F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Consider PCIe 4.0 now or wait for the 5.0 that promises "hey, I’m almost here too, and I bring better DDR5"?

Consider PCIe 4.0 now or wait for the 5.0 that promises "hey, I’m almost here too, and I bring better DDR5"?

Consider PCIe 4.0 now or wait for the 5.0 that promises "hey, I’m almost here too, and I bring better DDR5"?

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DJSplashy
Junior Member
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11-17-2022, 04:02 PM
#1
Hello everyone, I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to clarify something—I'm not very comfortable with posting much, so please forgive any mistakes. As the title suggests, I'm thinking about whether it's better to wait for PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 or go with PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 right now. I tend to buy more advanced components to ensure they last longer, and I'm concerned about potential delays like chip shortages and price hikes. If I plan to upgrade in 2023, would it be smarter to wait a bit longer for the next generation instead of rushing into PCIe 4.0 with DDR4? If PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 are already available, then choosing PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 feels more like an upgrade than a necessary update for my needs. Thanks for your time, and I apologize if my English isn't clear.
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DJSplashy
11-17-2022, 04:02 PM #1

Hello everyone, I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to clarify something—I'm not very comfortable with posting much, so please forgive any mistakes. As the title suggests, I'm thinking about whether it's better to wait for PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 or go with PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 right now. I tend to buy more advanced components to ensure they last longer, and I'm concerned about potential delays like chip shortages and price hikes. If I plan to upgrade in 2023, would it be smarter to wait a bit longer for the next generation instead of rushing into PCIe 4.0 with DDR4? If PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 are already available, then choosing PCIe 4.0 and DDR4 feels more like an upgrade than a necessary update for my needs. Thanks for your time, and I apologize if my English isn't clear.

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Ametera
Member
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11-25-2022, 03:35 PM
#2
No specific project is outlined for the next five years, but both PCIe 5 and DDR5 are commonly needed for high-performance computing, data centers, and advanced gaming systems.
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Ametera
11-25-2022, 03:35 PM #2

No specific project is outlined for the next five years, but both PCIe 5 and DDR5 are commonly needed for high-performance computing, data centers, and advanced gaming systems.

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Bibble_Ele
Senior Member
447
12-03-2022, 05:02 AM
#3
Being an early adopter usually means higher costs for less refined hardware. Of course, it will last longer since it's newer, but how much more effective is it compared to DDR4/PCIe 4.0? DDR5 might be costly in the short term because of both early adoption and a shift in power delivery design that pushes expenses onto the RAM, resulting in pricier systems. I've built a PC that works well and I expect it to keep performing solidly for at least another three to four years before needing a major GPU upgrade. No worries about that, even though I invested in a platform that's not really going anywhere. My suggestion? Hold off until the restrictions on Alder Lake and Zen 3+ are lifted. That way you can make a better choice. If you're focused on saving money, PCIe 5.0 or DDR5 probably won't offer much advantage over what we have today. This is just a quick reminder that even PCIe 4.0 graphics barely fill the PCIe 3.0 bandwidth.
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Bibble_Ele
12-03-2022, 05:02 AM #3

Being an early adopter usually means higher costs for less refined hardware. Of course, it will last longer since it's newer, but how much more effective is it compared to DDR4/PCIe 4.0? DDR5 might be costly in the short term because of both early adoption and a shift in power delivery design that pushes expenses onto the RAM, resulting in pricier systems. I've built a PC that works well and I expect it to keep performing solidly for at least another three to four years before needing a major GPU upgrade. No worries about that, even though I invested in a platform that's not really going anywhere. My suggestion? Hold off until the restrictions on Alder Lake and Zen 3+ are lifted. That way you can make a better choice. If you're focused on saving money, PCIe 5.0 or DDR5 probably won't offer much advantage over what we have today. This is just a quick reminder that even PCIe 4.0 graphics barely fill the PCIe 3.0 bandwidth.

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syokugeki
Junior Member
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12-04-2022, 03:43 AM
#4
I handle everything smoothly using PCIe 4 and DDR4.
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syokugeki
12-04-2022, 03:43 AM #4

I handle everything smoothly using PCIe 4 and DDR4.

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_Wild_Dog_
Member
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12-04-2022, 05:22 AM
#5
Yes, here is your answer.
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_Wild_Dog_
12-04-2022, 05:22 AM #5

Yes, here is your answer.

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iKegreenS_
Posting Freak
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12-04-2022, 05:52 AM
#6
Yes, I can handle everything with PCIe 4 and DDR4. Since my system is from 2017, it makes sense that some components may degrade over time. To prevent issues, selling parts and buying a new setup seems reasonable. If PCIe 5.0 offers double the speed of PCIe 4.0, would it be worth the investment? I’d pay about 1.5 times more for PCIe 5.0, but I’m curious if that would exceed a twofold increase in cost compared to PCIe 4.0.
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iKegreenS_
12-04-2022, 05:52 AM #6

Yes, I can handle everything with PCIe 4 and DDR4. Since my system is from 2017, it makes sense that some components may degrade over time. To prevent issues, selling parts and buying a new setup seems reasonable. If PCIe 5.0 offers double the speed of PCIe 4.0, would it be worth the investment? I’d pay about 1.5 times more for PCIe 5.0, but I’m curious if that would exceed a twofold increase in cost compared to PCIe 4.0.

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Dr_Fred
Member
206
12-13-2022, 08:46 AM
#7
I'm getting the impression you may think bus speed somehow relates to the entire speed of the computer but may not be aware that bus speed has nothing to do with component speed. Meaning a component supporting a higher bus speed isn't automatically faster. Much in the same way how currently a pci-e 3.0 and 4.0 bus aren't actually noticeably different from each other outside of benchmarks or spec sheets. Is that what's happening? You may be thinking a pci-e 5.0 bus represents some huge leap in technology?
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Dr_Fred
12-13-2022, 08:46 AM #7

I'm getting the impression you may think bus speed somehow relates to the entire speed of the computer but may not be aware that bus speed has nothing to do with component speed. Meaning a component supporting a higher bus speed isn't automatically faster. Much in the same way how currently a pci-e 3.0 and 4.0 bus aren't actually noticeably different from each other outside of benchmarks or spec sheets. Is that what's happening? You may be thinking a pci-e 5.0 bus represents some huge leap in technology?

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Goljat12
Member
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12-13-2022, 08:55 AM
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Goljat12
12-13-2022, 08:55 AM #8

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Pixelspeed139
Junior Member
28
12-20-2022, 06:27 PM
#9
I'm not capable of that. What's on your mind?
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Pixelspeed139
12-20-2022, 06:27 PM #9

I'm not capable of that. What's on your mind?

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the5harkman
Senior Member
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01-07-2023, 02:10 PM
#10
I'm exactly where you are, buddy.
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the5harkman
01-07-2023, 02:10 PM #10

I'm exactly where you are, buddy.

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