is by no means "new" anymore). Feeling frisky. I'm just wondering if there is something I am missing as to why a 4 core/thread CPU like my 3570k would be approaching obsolescence sooner rather than later? Or, perhaps more relevant to my question, is unless you need the processing power of a 16 thread CPU for a 64 player online game, why aren't more people singing the praises of how above-average something like the 3570k still functions in this day and age?

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Daboss132
Member
161
04-29-2017, 06:28 AM
#5
Your question is kind of a two parter, so I'll answer them in order. If your PC does everything you want to at a level you deem sufficient and reasonable, then there is 0 reason to upgrade. The games you play probably only utilize 4 core at most, many if not all new AAA releases utilize 16 threads no problem, or in some cases even more. But I will say for a lot of modern games, 4c/4t will feel quite dated. Even my 8600k, which is 6c6t overclocked to 5GHz feels a bit weak at times. At the end of the day, it comes down to what you really need to enjoy your PC the most. For some people that is 9990XE 512GB RAM quad Titan RTX NVLink, for others its an old school Athlon 64, a gig of RAM, and a Voodoo 5, and for some people it's simply a Macbook Pro with a TB3 docking station. If your PC is doing everything you need it to do and doing in a manner of which you enjoy it, then there is never a reason to upgrade until the time comes to where it does not.
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Daboss132
04-29-2017, 06:28 AM #5

Your question is kind of a two parter, so I'll answer them in order. If your PC does everything you want to at a level you deem sufficient and reasonable, then there is 0 reason to upgrade. The games you play probably only utilize 4 core at most, many if not all new AAA releases utilize 16 threads no problem, or in some cases even more. But I will say for a lot of modern games, 4c/4t will feel quite dated. Even my 8600k, which is 6c6t overclocked to 5GHz feels a bit weak at times. At the end of the day, it comes down to what you really need to enjoy your PC the most. For some people that is 9990XE 512GB RAM quad Titan RTX NVLink, for others its an old school Athlon 64, a gig of RAM, and a Voodoo 5, and for some people it's simply a Macbook Pro with a TB3 docking station. If your PC is doing everything you need it to do and doing in a manner of which you enjoy it, then there is never a reason to upgrade until the time comes to where it does not.

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marinagrams
Member
216
05-04-2017, 02:10 AM
#6
It looks like the CPU isn’t performing well enough for your gaming needs. I’m aware it would stand out in multiplayer titles that demand many cores and threads. My old machine has a 4790k, but hyperthreading really helps with 64-player maps after seeing someone struggle on a newer I5. I’m torn between upgrading to Zen 2 Ryzen or sticking with the current model, since it still trails Intel’s latest offerings. I believe the extra cores and threads will make it more future-proof, and Intel hasn’t announced any new desktop CPUs soon.
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marinagrams
05-04-2017, 02:10 AM #6

It looks like the CPU isn’t performing well enough for your gaming needs. I’m aware it would stand out in multiplayer titles that demand many cores and threads. My old machine has a 4790k, but hyperthreading really helps with 64-player maps after seeing someone struggle on a newer I5. I’m torn between upgrading to Zen 2 Ryzen or sticking with the current model, since it still trails Intel’s latest offerings. I believe the extra cores and threads will make it more future-proof, and Intel hasn’t announced any new desktop CPUs soon.

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KeepCalmNBs12
Junior Member
43
05-04-2017, 02:17 AM
#7
Operating on my 3570k with 16GB DDR3 and a Gigabyte 1660 super triple fan GPU...
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KeepCalmNBs12
05-04-2017, 02:17 AM #7

Operating on my 3570k with 16GB DDR3 and a Gigabyte 1660 super triple fan GPU...

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Kawii_Galaxy
Junior Member
6
05-09-2017, 02:33 AM
#8
appears perfectly on rx580 unless you use real shutters in some AAA games
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Kawii_Galaxy
05-09-2017, 02:33 AM #8

appears perfectly on rx580 unless you use real shutters in some AAA games