Comparing two PSUs ?
Comparing two PSUs ?
Looking for alternatives to deepcool. Any thoughts on alpenefohn brocken 4 max? Comparable prices.
At this stage I would still steer clear of Gigabyte PSUs, even though they offer a range of models that seem decent. Their performance during the previous incident with faulty PSUs and the exploding P850GM units was to largely ignore a complete safety recall and repeatedly dismiss the well-known problem. This scenario leads me not to believe Gigabyte would back their products effectively if you encountered an issue with one of their devices.
Did find two reviews but neither was reputable. Also, reviews were very small scope, comparing 2 other coolers to it, one of them being AMD Wraith (stock cooler with some AMD chips). I'd rather get CPU cooler that has reputable review, where it is compared against many other coolers for better comparison. If you want king of air coolers, then look no further than Thermalright. King of air coolers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 (and it's variants), review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/therm...ler/6.html Will beat several AIOs and even the former king, Noctua NH-D15. Value king of air coolers: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 (and it's variants), review: Weaker than Phantom Spirit, but also cheaper. Making it value king. There is 140mm variant of the Peerless Assassin 140 as well, review: https://hwbusters.com/cooling/thermalrig...-review/9/ So, if you want best price-to-performance ratio with air coolers, look no further than Thermalright. Thermalright is the new Noctua in air cooling scene. Lineup: https://thermalright.com/product-categor...al-towers/ Phantom Spirit 120 EVO is the same price as that Alpenföhn (that brand i hear 1st time), while Peerless Assassin 120 is far cheaper. Pcpp (DE): https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/com...sY,BK3WGX/ I, personally, like the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 Digital Black and i'd love to get it to cool my upcoming R7 9800X3D. But sadly, availability in my area is non-existent. So, i may need to end up with the regular Peerless Assassin 120 SE or Phantom Spirit 120 EVO. True. I'd be wary of the Gigabyte AORUS Elite P850W as well, since as long as there isn't proper review to test PSU's protections, it could very well be the 2nd P850GM saga in the making. Surely you would have availability for Corsair RM850x or RM850i? Or Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME in 850W capacity? Thee solid PSUs to choose from within the price range, pcpp (DE): https://de.pcpartpicker.com/products/com...8d,7tXV3C/ Be Quiet! 1000W and MSI 850W - Tier A Thermaltake 850W - Tier A+
I would need to move down to GOLD instead of PLATINUM but it offers more choices:
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 II 80 Plus Gold 850W at 100 euro
MSI MPG A850G 80 Plus Gold 850W at 100 euro
Seasonic G12 GM FM 80 Plus Gold 850W at 100 euro
Seasonic G12 GC RT2 80 Plus Gold 850W at 100 euro
Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 80 Plus Gold 850W at 120 euro
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 80 Plus Gold 850W at 140 euro
Corsair RM850x Shift (or non-shift) 80 Plus Gold 850W at 150 euro
Recommendation?
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 II 80 Plus Gold 850W 100 euro - Tier B.
MSI MPG A850G 80 Plus Gold 850W 100 euro - Tier ???
Seasonic G12 GM FM 80 Plus Gold 850W 100 euro - Tier C+
Seasonic G12 GC RT2 80 Plus Gold 850W 100 euro - Tier C+
Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 80 Plus Gold 850W 120 euro - Tier A+
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 80 Plus Gold 850W 140 euro - Tier A
Corsair RM850x Shift (or non-shift) 80 Plus Gold 850W 150 euro - Tier A+
Regular RMx depends on the release year. For models from 2015 or 2018, it's Tier A; for 2021 or 2024, Tier A+. The choice between Thermaltake or regular RMx doesn't matter.
Note: The RMx Shift is a unique design, similar to Lian-Li, but very different. Your PC case lacks sufficient cable management room to reroute power cables from the PSU elsewhere unless you remove the back panel completely.
Read the TechPowerUp review I linked for more details.
Or if you're interested in the other end of the air coolers, check the price of the Noctua NH-D15 G2 here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/noctu...ler/6.html
It performs better than the Phantom Spirit 120 SE, but at what expense?
If you have the budget, I would choose this path regardless of the year, and avoid unnecessary changes to simplify things. These units are top quality, come with a strong warranty, and the company provides solid technical and support assistance based on my experience.
For those looking to save, the MSI a850GL has a solid reputation and delivers good value. Like Corsair, it offers decent warranty and support. This model is sufficient for your system and future upgrades.
Thermalright offers excellent value overall. I recently built a system using a Royal Pretor 130, which is currently the best air cooler available without being overly costly, though it may not match the performance of a top-tier assassin 120/140. For liquid cooling, I would recommend Thermalright exclusively at this stage. If you prefer a liquid solution, the Arctics liquid freezer line is outstanding.
The PSU isn't the place to cut costs because it powers everything, making it the most crucial part inside the PC. Therefore, never compromise on a PSU! Also, avoid purchasing used ones either. A €20 difference between Tier B and Tier A+ shows a big gap in build quality, so PSU quality shouldn't be ignored. The OP's budget for the PSU is €130, which far exceeds the price of a Thermaltake GF1. Plus, there are significant savings on the CPU cooler if you choose Thermalright.
PSU Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 80 Plus Gold 850W 123 euros
MSI MAG A850GL 80 Plus Gold 850W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 119 euros
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 II 80 Plus Gold 850W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 98 euros
Recommendation?
I was already leaning toward Thermaltake, but after reading Aeacus comments... I began thinking about MSI. I don’t have a budget for PSU yet... 90 to 140 euros is acceptable.
I would be in agreement if saving money resulted in a unit with noticeably lower quality. In this scenario, the tiers are just that—arbitrary—and the MSI a850gl remains quite good quality, performing well and lasting a long time. The main downside could be a slightly louder fan, though it should still be quieter than the rest of the system.