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Consider a fresh upgrade for your system. Look into compatible RAM options that fit your setup.

Consider a fresh upgrade for your system. Look into compatible RAM options that fit your setup.

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xTripleMinerx
Posting Freak
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12-07-2022, 07:37 AM
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Hello, I recently upgraded my PC with a new RAM module. At first, I bought a 2x8GB package and assumed it would fit perfectly. Following recommendations from build guides, I used the same type of sticks—all four slots filled, totaling 32GB. However, after installing another identical set (as described in the specifications), I encountered frequent crashes, BSODs, and restarts. Upon checking, it seemed the issue stemmed from variations in batch numbers or possibly insufficient memory for my controller. I returned the faulty RAM and considered selling the original kit on the used market. Instead, I plan to purchase a single 2x16GB dual-channel unit, aiming for better stability. I’m avoiding anything overly expensive or complicated, just seeking a reliable option. But now that I’ve faced this RAM challenge, I’m unsure what to choose next. Here’s a quick rundown of what I found (from lowest to highest price): Kingston FURY Beast 32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 ADATA XPG Gammix D35 32GB DDR4 3600MHz CL18, Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB DDR4 3600MHz CL16. There were also some from G.Skill and Patriot, though they’re quite costly. Corsair Vengeance kits are popular but not ideal after my experience. My questions: Should it be strictly quality-controlled? The selection list is limited—most options are either very pricey or outdated. In my area, many of these are no longer available. Are Kingston and ADATA suitable for AMD? Is Corsair a better alternative than both? Any community insights? On AMD’s site, they suggest max 2x1/2R DDR4-3200 for CPU RAM, but 3600 should work fine. Some listings even mention models rated for 3600 or higher. In short, I’m leaning toward the Kingston Renegades—fast and affordable. Thoughts welcome! PC specs: Windows 10 22H2, AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5GHz (2022), ID-Cooling SE-224-XT V2 Black RAM, Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB DDR4 3600MHz CL18 Dual Channel, ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming, Seasonic B12 BC Series PSU, WD Blue SN570 SSDs.
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xTripleMinerx
12-07-2022, 07:37 AM #1

Hello, I recently upgraded my PC with a new RAM module. At first, I bought a 2x8GB package and assumed it would fit perfectly. Following recommendations from build guides, I used the same type of sticks—all four slots filled, totaling 32GB. However, after installing another identical set (as described in the specifications), I encountered frequent crashes, BSODs, and restarts. Upon checking, it seemed the issue stemmed from variations in batch numbers or possibly insufficient memory for my controller. I returned the faulty RAM and considered selling the original kit on the used market. Instead, I plan to purchase a single 2x16GB dual-channel unit, aiming for better stability. I’m avoiding anything overly expensive or complicated, just seeking a reliable option. But now that I’ve faced this RAM challenge, I’m unsure what to choose next. Here’s a quick rundown of what I found (from lowest to highest price): Kingston FURY Beast 32GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16 ADATA XPG Gammix D35 32GB DDR4 3600MHz CL18, Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB DDR4 3600MHz CL16. There were also some from G.Skill and Patriot, though they’re quite costly. Corsair Vengeance kits are popular but not ideal after my experience. My questions: Should it be strictly quality-controlled? The selection list is limited—most options are either very pricey or outdated. In my area, many of these are no longer available. Are Kingston and ADATA suitable for AMD? Is Corsair a better alternative than both? Any community insights? On AMD’s site, they suggest max 2x1/2R DDR4-3200 for CPU RAM, but 3600 should work fine. Some listings even mention models rated for 3600 or higher. In short, I’m leaning toward the Kingston Renegades—fast and affordable. Thoughts welcome! PC specs: Windows 10 22H2, AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5GHz (2022), ID-Cooling SE-224-XT V2 Black RAM, Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB DDR4 3600MHz CL18 Dual Channel, ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming, Seasonic B12 BC Series PSU, WD Blue SN570 SSDs.

