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Comparison of I9 series and microcode changes with BIOS settings

Comparison of I9 series and microcode changes with BIOS settings

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Biel_extremer
Member
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10-19-2023, 02:20 AM
#1
All updates have been implemented and it seems both performance and CPU temperatures have slightly decreased, according to my observations and those of a few others. This raises my question... Are the 'Intel default settings' still required or excessive for Intel to minimize returns? I've seen one suggestion:
- Configure Asus optimised instead of the two Intel defaults.
- Apply a specific core performance ratio limit of 57X for all P cores.
- Adjust SVID behaviour to Typical.
- Set ICC MAX to 400.
- Set PL1 and PL2 to 253W.
What are your insights from experience?
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Biel_extremer
10-19-2023, 02:20 AM #1

All updates have been implemented and it seems both performance and CPU temperatures have slightly decreased, according to my observations and those of a few others. This raises my question... Are the 'Intel default settings' still required or excessive for Intel to minimize returns? I've seen one suggestion:
- Configure Asus optimised instead of the two Intel defaults.
- Apply a specific core performance ratio limit of 57X for all P cores.
- Adjust SVID behaviour to Typical.
- Set ICC MAX to 400.
- Set PL1 and PL2 to 253W.
What are your insights from experience?

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Gonzah2002
Junior Member
12
10-19-2023, 06:08 AM
#2
The 13/14th generation issues developed in two phases.
Motherboard manufacturers competed to provide better products, which caused them to ignore official specifications, especially regarding voltage.
Intel released BIOS updates to ensure compliance with the standards.
Once issues continued, the problem was traced to the chips themselves, and additional BIOS fixes were released.
Since it was impossible to evaluate the existing damage, warranties were extended.
Based on my experience, I recommend applying the BIOS updates and running the processors at standard settings.
If you encounter a problem, submit an RMA. There are many potential causes; if you can replace the CPU with a known good one for testing, your RMA will be processed.
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Gonzah2002
10-19-2023, 06:08 AM #2

The 13/14th generation issues developed in two phases.
Motherboard manufacturers competed to provide better products, which caused them to ignore official specifications, especially regarding voltage.
Intel released BIOS updates to ensure compliance with the standards.
Once issues continued, the problem was traced to the chips themselves, and additional BIOS fixes were released.
Since it was impossible to evaluate the existing damage, warranties were extended.
Based on my experience, I recommend applying the BIOS updates and running the processors at standard settings.
If you encounter a problem, submit an RMA. There are many potential causes; if you can replace the CPU with a known good one for testing, your RMA will be processed.

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goldcake_HD
Member
104
10-22-2023, 12:34 PM
#3
Did you experience a genuine issue previously? Are you prioritizing peak performance or long-term CPU durability? Please share your motherboard and CPU cooler specifications, along with your CPU model.
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goldcake_HD
10-22-2023, 12:34 PM #3

Did you experience a genuine issue previously? Are you prioritizing peak performance or long-term CPU durability? Please share your motherboard and CPU cooler specifications, along with your CPU model.

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pedromortale
Junior Member
4
10-22-2023, 05:56 PM
#4
Other than default configurations, overclocking is the process itself. If all settings are applied properly and microcode, BIOS, and other components are correctly configured, it should prevent the CPU from receiving excessive voltage even during overclocking—unless you intentionally apply too much power. However, overclocking still leads to gradual wear, which was observed in previous issues.
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pedromortale
10-22-2023, 05:56 PM #4

Other than default configurations, overclocking is the process itself. If all settings are applied properly and microcode, BIOS, and other components are correctly configured, it should prevent the CPU from receiving excessive voltage even during overclocking—unless you intentionally apply too much power. However, overclocking still leads to gradual wear, which was observed in previous issues.

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MrCm
Senior Member
636
10-22-2023, 11:22 PM
#5
I believe you intended to refer to "discretion."
noun
/diˈɡrɪshən/
noun:
a brief pause
; plural noun:
digressions
a momentary shift away from the primary topic in communication.
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MrCm
10-22-2023, 11:22 PM #5

I believe you intended to refer to "discretion."
noun
/diˈɡrɪshən/
noun:
a brief pause
; plural noun:
digressions
a momentary shift away from the primary topic in communication.

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itzhalloween
Junior Member
16
10-23-2023, 02:51 AM
#6
Overclocking is a questionable term nowadays, since both ASUS and Intel do it regardless. The main issue seems to be whether microcode updates have fixed the real problem.
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itzhalloween
10-23-2023, 02:51 AM #6

Overclocking is a questionable term nowadays, since both ASUS and Intel do it regardless. The main issue seems to be whether microcode updates have fixed the real problem.

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Factions_
Junior Member
19
11-08-2023, 10:01 AM
#7
The real issue stemmed from incorrect instructions and settings. Intel has resolved these, which means the belief (and yes, I understand) that the matter is fixed would likely be accurate. Still, checking manually by observing the situation remains your most reliable way to prevent future issues.
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Factions_
11-08-2023, 10:01 AM #7

The real issue stemmed from incorrect instructions and settings. Intel has resolved these, which means the belief (and yes, I understand) that the matter is fixed would likely be accurate. Still, checking manually by observing the situation remains your most reliable way to prevent future issues.

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A_Sound
Senior Member
486
11-13-2023, 09:14 AM
#8
Intel doesn't offer pre-built PCs, and the CPU doesn't contain features that compel overclocking at any time. Mobo manufacturers have also been told to explicitly mark items not in stock, requiring users to choose an overclocked setting manually.
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A_Sound
11-13-2023, 09:14 AM #8

Intel doesn't offer pre-built PCs, and the CPU doesn't contain features that compel overclocking at any time. Mobo manufacturers have also been told to explicitly mark items not in stock, requiring users to choose an overclocked setting manually.

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daytreik
Junior Member
45
11-14-2023, 01:23 AM
#9
It's not surprising that nobody follows through with those rules, is it? Take any of the recent Gens cases—most manufacturers have had to reduce the number of boards they shipped for certain setups. These current issues are just another case of "sorry, we lost our way" in these matters.
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daytreik
11-14-2023, 01:23 AM #9

It's not surprising that nobody follows through with those rules, is it? Take any of the recent Gens cases—most manufacturers have had to reduce the number of boards they shipped for certain setups. These current issues are just another case of "sorry, we lost our way" in these matters.

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IkBenHetBram
Senior Member
735
11-14-2023, 06:49 AM
#10
The claim was made that 'carried away' doesn't refer to overclocking, but rather that it never occurred.
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IkBenHetBram
11-14-2023, 06:49 AM #10

The claim was made that 'carried away' doesn't refer to overclocking, but rather that it never occurred.

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