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Consider CPU and RAM upgrades for your motherboard.

Consider CPU and RAM upgrades for your motherboard.

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07-26-2016, 02:04 PM
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Thanks Ravas, I guess the real issue here is that I don't know what I want. I don't think i've ever bought a computer new and have only ever scraped by with whatever prebuilt i could pull from the dumpster. I'm just now getting into purchasing individual components and putting something decent together. I've been doing research and reading plenty but there's so much to learn i figured i'd reach out and see what the community had to say. I understand that there is nothing "wrong" with my current setup but for me I know i'm not going to afford a 9600K and a 2080TI and i don't need that I just know that my 2nd gen intel chip is bottlenecking my system at the moment and if i could go up 2 or 3 generations I'll get that many more years out of it. Thanks
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commander_mais
07-26-2016, 02:04 PM #11

Thanks Ravas, I guess the real issue here is that I don't know what I want. I don't think i've ever bought a computer new and have only ever scraped by with whatever prebuilt i could pull from the dumpster. I'm just now getting into purchasing individual components and putting something decent together. I've been doing research and reading plenty but there's so much to learn i figured i'd reach out and see what the community had to say. I understand that there is nothing "wrong" with my current setup but for me I know i'm not going to afford a 9600K and a 2080TI and i don't need that I just know that my 2nd gen intel chip is bottlenecking my system at the moment and if i could go up 2 or 3 generations I'll get that many more years out of it. Thanks

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Maluwtf
Junior Member
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08-03-2016, 06:47 AM
#12
It's unclear if an i5 9400F paired with a MSI Z390-APro is worth it for $250, especially since both models have solid reviews. Since you're unfamiliar with the setup, it might be wise to explore other options before deciding.
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Maluwtf
08-03-2016, 06:47 AM #12

It's unclear if an i5 9400F paired with a MSI Z390-APro is worth it for $250, especially since both models have solid reviews. Since you're unfamiliar with the setup, it might be wise to explore other options before deciding.

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axel_76120
Junior Member
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08-03-2016, 03:38 PM
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The 3300x with B450 matches a 9400 with Z390 in performance, but offers a stronger upgrade route. All Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000 models (not yet released) are compatible, whereas the Z390 is no longer available.
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axel_76120
08-03-2016, 03:38 PM #13

The 3300x with B450 matches a 9400 with Z390 in performance, but offers a stronger upgrade route. All Ryzen 1000, 2000, 3000 and 4000 models (not yet released) are compatible, whereas the Z390 is no longer available.

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chickentrot
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08-05-2016, 11:57 AM
#14
Yes, it also indicates that the system isn<|pad|>, operating at 90% capacity. That’s still a high usage level with only a small gap to reach full performance. I’m not claiming a better CPU won’t help, but at $250, it seems worthwhile.
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chickentrot
08-05-2016, 11:57 AM #14

Yes, it also indicates that the system isn<|pad|>, operating at 90% capacity. That’s still a high usage level with only a small gap to reach full performance. I’m not claiming a better CPU won’t help, but at $250, it seems worthwhile.

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cursino_8
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08-05-2016, 09:40 PM
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Occasionally programs or games struggle to fully use the CPU. When the GPU is under 80% load and the CPU is above 80-90%, the CPU is limiting performance.
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cursino_8
08-05-2016, 09:40 PM #15

Occasionally programs or games struggle to fully use the CPU. When the GPU is under 80% load and the CPU is above 80-90%, the CPU is limiting performance.

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master_kingl
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08-07-2016, 01:54 PM
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It's not exactly how the CPU functions. The game doesn't need 100% processing power; it's the processor handling data as much as possible. If a game demands 2000 calculations per frame—say—and the CPU provides 2200, it will operate around 90% capacity. If the game needs more than what the CPU can supply, it will slow down because the processor becomes a bottleneck. Not everyone agrees, though. Some might think upgrading the system would help, but if the performance doesn't improve, it's hard to justify spending money. A big upgrade makes sense when you have the funds; strong CPU, better RAM, solid motherboard are all good. But swapping in something like a Ryzen 3 instead of an i5 2nd gen might not make a noticeable difference for someone who can only save 250 dollars. It's better to wait and invest more if you really want the difference. Or look for something more appealing than a Ryzen 3 or an older i7 for that price.
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master_kingl
08-07-2016, 01:54 PM #16

It's not exactly how the CPU functions. The game doesn't need 100% processing power; it's the processor handling data as much as possible. If a game demands 2000 calculations per frame—say—and the CPU provides 2200, it will operate around 90% capacity. If the game needs more than what the CPU can supply, it will slow down because the processor becomes a bottleneck. Not everyone agrees, though. Some might think upgrading the system would help, but if the performance doesn't improve, it's hard to justify spending money. A big upgrade makes sense when you have the funds; strong CPU, better RAM, solid motherboard are all good. But swapping in something like a Ryzen 3 instead of an i5 2nd gen might not make a noticeable difference for someone who can only save 250 dollars. It's better to wait and invest more if you really want the difference. Or look for something more appealing than a Ryzen 3 or an older i7 for that price.

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