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Consider switching to AM5 or upgrading to X3D.

Consider switching to AM5 or upgrading to X3D.

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Pickmaster12
Senior Member
710
07-12-2022, 12:14 PM
#1
I am currently setting up a first-generation Ryzen system.
The motherboard is MSi X370 Gaming Plus, paired with a Ryzen 7 1700 processor.
I have 16 GB of DDR4 memory running at 2400mhz, a RX 6600 graphics card, and a 620W Seasonic SII power supply.
My CPU was damaged in the past, and even after fixing the pins, it still shows signs of lasting damage. Since then, the PC has been quite unstable, so I finally felt it was time to upgrade...
I’ve only heard concerns about early AM5 adoption, but when I was just starting with AM4, I never faced any problems up to now.
My available choices are either updating the board’s BIOS and installing a 5800 X3D chip, possibly adding faster RAM to match the board’s 3200mhz, or switching completely to the new AM5 platform, which is significantly more expensive in my country currency.
The 5800 X3D would cost around 375 USD (about 350,000 CLP), while the AM5 options include the R5 7600X, Gigabyte B650M-H, Gskill 5600mhz 32GB, and a new quiet PSU of 750W.
Also worth mentioning is that I currently play at 75fps and 2560x1080p, and I don’t want to exceed those settings. I’m addicted to ultra-wide gaming, have no suitable upgrades nearby, and this GPU fits my needs perfectly. However, my current system is already quite old.
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Pickmaster12
07-12-2022, 12:14 PM #1

I am currently setting up a first-generation Ryzen system.
The motherboard is MSi X370 Gaming Plus, paired with a Ryzen 7 1700 processor.
I have 16 GB of DDR4 memory running at 2400mhz, a RX 6600 graphics card, and a 620W Seasonic SII power supply.
My CPU was damaged in the past, and even after fixing the pins, it still shows signs of lasting damage. Since then, the PC has been quite unstable, so I finally felt it was time to upgrade...
I’ve only heard concerns about early AM5 adoption, but when I was just starting with AM4, I never faced any problems up to now.
My available choices are either updating the board’s BIOS and installing a 5800 X3D chip, possibly adding faster RAM to match the board’s 3200mhz, or switching completely to the new AM5 platform, which is significantly more expensive in my country currency.
The 5800 X3D would cost around 375 USD (about 350,000 CLP), while the AM5 options include the R5 7600X, Gigabyte B650M-H, Gskill 5600mhz 32GB, and a new quiet PSU of 750W.
Also worth mentioning is that I currently play at 75fps and 2560x1080p, and I don’t want to exceed those settings. I’m addicted to ultra-wide gaming, have no suitable upgrades nearby, and this GPU fits my needs perfectly. However, my current system is already quite old.

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NovoMinee
Member
73
07-12-2022, 12:23 PM
#2
Even a 5700X with a slight reduction would make a big difference. Adding around 3200 MT/s memory seems like a solid approach for me.
The RX6600 won't shatter any FPS records, and if you're stuck at 75hz or 75FPS, the CPU becomes less critical.
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NovoMinee
07-12-2022, 12:23 PM #2

Even a 5700X with a slight reduction would make a big difference. Adding around 3200 MT/s memory seems like a solid approach for me.
The RX6600 won't shatter any FPS records, and if you're stuck at 75hz or 75FPS, the CPU becomes less critical.

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EyesScreamCone
Junior Member
40
07-15-2022, 09:59 PM
#3
I play certain games that really tax the CPU, such as Guild Wars 2. Currently, I'm experiencing severe stuttering on the 1700, even though the 6600 can handle much higher frequencies.
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EyesScreamCone
07-15-2022, 09:59 PM #3

I play certain games that really tax the CPU, such as Guild Wars 2. Currently, I'm experiencing severe stuttering on the 1700, even though the 6600 can handle much higher frequencies.

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lewmas17
Member
78
07-16-2022, 01:23 AM
#4
My findings suggest that GW2 isn't well threaded and depends mainly on one thread.
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lewmas17
07-16-2022, 01:23 AM #4

My findings suggest that GW2 isn't well threaded and depends mainly on one thread.

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CyonaticGant
Junior Member
46
07-16-2022, 04:22 PM
#5
I upgraded from an R7 1800X to an R7 5700X on a MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium some time back. A huge improvement in gaming...! Although this board is considered one of the best in its class, I didn’t choose the more powerful CPUs from the 5000-series. It’s mentioned that the VRM units can be a bit more fragile, though not much in gaming terms, but if you engage in heavier tasks like video rendering, it might be better. The R5 5600X could be a safer option. This model has only 6 cores and 65W, but it still offers performance close to the 5700X/5800X in gaming...

