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Core ultra, i9, Arm64 — what are they?

Core ultra, i9, Arm64 — what are they?

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HoodieSwag
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12-30-2021, 09:15 AM
#1
You’re dealing with a lot of new tech right now. The situation sounds confusing because CPU specs are changing fast. Your old Ryzen 5900 had many cores for multitasking, but Intel stopped making those older models and now focuses on simpler designs like Core and Core Ultra. That means fewer threads and no hyper-threading. Some chips even have an AI processor (NPU) for machine learning tasks.

Your new Dark Hero X570 uses DDR4 memory and supports DDR5, which is newer. You’re upgrading from 12 cores/24 threads to 16 cores/32 threads—bigger performance potential. But the change in architecture matters: ARM-based devices like your Snapdragon X Elite use different designs, no hyper-threading, and include an NPU for AI.

Benchmarking is tricky because each platform has its own way of measuring speed. There’s no single standard to compare them directly. The newer CPUs often cost more upfront but promise better efficiency. If you want clarity, focus on what matters most—your workload needs—and stick to trusted reviews or benchmarks for your specific use case.
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HoodieSwag
12-30-2021, 09:15 AM #1

You’re dealing with a lot of new tech right now. The situation sounds confusing because CPU specs are changing fast. Your old Ryzen 5900 had many cores for multitasking, but Intel stopped making those older models and now focuses on simpler designs like Core and Core Ultra. That means fewer threads and no hyper-threading. Some chips even have an AI processor (NPU) for machine learning tasks.

Your new Dark Hero X570 uses DDR4 memory and supports DDR5, which is newer. You’re upgrading from 12 cores/24 threads to 16 cores/32 threads—bigger performance potential. But the change in architecture matters: ARM-based devices like your Snapdragon X Elite use different designs, no hyper-threading, and include an NPU for AI.

Benchmarking is tricky because each platform has its own way of measuring speed. There’s no single standard to compare them directly. The newer CPUs often cost more upfront but promise better efficiency. If you want clarity, focus on what matters most—your workload needs—and stick to trusted reviews or benchmarks for your specific use case.

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Martinbale
Junior Member
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12-30-2021, 04:05 PM
#2
AI made a mess again, old Mobo. X570 crosshair 8/wifi. Ordering a new one, upgraded version. The original board cost about 800$, dark hero had a 5900x. It blew up. Then another, then another. Finally I found something. Pfft, gave it to my daughter—what can I say? Now it’s got a 5950x. YES, I’d have chosen 5800x3d but couldn’t get one for months at $600. Still, 5950x16/32 OC’d still works what the hell. AI’s fun, but my 5950 should handle AI if I somehow added an NPU just for the sake of it. What’s going on?
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Martinbale
12-30-2021, 04:05 PM #2

AI made a mess again, old Mobo. X570 crosshair 8/wifi. Ordering a new one, upgraded version. The original board cost about 800$, dark hero had a 5900x. It blew up. Then another, then another. Finally I found something. Pfft, gave it to my daughter—what can I say? Now it’s got a 5950x. YES, I’d have chosen 5800x3d but couldn’t get one for months at $600. Still, 5950x16/32 OC’d still works what the hell. AI’s fun, but my 5950 should handle AI if I somehow added an NPU just for the sake of it. What’s going on?

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AffinityHD
Junior Member
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01-02-2022, 12:12 PM
#3
Benchmarking is straightforward. It involves tracking metrics like time taken for tasks, frame rates in games, power consumption, and heat output. It's similar to cars—whether they run on gas, electric, or hybrid. You can always assess performance and efficiency. Your list of details is clear. The confusion lies in the variety of chips: some include an APU, others don’t. What’s puzzling is how this has remained consistent over time—some models have an integrated GPU, while others don’t. It’s been a trend for years; prices have risen as well. We’re here to address exactly what you need, since it seems like you’re looking for specifics about upgrades.
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AffinityHD
01-02-2022, 12:12 PM #3

Benchmarking is straightforward. It involves tracking metrics like time taken for tasks, frame rates in games, power consumption, and heat output. It's similar to cars—whether they run on gas, electric, or hybrid. You can always assess performance and efficiency. Your list of details is clear. The confusion lies in the variety of chips: some include an APU, others don’t. What’s puzzling is how this has remained consistent over time—some models have an integrated GPU, while others don’t. It’s been a trend for years; prices have risen as well. We’re here to address exactly what you need, since it seems like you’re looking for specifics about upgrades.

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Emma_A99
Junior Member
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01-07-2022, 09:29 PM
#4
AMD iGPUs are known as APUs, which can be useful for troubleshooting but aren’t essential since you’re investing in hardware you don’t always use. Top-of-the-line performance (TOPS) is mostly irrelevant to Intel’s offerings. Intel has likely changed its Core lineup, possibly rebranding the Core i series into Core Ultra for two reasons: first, the model numbers became unwieldy with letters, making them harder to read; second, their CPU designs fell short of expectations. Dropping quality was evident—like dropping a watermelon from a skyscraper. In summary, the 14th-gen chips were disappointing and damaged the brand’s reputation. Intel positioned itself as the only serious CPU maker while AMD struggled during the transition to Ryzen. Eventually, AMD improved stability and captured market share with its APUs in the G-series. The next generation surprised everyone by delivering strong performance at a good price. Another generation followed, and AMD quickly moved up with their 3000 series, catching Intel off guard. Despite this, Intel remained focused on power over innovation, which backfired when consumers noticed better value from AMD. When Ryzen 5000 launched, AMD’s CPUs outperformed Intel across the board, especially in budget segments. This shift surprised Intel, which had relied on its market dominance. However, they weren’t overly concerned because public perception was already leaning toward AMD, and big clients like data centers and laptop makers continued to favor them. What they overlooked was that many tech enthusiasts had already become loyal to AMD, gradually shifting their preferences away from Intel. The situation changed dramatically after the Ryzen 5000 series, as AMD’s APUs in the G-series offered compelling performance at a lower cost. Intel’s strategy of maximizing power over progress ultimately backfired, leading to public skepticism and a loss of market confidence.
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Emma_A99
01-07-2022, 09:29 PM #4

