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Considering the differences between 12700K and 13/14600K for a new build.

Considering the differences between 12700K and 13/14600K for a new build.

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Arthashen
Junior Member
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01-31-2023, 09:28 PM
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They perform almost identically, yet in most tests the 8 P-cores underperform compared to 6 P-cores with more E-cores. For regular tasks—multiple browser tabs, virtual machines, or background CAD software—the results are similar. The price difference between the 3 CPUs is also comparable to the 8 vs 6 P-core setup. It’s hard to decide whether to go with the E-core version.
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Arthashen
01-31-2023, 09:28 PM #1

They perform almost identically, yet in most tests the 8 P-cores underperform compared to 6 P-cores with more E-cores. For regular tasks—multiple browser tabs, virtual machines, or background CAD software—the results are similar. The price difference between the 3 CPUs is also comparable to the 8 vs 6 P-core setup. It’s hard to decide whether to go with the E-core version.

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_Jay21_
Member
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02-02-2023, 12:39 PM
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13600K delivers solid performance at a great price. Excellent gaming chip with decent productivity too. Works well with many browsers on a Core 2 Duo.
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_Jay21_
02-02-2023, 12:39 PM #2

13600K delivers solid performance at a great price. Excellent gaming chip with decent productivity too. Works well with many browsers on a Core 2 Duo.

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coyote888
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02-04-2023, 11:18 PM
#3
Relies on the number of units but gains more from additional cores. These models mainly depend on RAM size. If you find one under $200 used, the 13600k/f/14600k/f over 12700k/f should work.
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coyote888
02-04-2023, 11:18 PM #3

Relies on the number of units but gains more from additional cores. These models mainly depend on RAM size. If you find one under $200 used, the 13600k/f/14600k/f over 12700k/f should work.

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SubterfudgeMan
Junior Member
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02-08-2023, 07:46 PM
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The issue is unclear to me. It seems VMs don't necessarily use physical cores directly, and the allocation often reflects thread counts instead. With three processors each having 20 threads, it's hard to pinpoint a clear advantage for VMs in terms of processor distribution.
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SubterfudgeMan
02-08-2023, 07:46 PM #4

The issue is unclear to me. It seems VMs don't necessarily use physical cores directly, and the allocation often reflects thread counts instead. With three processors each having 20 threads, it's hard to pinpoint a clear advantage for VMs in terms of processor distribution.

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MeatlessSugar
Junior Member
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02-09-2023, 01:20 AM
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I've only ever used VMs for running Android games or once I set up a W7 VM for some reason I can't remember now.
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MeatlessSugar
02-09-2023, 01:20 AM #5

I've only ever used VMs for running Android games or once I set up a W7 VM for some reason I can't remember now.

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King_of_GTA
Junior Member
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02-09-2023, 08:50 AM
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Not using VMWare Workstation either. If you leave the vmx enabled on them, your virtual machines will be extremely slow. For example, a Windows XP VM runs much slower than on a Pentium II 233. I tend to be quite frustrated with my e-cores, which makes me really want a 7800X3D. Running VMs can be a real hassle, Steam downloads are weird, but the rest works fine.
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King_of_GTA
02-09-2023, 08:50 AM #6

Not using VMWare Workstation either. If you leave the vmx enabled on them, your virtual machines will be extremely slow. For example, a Windows XP VM runs much slower than on a Pentium II 233. I tend to be quite frustrated with my e-cores, which makes me really want a 7800X3D. Running VMs can be a real hassle, Steam downloads are weird, but the rest works fine.

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THE_KILLER_
Member
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02-09-2023, 09:54 AM
#7
I checked the discussions and it seems many find E cores challenging for virtual machines. It looks like 12700K might be a better choice.
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THE_KILLER_
02-09-2023, 09:54 AM #7

I checked the discussions and it seems many find E cores challenging for virtual machines. It looks like 12700K might be a better choice.

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Pyromax33
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02-10-2023, 11:58 PM
#8
It's probably the route I would go. Hell, if I had a 12700K instead of my 12600KF I'd probably just disable the e-cores altogether since I'd have an extra two big boy cores/threads which would help "make up the difference" so to speak. To illustrate my point of how ass e-cores are for VMs, here's a freshly installed Xubuntu 21.10 VM booting from my MP510, with 6GB of RAM and 4 cores assigned. First part is with it using the e-cores, second part is me changing the affinity to only p-cores. And believe me, the difference with Windows guests is FAR greater. 2024-01-12 12-32-43.mp4
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Pyromax33
02-10-2023, 11:58 PM #8

It's probably the route I would go. Hell, if I had a 12700K instead of my 12600KF I'd probably just disable the e-cores altogether since I'd have an extra two big boy cores/threads which would help "make up the difference" so to speak. To illustrate my point of how ass e-cores are for VMs, here's a freshly installed Xubuntu 21.10 VM booting from my MP510, with 6GB of RAM and 4 cores assigned. First part is with it using the e-cores, second part is me changing the affinity to only p-cores. And believe me, the difference with Windows guests is FAR greater. 2024-01-12 12-32-43.mp4

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Demoralize
Member
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02-11-2023, 06:25 AM
#9
It came to my attention. I’m curious if this could free up more TDP for pushing the 8 P-cores even further. Have they tested this setup? I haven’t managed a consistent overclocked system that works every day yet. Still, experimenting with numbers sounds enjoyable for now.
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Demoralize
02-11-2023, 06:25 AM #9

It came to my attention. I’m curious if this could free up more TDP for pushing the 8 P-cores even further. Have they tested this setup? I haven’t managed a consistent overclocked system that works every day yet. Still, experimenting with numbers sounds enjoyable for now.

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Mrapplefox13
Member
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02-11-2023, 04:53 PM
#10
You're in the same boat as me—using boost tables, voltage curves, and PL1/PL2 limits. It really works. Or it simply reduces overall power consumption, which can be useful.
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Mrapplefox13
02-11-2023, 04:53 PM #10

You're in the same boat as me—using boost tables, voltage curves, and PL1/PL2 limits. It really works. Or it simply reduces overall power consumption, which can be useful.