There was a real case of an R5 5600X last year, but this model is only available at US Micro Center stores. You might find it on eBay. In August there will be a real case of the R7 5700X3D...

Anyway, invest in upgrading your rig to extend its lifespan. Consider a replacement to keep it running longer. That’s the spirit of good AMD engineering...
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CyonaticGant
07-16-2022, 04:22 PM #5

I upgraded from an R7 1800X to an R7 5700X on a MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium some time back. A huge improvement in gaming...! Although this board is considered one of the best in its class, I didn’t choose the more powerful CPUs from the 5000-series. It’s mentioned that the VRM units can be a bit more fragile, though not much in gaming terms, but if you engage in heavier tasks like video rendering, it might be better. The R5 5600X could be a safer option. This model has only 6 cores and 65W, but it still offers performance close to the 5700X/5800X in gaming...

There was a real case of an R5 5600X last year, but this model is only available at US Micro Center stores. You might find it on eBay. In August there will be a real case of the R7 5700X3D...

Anyway, invest in upgrading your rig to extend its lifespan. Consider a replacement to keep it running longer. That’s the spirit of good AMD engineering...

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martims098
Member
193
07-18-2022, 02:17 PM
#6
In terms of gaming, this benchmark list may misrepresent the situation. The 7 5800X3D is likely to deliver performance on par with or superior to the 9 5950X, especially in terms of frames per second.
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martims098
07-18-2022, 02:17 PM #6

In terms of gaming, this benchmark list may misrepresent the situation. The 7 5800X3D is likely to deliver performance on par with or superior to the 9 5950X, especially in terms of frames per second.

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DorYosef
Junior Member
20
07-28-2022, 05:16 PM
#7
I question whether any 300 chipset series MB can fully utilize BIOS to maximize x3D processors. They also require rapid RAM for optimal performance, which the 300 series MBs struggle with.
R7 5700x seems like the best choice, offering good power efficiency and cooling, and handling game settings adequately, though your GPU might still be a limitation.
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DorYosef
07-28-2022, 05:16 PM #7

I question whether any 300 chipset series MB can fully utilize BIOS to maximize x3D processors. They also require rapid RAM for optimal performance, which the 300 series MBs struggle with.
R7 5700x seems like the best choice, offering good power efficiency and cooling, and handling game settings adequately, though your GPU might still be a limitation.

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KindOfAKing
Member
228
07-28-2022, 10:46 PM
#8
The cost per frame means you don't need the x3d chip for GPUs below 4070Ti. It's better to save that budget for upgrading your GPU later. I'd recommend giving the AM4 platform a final upgrade to R5 5600 (or R7 5700x if you have more funds), as it will last for about two years. By then, AM5 CPUs and memory will be significantly cheaper.
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KindOfAKing
07-28-2022, 10:46 PM #8

The cost per frame means you don't need the x3d chip for GPUs below 4070Ti. It's better to save that budget for upgrading your GPU later. I'd recommend giving the AM4 platform a final upgrade to R5 5600 (or R7 5700x if you have more funds), as it will last for about two years. By then, AM5 CPUs and memory will be significantly cheaper.

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Ghostiepie
Member
55
08-05-2022, 03:00 AM
#9
if gaming is your main focus, 5800X3D is definitely the choice.
Check the Guild Wars 2 benchmarks to determine if you gain a lot from the X3D cache and make your own decision.
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Ghostiepie
08-05-2022, 03:00 AM #9

if gaming is your main focus, 5800X3D is definitely the choice.
Check the Guild Wars 2 benchmarks to determine if you gain a lot from the X3D cache and make your own decision.

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1234qaz12qaz
Posting Freak
773
08-05-2022, 06:15 AM
#10
What kind of CPU cooler are you using?
If your current power supply unit is a S12II, it’s likely time to upgrade.
For AM5 motherboards, the board you choose is a poor option and should be avoided.
If you’re committed to AM5, this article will help you identify the right specifications (or find a suitable board within your budget):
https://www.techspot.com/review/2699-amd...herboards/
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1234qaz12qaz
08-05-2022, 06:15 AM #10

What kind of CPU cooler are you using?
If your current power supply unit is a S12II, it’s likely time to upgrade.
For AM5 motherboards, the board you choose is a poor option and should be avoided.
If you’re committed to AM5, this article will help you identify the right specifications (or find a suitable board within your budget):
https://www.techspot.com/review/2699-amd...herboards/

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