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Natty77
Junior Member
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12-08-2022, 12:53 PM
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Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB DDR4 3600MHz CL16 answers all your concerns with confidence. No need to worry about quality or performance—what they tested is real. ADATA RAM works perfectly, and you don’t have to stress about being on QVL. A 2x16 3600 setup will work fine with a 5600, and the memory controller handles it well.
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Natty77
12-08-2022, 12:53 PM #2

Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB DDR4 3600MHz CL16 answers all your concerns with confidence. No need to worry about quality or performance—what they tested is real. ADATA RAM works perfectly, and you don’t have to stress about being on QVL. A 2x16 3600 setup will work fine with a 5600, and the memory controller handles it well.

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rocky1517
Junior Member
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12-08-2022, 02:16 PM
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2x16GB memory modules delivering 3600MT/s speeds, featuring either CL16 or CL18 CAS latency settings. The 3600 CL16 configuration might cause problems on AM4 boards, especially when paired with non-X CPUs such as the 5600.
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rocky1517
12-08-2022, 02:16 PM #3

2x16GB memory modules delivering 3600MT/s speeds, featuring either CL16 or CL18 CAS latency settings. The 3600 CL16 configuration might cause problems on AM4 boards, especially when paired with non-X CPUs such as the 5600.

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Texas1047
Posting Freak
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12-08-2022, 03:16 PM
#4
QVLs aren't complete lists; they're rarely updated and few kits fail completely. They all perform adequately. In fact, my Adata kit is the top overclocking RAM I own. Corsair sometimes struggles with XMP settings, but that's not a widespread problem. Yes, 3600 MHz is achievable. Most chips reach around 3800MT/s in single-issue mode, and skipping that can push you past 4800 if your board supports it. For the 3200 CL16, it's the most affordable option. A performance boost exists, but the high-end Ryzen CPUs like the 5600 don't gain much from faster RAM unless you're in quad rank mode. Spending more than needed on an AM4 platform doesn't seem worthwhile since it's outdated. ??? Where have you encountered that? Excluding tRCD, timing isn't impacted by IMC, and none of these kits have a precise enough tRCD to raise concerns. Speed is the key factor IMC focuses on, and unless you're targeting top-tier memory, you'll likely hit DDR4 4000+ on nearly all Ryzen 3000/5000 chips (even without 1:1 mode). Also, AMD doesn't customize memory controllers, so the 5600 will match the 5950X in IMC.
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Texas1047
12-08-2022, 03:16 PM #4

QVLs aren't complete lists; they're rarely updated and few kits fail completely. They all perform adequately. In fact, my Adata kit is the top overclocking RAM I own. Corsair sometimes struggles with XMP settings, but that's not a widespread problem. Yes, 3600 MHz is achievable. Most chips reach around 3800MT/s in single-issue mode, and skipping that can push you past 4800 if your board supports it. For the 3200 CL16, it's the most affordable option. A performance boost exists, but the high-end Ryzen CPUs like the 5600 don't gain much from faster RAM unless you're in quad rank mode. Spending more than needed on an AM4 platform doesn't seem worthwhile since it's outdated. ??? Where have you encountered that? Excluding tRCD, timing isn't impacted by IMC, and none of these kits have a precise enough tRCD to raise concerns. Speed is the key factor IMC focuses on, and unless you're targeting top-tier memory, you'll likely hit DDR4 4000+ on nearly all Ryzen 3000/5000 chips (even without 1:1 mode). Also, AMD doesn't customize memory controllers, so the 5600 will match the 5950X in IMC.

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PimQ1
Member
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12-09-2022, 02:44 AM
#5
Higher likelihood of stable performance at 3600 at CL18 versus CL16. 3200 CL16 is similar to CL14. As mentioned before, running 3200@CL14 or 3600@CL16 can be aggressive for AM4. While AMD likely doesn't place I/O dies near the memory controllers, increasing FCLK/MCLK/UCLK to 1800MHz still carries instability risks if you're already pushing clock speeds to 1800MHz. Assuming your 5600 is a single CPU core, dual CCD R5/R7 configurations would probably offer less stability at that frequency compared to higher options. @Rrraaayyy ADATA XPG Gammix D35 32GB DDR4 3600MHz gets my support. Even on Newegg, I’m mostly seeing CL18 models among the 3600MT/sec listings.
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PimQ1
12-09-2022, 02:44 AM #5

