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Considering Windows 11 IoT LTSC for gaming PC...

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Chester007
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01-25-2025, 03:30 PM
#21
This is a very good example of the strawman argument. Just because it's difficult to 'detach oneself' from the tracking and telemetry gathering of big corporations, because of the ubiquitous nature of their goods and services, doesn't mean we shouldn't care about our personal metadata (e.g. was it collected legally, who collects it, for what purpose was it collected, how is my data protected from illegal or careless dissemination, is enough of my data stored in one place to identify me specifically, etc.).
If they can get it
legally
, I'm all for the OP getting whatever version of Windows they want to use. With that said, It'll probably cost in the neighboorhood of $600+ to purchase what they are after. Not only do you have the software purchase itself, you also have a minimum order count. It used to be 5 products. Not sure what it is now. Previously, you could get away with buying the one product you wanted and then adding on 4 other cheap throw-away products to reach the minimum of 5. OP, check out CDW. They used to make it somewhat easy (but expensive) to legally get enterprise products.
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Chester007
01-25-2025, 03:30 PM #21

This is a very good example of the strawman argument. Just because it's difficult to 'detach oneself' from the tracking and telemetry gathering of big corporations, because of the ubiquitous nature of their goods and services, doesn't mean we shouldn't care about our personal metadata (e.g. was it collected legally, who collects it, for what purpose was it collected, how is my data protected from illegal or careless dissemination, is enough of my data stored in one place to identify me specifically, etc.).
If they can get it
legally
, I'm all for the OP getting whatever version of Windows they want to use. With that said, It'll probably cost in the neighboorhood of $600+ to purchase what they are after. Not only do you have the software purchase itself, you also have a minimum order count. It used to be 5 products. Not sure what it is now. Previously, you could get away with buying the one product you wanted and then adding on 4 other cheap throw-away products to reach the minimum of 5. OP, check out CDW. They used to make it somewhat easy (but expensive) to legally get enterprise products.

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pepsitaroh
Member
209
01-27-2025, 03:59 AM
#22
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It is understood that Microsoft prefers home users to avoid IoT (LTSC) versions of Windows, which is the story they promote. As long as users are aware of the distinctions and constraints of these versions, there is no issue. From what I've learned, the drawbacks are limited (for me), while the advantages are significant. I appreciate receiving years of security and essential updates without unnecessary restrictions.
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pepsitaroh
01-27-2025, 03:59 AM #22

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It is understood that Microsoft prefers home users to avoid IoT (LTSC) versions of Windows, which is the story they promote. As long as users are aware of the distinctions and constraints of these versions, there is no issue. From what I've learned, the drawbacks are limited (for me), while the advantages are significant. I appreciate receiving years of security and essential updates without unnecessary restrictions.

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Jim80w
Member
71
01-31-2025, 06:07 PM
#23
A straw man suggests a distorted version of someone else's argument. There is no distortion or change made to the original claim about most electronic devices, including your new car, being surveillance tools. The only serious way to be truly cautious about data collection would be to abandon all electronic and electrical devices from before the 2000s—something I wouldn’t have to do. You can even drive a 1950s car without being watched, thanks to existing roadside cameras and police equipment.
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Jim80w
01-31-2025, 06:07 PM #23

A straw man suggests a distorted version of someone else's argument. There is no distortion or change made to the original claim about most electronic devices, including your new car, being surveillance tools. The only serious way to be truly cautious about data collection would be to abandon all electronic and electrical devices from before the 2000s—something I wouldn’t have to do. You can even drive a 1950s car without being watched, thanks to existing roadside cameras and police equipment.

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EthRry
Member
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02-02-2025, 07:31 PM
#24
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The claims about limiting telemetry or tracking are being misinterpreted. Every method the OP can use to stop or reduce tracking is one less option available. Because this goes against the original request, I will no longer engage further on this topic.
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EthRry
02-02-2025, 07:31 PM #24

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The claims about limiting telemetry or tracking are being misinterpreted. Every method the OP can use to stop or reduce tracking is one less option available. Because this goes against the original request, I will no longer engage further on this topic.

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ssauce
Member
162
02-03-2025, 03:49 AM
#25
Providing examples of the many ways the OP is being monitored is not a misstatement. In fact, it highlights other aspects that might worry them if this is relevant to their situation. A single missing telemetry point in a PC could easily spark confusion about minor issues like a drop of water in the ocean, but...
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ssauce
02-03-2025, 03:49 AM #25

Providing examples of the many ways the OP is being monitored is not a misstatement. In fact, it highlights other aspects that might worry them if this is relevant to their situation. A single missing telemetry point in a PC could easily spark confusion about minor issues like a drop of water in the ocean, but...

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