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Consider the latest Intel build options: Gen5 PCIe, Gen4 PCIe, and 2x32GB RAM.

Consider the latest Intel build options: Gen5 PCIe, Gen4 PCIe, and 2x32GB RAM.

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12-18-2016, 02:37 AM
#11
I'm setting up a new PC
anyway
.
Whatever processor I choose—i9, Ultra 7/9, Ryzen 9...—it's still a decision.
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ReporterElProh
12-18-2016, 02:37 AM #11

I'm setting up a new PC
anyway
.
Whatever processor I choose—i9, Ultra 7/9, Ryzen 9...—it's still a decision.

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TitooL
Member
117
12-18-2016, 11:14 AM
#12
My stance clearly defined.
Late January or early February might be the time to launch a new Rig.
I’m unsure which of the three options to choose at the moment—only what each brings in terms of performance versus cost, setup, my loyalty to Intel, and the rig’s lifespan can guide me.
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TitooL
12-18-2016, 11:14 AM #12

My stance clearly defined.
Late January or early February might be the time to launch a new Rig.
I’m unsure which of the three options to choose at the moment—only what each brings in terms of performance versus cost, setup, my loyalty to Intel, and the rig’s lifespan can guide me.

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ElSteam55Mc
Junior Member
44
12-18-2016, 11:39 AM
#13
Do not let overly optimistic vendor synthetic SSD ratings mislead you. These are generated using software that forces the SSD to operate at its peak capacity with queue sizes around thirty. They are performed on fresh, unmodified drives to ensure consistency. Most users on desktops tend to focus on just a few actions at once, resulting in queue lengths of one or two. The key factor is response time, especially for random I/O operations. This is primarily managed by the operating system. For that purpose, current SSDs show very similar and quick response times. My advice is to avoid partitioning an SSD. There’s no noticeable performance loss, and it’s likely that one partition will always be full while the other has spare space. Gen5 works, but I question whether the extra cost is justified. I prefer Samsung products because they manufacture their own NAND chips and controllers, allowing better quality control and integration. Many others build SSDs using components from external suppliers. When it comes to RAM, the main priority is securing sufficient capacity upfront. Adding RAM later might not be effective; the speed must match the RAM’s capabilities. Higher RAM speeds can increase latency, which reduces some performance gains. Consider dividing the workload based on the cas size.
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ElSteam55Mc
12-18-2016, 11:39 AM #13

Do not let overly optimistic vendor synthetic SSD ratings mislead you. These are generated using software that forces the SSD to operate at its peak capacity with queue sizes around thirty. They are performed on fresh, unmodified drives to ensure consistency. Most users on desktops tend to focus on just a few actions at once, resulting in queue lengths of one or two. The key factor is response time, especially for random I/O operations. This is primarily managed by the operating system. For that purpose, current SSDs show very similar and quick response times. My advice is to avoid partitioning an SSD. There’s no noticeable performance loss, and it’s likely that one partition will always be full while the other has spare space. Gen5 works, but I question whether the extra cost is justified. I prefer Samsung products because they manufacture their own NAND chips and controllers, allowing better quality control and integration. Many others build SSDs using components from external suppliers. When it comes to RAM, the main priority is securing sufficient capacity upfront. Adding RAM later might not be effective; the speed must match the RAM’s capabilities. Higher RAM speeds can increase latency, which reduces some performance gains. Consider dividing the workload based on the cas size.

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ColtonW612
Junior Member
9
01-08-2017, 10:07 PM
#14
This page compares the CUBE PEN benchmark results for AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D and AMD Ryzen 9 9950X.
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ColtonW612
01-08-2017, 10:07 PM #14

This page compares the CUBE PEN benchmark results for AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D and AMD Ryzen 9 9950X.

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loltribo
Posting Freak
870
01-11-2017, 09:04 AM
#15
Benchmarks operate separately. 8000MT functions properly, no problems detected.
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loltribo
01-11-2017, 09:04 AM #15

Benchmarks operate separately. 8000MT functions properly, no problems detected.

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ljashby
Junior Member
13
01-12-2017, 11:48 PM
#16
9950X3D will arrive soon. Possible Intel change.
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ljashby
01-12-2017, 11:48 PM #16

9950X3D will arrive soon. Possible Intel change.

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Draconblade
Member
54
01-13-2017, 03:37 AM
#17
We shall see.
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Draconblade
01-13-2017, 03:37 AM #17

We shall see.

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Ward12
Posting Freak
895
01-13-2017, 05:05 AM
#18
During my afternoon research, I compared several statistics and noticed most of them align closely—many suppliers use identical components.
I discovered a particular option that appears to be the top choice.
Would anyone have thoughts or recommendations that could improve its performance?
MSI Spatium M580 Pro Frozr
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Ward12
01-13-2017, 05:05 AM #18

During my afternoon research, I compared several statistics and noticed most of them align closely—many suppliers use identical components.
I discovered a particular option that appears to be the top choice.
Would anyone have thoughts or recommendations that could improve its performance?
MSI Spatium M580 Pro Frozr

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lucarich
Member
133
01-13-2017, 09:22 AM
#19
I believe that,
in everyday consumer use,
you wouldn't notice any significant performance variation among leading brands.
Samsung, Crucial, WD, MSI....
It's like choosing a car: you only check the advertised top speed.
One vehicle might claim 155mph, another 158mph.
Clearly, the quicker model is considered superior, isn't it?
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lucarich
01-13-2017, 09:22 AM #19

I believe that,
in everyday consumer use,
you wouldn't notice any significant performance variation among leading brands.
Samsung, Crucial, WD, MSI....
It's like choosing a car: you only check the advertised top speed.
One vehicle might claim 155mph, another 158mph.
Clearly, the quicker model is considered superior, isn't it?

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Palmox
Member
134
01-13-2017, 11:46 AM
#20
I somewhat agree with this approach. It’s why I tend to focus on the top six models.
This one aligns with the speeds I’ve observed, while offering a 2M hour MTBF, roughly 15% higher than most alternatives.
The other key consideration will be cost, especially when purchasing.
If performance improves only slightly—say by 2% or 3% but becomes 15% more expensive—I’ll consider other choices.
Typical pricing for S-Read and S-Write models is around:
14,100 / 12,600
14,000 / 12,000
12,400 / 11,800
Based on these figures, I’d opt for the top option, as suggested.
If it seems too expensive compared to the 14,000 / 12,000 models—especially if they were on sale—I’d prefer that instead.
12,400 / 11,800 would then fall short of the performance I’m targeting, so I’d likely skip it unless the price was exceptionally attractive.
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Palmox
01-13-2017, 11:46 AM #20

I somewhat agree with this approach. It’s why I tend to focus on the top six models.
This one aligns with the speeds I’ve observed, while offering a 2M hour MTBF, roughly 15% higher than most alternatives.
The other key consideration will be cost, especially when purchasing.
If performance improves only slightly—say by 2% or 3% but becomes 15% more expensive—I’ll consider other choices.
Typical pricing for S-Read and S-Write models is around:
14,100 / 12,600
14,000 / 12,000
12,400 / 11,800
Based on these figures, I’d opt for the top option, as suggested.
If it seems too expensive compared to the 14,000 / 12,000 models—especially if they were on sale—I’d prefer that instead.
12,400 / 11,800 would then fall short of the performance I’m targeting, so I’d likely skip it unless the price was exceptionally attractive.

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