Higher likelihood of stable performance at 3600 at CL18 versus CL16. 3200 CL16 is similar to CL14. As mentioned before, running 3200@CL14 or 3600@CL16 can be aggressive for AM4. While AMD likely doesn't place I/O dies near the memory controllers, increasing FCLK/MCLK/UCLK to 1800MHz still carries instability risks if you're already pushing clock speeds to 1800MHz. Assuming your 5600 is a single CPU core, dual CCD R5/R7 configurations would probably offer less stability at that frequency compared to higher options. @Rrraaayyy ADATA XPG Gammix D35 32GB DDR4 3600MHz gets my support. Even on Newegg, I’m mostly seeing CL18 models among the 3600MT/sec listings.

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Just_Senya
Member
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12-11-2022, 02:38 AM
#6
The memory controller doesn't influence CAS latency stability; that responsibility lies with the memory kits themselves. If you're investing in a superior kit, expect better performance. This statement seems less relevant at the moment. While faster memory speeds are beneficial, they aren't the main factor here. I'm not aware of any instance where CL14 didn't function on AM4 when CAS latency doesn't impact IMC stability—only higher speeds and, especially for Intel, lower tRCD matter. What truly counts is whether the memory sticks can handle it, which should be assured with a higher-rated kit. Dual CCD R5/R7 CPUs aren't common since Ryzen 2000; dual CCX designs existed with Ryzen 3000, but FCLK became less critical, especially on Ryzen 5000 where speed effects were minimized.
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Just_Senya
12-11-2022, 02:38 AM #6

The memory controller doesn't influence CAS latency stability; that responsibility lies with the memory kits themselves. If you're investing in a superior kit, expect better performance. This statement seems less relevant at the moment. While faster memory speeds are beneficial, they aren't the main factor here. I'm not aware of any instance where CL14 didn't function on AM4 when CAS latency doesn't impact IMC stability—only higher speeds and, especially for Intel, lower tRCD matter. What truly counts is whether the memory sticks can handle it, which should be assured with a higher-rated kit. Dual CCD R5/R7 CPUs aren't common since Ryzen 2000; dual CCX designs existed with Ryzen 3000, but FCLK became less critical, especially on Ryzen 5000 where speed effects were minimized.

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Der_Zwieback
Member
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12-11-2022, 03:50 AM
#7
Seems most issues with 3600 CL16 kits stem from it applying incorrect voltage when XMP is enabled. Make sure DRAM voltage is at 1.5V. An AGESA update led to instability on Ryzen 5000 with specific XMP profiles—this didn’t affect Ryzen 3000. Enabling XMP might also push the SoC voltage too high, causing stability problems. Counter this with an AMD slide showing my previous argument. If the kit is unstable, verify DRAM and SoC voltages, and consider updating UEFI (AGESA appears resolved now).
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Der_Zwieback
12-11-2022, 03:50 AM #7

Seems most issues with 3600 CL16 kits stem from it applying incorrect voltage when XMP is enabled. Make sure DRAM voltage is at 1.5V. An AGESA update led to instability on Ryzen 5000 with specific XMP profiles—this didn’t affect Ryzen 3000. Enabling XMP might also push the SoC voltage too high, causing stability problems. Counter this with an AMD slide showing my previous argument. If the kit is unstable, verify DRAM and SoC voltages, and consider updating UEFI (AGESA appears resolved now).

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7frostwolf
Junior Member
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12-11-2022, 08:57 AM
#8
Thanks everyone, I picked up a few new ideas today too. I'm choosing the ADATA XPG 3600Mhz because it's only about $4 more than the 3200Mhz version.
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7frostwolf
12-11-2022, 08:57 AM #8

Thanks everyone, I picked up a few new ideas today too. I'm choosing the ADATA XPG 3600Mhz because it's only about $4 more than the 3200Mhz version.