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Concept for a high-power PoE network switch with 3000W capacity

Concept for a high-power PoE network switch with 3000W capacity

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Chatter
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04-28-2016, 12:51 PM
#1
It seems like you're highlighting a significant amount of capability from an Ethernet cable. Just a reminder, PoE++ type 4 can reach up to 100W per port (with 51-57V) and the device power limit is around 71W. Keep it safe!
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Chatter
04-28-2016, 12:51 PM #1

It seems like you're highlighting a significant amount of capability from an Ethernet cable. Just a reminder, PoE++ type 4 can reach up to 100W per port (with 51-57V) and the device power limit is around 71W. Keep it safe!

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Dotaka
Junior Member
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05-03-2016, 11:36 AM
#2
The PoE++ standard limits power delivery to 90W per port since that’s the maximum safely supported by the entire 4-pair setup (all 8 conductors) of a Cat6a cable designed for those specs. Going over this limit would risk damage or performance issues. While a more powerful cable could theoretically handle higher outputs, Ethernet solutions need adaptability across different scenarios. In theory, a 48-port switch with PoE++ on every port could deliver up to 4320W. Still, aiming for 3kW in a compact 1U space remains feasible. Note: The reasoning behind the 90/100W cap often considers how individual cables manage heat when bundled, not just isolated runs.
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Dotaka
05-03-2016, 11:36 AM #2

The PoE++ standard limits power delivery to 90W per port since that’s the maximum safely supported by the entire 4-pair setup (all 8 conductors) of a Cat6a cable designed for those specs. Going over this limit would risk damage or performance issues. While a more powerful cable could theoretically handle higher outputs, Ethernet solutions need adaptability across different scenarios. In theory, a 48-port switch with PoE++ on every port could deliver up to 4320W. Still, aiming for 3kW in a compact 1U space remains feasible. Note: The reasoning behind the 90/100W cap often considers how individual cables manage heat when bundled, not just isolated runs.

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Amtrak10
Senior Member
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05-10-2016, 03:11 PM
#3
You're correct in your assessment. I estimated that a 23AWG wire could support 4 amps across two solid-core conductors, though those are just theoretical limits. In practice, we'll likely use standard two-wire cables with RS-485 or similar protocols because they're more cost-effective and allow higher current capacity per cable. RJ45 and PoE options seem promising since the cables are affordable and common, but reducing output power to match PoE++ Type 4 would require significantly more output nodes, which could be expensive. A 24 or 48-port switch supporting 100W PoE++ on each port might be worth considering, though it would put us in direct competition with larger companies. Overall, your input was valuable.
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Amtrak10
05-10-2016, 03:11 PM #3

You're correct in your assessment. I estimated that a 23AWG wire could support 4 amps across two solid-core conductors, though those are just theoretical limits. In practice, we'll likely use standard two-wire cables with RS-485 or similar protocols because they're more cost-effective and allow higher current capacity per cable. RJ45 and PoE options seem promising since the cables are affordable and common, but reducing output power to match PoE++ Type 4 would require significantly more output nodes, which could be expensive. A 24 or 48-port switch supporting 100W PoE++ on each port might be worth considering, though it would put us in direct competition with larger companies. Overall, your input was valuable.