Consider whether an upgrade is necessary based on your needs and current performance.
Consider whether an upgrade is necessary based on your needs and current performance.
Hey everyone, this experience has been really frustrating. I was using an x570 with a lot of upgrades—x570 Aorus Elite, 5800X, 16GB G.Skill DDR4, paired with an RTX 3080—for at least a year and a half. After that time, I decided to replace it, assuming Zen 4 would be much better than Intel 12th Gen. But it didn’t live up to expectations; it’s only slightly better while being significantly more expensive. The cheapest board in Europe is around 350€, and even the leaked B650 prices are not that affordable. Right now I’m running an exotic CPU for 115€, which has 18 cores, 36 threads, supports DDR3 and DDR4. After enabling turbo boost, it reaches up to 3.8GHz across all cores, but only if I limit it to 12 cores. My RTX 3080 is 10GB, and my monitor is 3440x1440. Should I wait for the next generation Ryzen CPUs or go for an i5-13600KF when it comes? The X99 Xeon is powerful, matching Zen 3 and Zen 2 performance in games, though it shines more in multi-core tasks. Games like Dying Light 2 don’t struggle with bottlenecks, and I’m managing 140fps on tweaked settings. What do you think? I’m just holding onto my current setup as a backup—it’s still working fine.
Just hold on for the upcoming X3D releases. Also, why maintain the 5800x instead of upgrading? Downgrading to a previous CPU would be better. For gaming, having 18 cores isn’t practical.
My 18 core PC is my secondary machine in a different space close to the TV. I retired my Ryzen setup at the start of summer to make more cash from it. If I thought Zen 4 was terrible, I’d hold onto it.
Which Xeon model? It barely hits Zen 1 speed. The E5 2699v3 is just a single-core performance compared to a Ryzen 3 1200. Don’t waste your money on it.
Not true, if you never had x99, don't speak non sense, I built many pc's on xeon's in past three years, there is also plenty of youtube content out there prooving it. I build pc's for sale on 2620v3,2630v3,2670v3,(2678v3 which is 12 core 24 threads 3.3ghz cpu with ddr3 and ddr4 support). And currently i am using 2696v3 which fastest 4th intel xeon cpu out there, with highest single core frequiency. Before 5800x i had 3600 for two years. 4TH xeon's even cheapest one after turbo boost unlock mode, are on par with R5 2600/r7 2700x in many many games, but ryzen must be overclocked to 4ghz atleast to be able to match it. There are games where 4th xeon's ahead of zen + and matched my r5 3600. Check Ukrainian channel Miyconst he did many comparrissons.
I've experienced x99 before. These xeons don't perform as quickly. You can run single-core benchmarks anywhere, but they tend to lag behind. Once a v3 reaches over 3.8ghz, it matches 1200 in single-core. For a Ryzen 5 1600 it's around 4.0 and for a Ryzen 1700 about 4.1. I'm familiar with these and can demonstrate with a 5820k if needed. Remember, they'll boost faster than any of those xeons will, but they still fall short of a Ryzen 1600 in most tests since multi-core performance isn't as strong. The cache is one advantage, though it's unpredictable. You can try boosting the xeons, but ideally you should also upgrade the Ryzen and Zen models, which consistently reach 4.1 while outpacing the xeons.
And by the way, Zen has been around for about five years now, making it quite affordable used. The boards are also decent; you can usually find a B3/450 model under $60. That applies to games like Pro 4, dropping down to an A320 where you only pay $30 or less when buying at the lowest prices. For the mainboards, even cheaper options from China with reused chipsets are available, and some mainstream models still cost around $60 even on sites like AliExpress. This shows a clear trend—Zen and X99 are trading hands well right now. If you need the cores, go for X99 (like an E5 2670 at about $10 last time). For singlethread with upgrade potential, Zen is the better choice. Oh, and I can’t access AliExpress anymore—it’s downright broken, and the site is completely unusable.
I've seen this too. I've been purchasing from AliExpress for years and have experience with at least six different x99 Chinese branded motherboards. I live in Europe and had no issues with shipping. With the recent drops in Ryzen prices—like a 5600 for $160 and a 3200K for $60—it makes sense to rethink. I didn’t order any x99 combos this summer, which was smart. Now that Zen 3 CPUs are cheaper and the 12th Gen Intel is on par with a new 9-month-old chip, it seems like a better time to upgrade. My mistake was phasing out my main x570+5800X; AMD left me frustrated with sky-high prices for Zen 4 while Intel’s 12th was still competitive. I don’t see much value there. My backup setup is an older x99 board paired with an E5-2699v3 and 32GB RAM, built for $300 plus my Ryzen main build. X99 is here to stay. Still, the big question is: should I wait for the next generation or go with Intel 14th? Zen 4 isn’t worth it, and Intel 13th is just a cheaper alternative but ends up being outdated. So I guess I answered my own question. But I’d love your thoughts.
You dont just buy a 5800x3d and pair with a <60$ used b450 like the pro4? 5800x3d matches zen4 and 13th gen in gaming, no real need to wait for zen4 3d but if you are fine with the backup system for now and can wait a few months then why not ig