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Comparison of Intel 11th Gen CPUs Z490 and Z590

Comparison of Intel 11th Gen CPUs Z490 and Z590

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ImSilva_Pt
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09-05-2021, 08:05 PM
#1
I see this as a guess based on current info. Beyond BIOS upgrades, what could make a Z590 better than a Z490? It looks like most Z490s also work with PCIe 4.0 hardware, so the real factor is finding a CPU that supports it. If you can update the BIOS and you're considering an i9-11900k, buying a quality Z490 at a discount might be smart compared to paying more for a Z590. What are your thoughts?
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ImSilva_Pt
09-05-2021, 08:05 PM #1

I see this as a guess based on current info. Beyond BIOS upgrades, what could make a Z590 better than a Z490? It looks like most Z490s also work with PCIe 4.0 hardware, so the real factor is finding a CPU that supports it. If you can update the BIOS and you're considering an i9-11900k, buying a quality Z490 at a discount might be smart compared to paying more for a Z590. What are your thoughts?

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dinoluigi
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09-05-2021, 10:19 PM
#2
None of these options fit. DDR5 or Ryzen 5800X. Even the 5800X doesn’t seem very attractive compared to a 8700K. Many users rely on benchmark results, and most know better than I do. Still, I’ll treat it as a comparison for reference. I think it’s possible (sufficiently), but I’m sure my own tests with an 8700K will beat those submissions by over 90%. Just keep this in mind. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/In...3937vs4085
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dinoluigi
09-05-2021, 10:19 PM #2

None of these options fit. DDR5 or Ryzen 5800X. Even the 5800X doesn’t seem very attractive compared to a 8700K. Many users rely on benchmark results, and most know better than I do. Still, I’ll treat it as a comparison for reference. I think it’s possible (sufficiently), but I’m sure my own tests with an 8700K will beat those submissions by over 90%. Just keep this in mind. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/In...3937vs4085

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BornNinja
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09-06-2021, 12:06 AM
#3
I withdrew the request. The upgrade doesn't seem worthwhile. The 11th generation might be similar. I'm just wondering if you'll persuade me to run a user benchmark now. I recently updated my BIOS, which includes the latest fixes. I experienced roughly a 2% drop in cinebench from F12c to F15.
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BornNinja
09-06-2021, 12:06 AM #3

I withdrew the request. The upgrade doesn't seem worthwhile. The 11th generation might be similar. I'm just wondering if you'll persuade me to run a user benchmark now. I recently updated my BIOS, which includes the latest fixes. I experienced roughly a 2% drop in cinebench from F12c to F15.

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_Aska_
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09-06-2021, 04:44 AM
#4
I’d likely consider getting a Top End Z490 board, though only on a guess. The prices are really high.
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_Aska_
09-06-2021, 04:44 AM #4

I’d likely consider getting a Top End Z490 board, though only on a guess. The prices are really high.

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TryHardMikel
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09-06-2021, 12:41 PM
#5
This result seems confusing, but it appears to be a benchmark score from User Benchmark. It suggests the system may have been compromised or is running outdated software. You're right—after three years, performance improvements are limited.
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TryHardMikel
09-06-2021, 12:41 PM #5

This result seems confusing, but it appears to be a benchmark score from User Benchmark. It suggests the system may have been compromised or is running outdated software. You're right—after three years, performance improvements are limited.

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peemja
Junior Member
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09-06-2021, 04:11 PM
#6
I'm naturally low on energy, so I'll go with z590. But if you can cut costs and update the BIOS, why not? My main concern is the real performance of the 11th generation, since every third-party leak about Rocket Lake has been really disappointing.
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peemja
09-06-2021, 04:11 PM #6

I'm naturally low on energy, so I'll go with z590. But if you can cut costs and update the BIOS, why not? My main concern is the real performance of the 11th generation, since every third-party leak about Rocket Lake has been really disappointing.

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TryHardMikel
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09-07-2021, 12:07 AM
#7
I also have a 10100 available for potential use, though this remains theoretical. Honestly, I’m aware the improvements won’t be substantial, but I’m aiming for an upgrade in the coming months.
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TryHardMikel
09-07-2021, 12:07 AM #7

I also have a 10100 available for potential use, though this remains theoretical. Honestly, I’m aware the improvements won’t be substantial, but I’m aiming for an upgrade in the coming months.

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Thumps209LV
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09-07-2021, 12:41 AM
#8
The 11700K is a 5GHz chip built on a 14nm process. You already have one… well, you probably do. *shrugs* 11700K delivers 125w from the box. Probably fine with typical usage, but expect it to get warmer than the 8700K due to higher thread count. If your current temps are high during load, add about 15-20°C.
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Thumps209LV
09-07-2021, 12:41 AM #8

The 11700K is a 5GHz chip built on a 14nm process. You already have one… well, you probably do. *shrugs* 11700K delivers 125w from the box. Probably fine with typical usage, but expect it to get warmer than the 8700K due to higher thread count. If your current temps are high during load, add about 15-20°C.

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SageTheMageX
Junior Member
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09-11-2021, 01:59 PM
#9
It's a fresh design, though—just ported to 14nm. I'm not sure how I feel about all this. Honestly, I don't think it's very inspiring. If every test I saw proved the 5800x outperforms Intel components, even something like the 10600k, then it would make sense. But unfortunately, that's not happening. Most of the time it does, but the absence of a clear advantage is discouraging.
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SageTheMageX
09-11-2021, 01:59 PM #9

It's a fresh design, though—just ported to 14nm. I'm not sure how I feel about all this. Honestly, I don't think it's very inspiring. If every test I saw proved the 5800x outperforms Intel components, even something like the 10600k, then it would make sense. But unfortunately, that's not happening. Most of the time it does, but the absence of a clear advantage is discouraging.

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Clareesuh
Member
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09-11-2021, 03:54 PM
#10
It's disappointing since you expected a clear reason to invest that amount. The 5800X isn't being utilized, which explains why it didn't come up in this discussion. You'd be focusing on Ryzen improvements and comparing them to your previous setup. Ultimately, 100fps versus 110 fps doesn't make sense for a purchase. Oh, the Cinebench results on a daily gaming rig are impressive—16 threads with half or more idle during intense games. That's why my 2700X stays as the 4K gaming machine until DDR5 arrives. I'm struggling to find any justification, not even for benchmarking.
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Clareesuh
09-11-2021, 03:54 PM #10

It's disappointing since you expected a clear reason to invest that amount. The 5800X isn't being utilized, which explains why it didn't come up in this discussion. You'd be focusing on Ryzen improvements and comparing them to your previous setup. Ultimately, 100fps versus 110 fps doesn't make sense for a purchase. Oh, the Cinebench results on a daily gaming rig are impressive—16 threads with half or more idle during intense games. That's why my 2700X stays as the 4K gaming machine until DDR5 arrives. I'm struggling to find any justification, not even for benchmarking.

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