AMD iGPUs are known as APUs, which can be useful for troubleshooting but aren’t essential since you’re investing in hardware you don’t always use. Top-of-the-line performance (TOPS) is mostly irrelevant to Intel’s offerings. Intel has likely changed its Core lineup, possibly rebranding the Core i series into Core Ultra for two reasons: first, the model numbers became unwieldy with letters, making them harder to read; second, their CPU designs fell short of expectations. Dropping quality was evident—like dropping a watermelon from a skyscraper. In summary, the 14th-gen chips were disappointing and damaged the brand’s reputation. Intel positioned itself as the only serious CPU maker while AMD struggled during the transition to Ryzen. Eventually, AMD improved stability and captured market share with its APUs in the G-series. The next generation surprised everyone by delivering strong performance at a good price. Another generation followed, and AMD quickly moved up with their 3000 series, catching Intel off guard. Despite this, Intel remained focused on power over innovation, which backfired when consumers noticed better value from AMD. When Ryzen 5000 launched, AMD’s CPUs outperformed Intel across the board, especially in budget segments. This shift surprised Intel, which had relied on its market dominance. However, they weren’t overly concerned because public perception was already leaning toward AMD, and big clients like data centers and laptop makers continued to favor them. What they overlooked was that many tech enthusiasts had already become loyal to AMD, gradually shifting their preferences away from Intel. The situation changed dramatically after the Ryzen 5000 series, as AMD’s APUs in the G-series offered compelling performance at a lower cost. Intel’s strategy of maximizing power over progress ultimately backfired, leading to public skepticism and a loss of market confidence.

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lamby37736
Junior Member
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01-09-2022, 06:03 AM
#5
Top response. Covered all the details since I’m an AMD user, 5950x. Yes, I mixed up x86 and x64—I’m used to Intel’s 686 and now AMD is mostly x86 but still compatible. I understand ARM and know what these cores feel like. A SoC is basically that. My Raspberry doesn’t have 20 cores, but my Ryzen has 16 or 32 threads; this “ultra” model has 20 cores and 20 threads. That’s what I mean by mixing ARM with x86. Intel seems to be adapting their x86 design for ARM. Why? For better battery life and dedicated CPUs that handle NPU tasks. In short, Intel is testing ARM solutions to see if they work. They’re essentially trying to retain customer trust in a tough market. Back when I sold electronics before people knew much, I relied on my expertise. They didn’t ask questions—they trusted me. My job was to sell whatever they wanted and set up the right support. Now I’m the store director in six months. These days? I’m wondering if I should pick up the phone again. It’s a bit unsettling. The Core Ultra 7 265k came through the mail. Once the PSU arrives, I’ll share an update. At that point, I expect the CPU to run smoothly (it’s on the Dell EPS1250 QVL) and the Quadro 4000 too. The RAM worked surprisingly well—inserted a 5600 16GB module, booted up, and asked if more memory was installed. That’s a surprise for Dell… more updates coming soon!
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lamby37736
01-09-2022, 06:03 AM #5

Top response. Covered all the details since I’m an AMD user, 5950x. Yes, I mixed up x86 and x64—I’m used to Intel’s 686 and now AMD is mostly x86 but still compatible. I understand ARM and know what these cores feel like. A SoC is basically that. My Raspberry doesn’t have 20 cores, but my Ryzen has 16 or 32 threads; this “ultra” model has 20 cores and 20 threads. That’s what I mean by mixing ARM with x86. Intel seems to be adapting their x86 design for ARM. Why? For better battery life and dedicated CPUs that handle NPU tasks. In short, Intel is testing ARM solutions to see if they work. They’re essentially trying to retain customer trust in a tough market. Back when I sold electronics before people knew much, I relied on my expertise. They didn’t ask questions—they trusted me. My job was to sell whatever they wanted and set up the right support. Now I’m the store director in six months. These days? I’m wondering if I should pick up the phone again. It’s a bit unsettling. The Core Ultra 7 265k came through the mail. Once the PSU arrives, I’ll share an update. At that point, I expect the CPU to run smoothly (it’s on the Dell EPS1250 QVL) and the Quadro 4000 too. The RAM worked surprisingly well—inserted a 5600 16GB module, booted up, and asked if more memory was installed. That’s a surprise for Dell… more updates coming soon!

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Brudora
Senior Member
726
01-11-2022, 12:17 AM
#6
It seems we're witnessing progress after ten years of no growth. Intel boosted performance in practical scenarios by adopting P and E cores. This results in a greater number of cores, reducing the value of hyperthreading.
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Brudora
01-11-2022, 12:17 AM #6

It seems we're witnessing progress after ten years of no growth. Intel boosted performance in practical scenarios by adopting P and E cores. This results in a greater number of cores, reducing the value of hyperthreading.