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Compare TPM, PTT and other options.

Compare TPM, PTT and other options.

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EmissaryZ
Member
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09-21-2021, 06:20 PM
#1
I successfully set up Windows 11 on an Intel i3 6006u chip, even though it isn't officially approved for Windows 11. It uses PTT instead of TPM. This seems to be Intel's alternative to TPM. Despite running slowly on DDR4 8GB memory, Windows 10 performs much better. Microsoft suggests TPM 2.0 as an improvement, but I'm not sure if it's better in this case.
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EmissaryZ
09-21-2021, 06:20 PM #1

I successfully set up Windows 11 on an Intel i3 6006u chip, even though it isn't officially approved for Windows 11. It uses PTT instead of TPM. This seems to be Intel's alternative to TPM. Despite running slowly on DDR4 8GB memory, Windows 10 performs much better. Microsoft suggests TPM 2.0 as an improvement, but I'm not sure if it's better in this case.

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HeyItzMax
Junior Member
26
09-22-2021, 08:48 PM
#2
PTT differs from TPM in function. A motherboard with PTT might allow a TPM add-on, but PTT isn't TPM itself. It's unlikely to be the problem because it can't function properly without TPM support, whether built-in or via an add-on, which makes adding it unnecessary if you're using unsupported hardware.
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HeyItzMax
09-22-2021, 08:48 PM #2

PTT differs from TPM in function. A motherboard with PTT might allow a TPM add-on, but PTT isn't TPM itself. It's unlikely to be the problem because it can't function properly without TPM support, whether built-in or via an add-on, which makes adding it unnecessary if you're using unsupported hardware.

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XWeeezy
Member
65
10-08-2021, 05:47 AM
#3
Are these similar for laptops in general? The Dell Inspiron 3567 seems to be a business-focused model, likely with features like SGX.
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XWeeezy
10-08-2021, 05:47 AM #3

Are these similar for laptops in general? The Dell Inspiron 3567 seems to be a business-focused model, likely with features like SGX.

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CaptainMorgen
Junior Member
48
10-08-2021, 06:59 AM
#4
TPM is commonly found in laptops, but it’s worth noting it might be listed in the BIOS. As a Dell user, hidden settings could exist. The Windows 11 compatibility tool should explicitly indicate TPM presence, even with unsupported CPUs.
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CaptainMorgen
10-08-2021, 06:59 AM #4

TPM is commonly found in laptops, but it’s worth noting it might be listed in the BIOS. As a Dell user, hidden settings could exist. The Windows 11 compatibility tool should explicitly indicate TPM presence, even with unsupported CPUs.

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ARMADAE
Member
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10-08-2021, 09:56 AM
#5
From my perspective, there are four kinds of keys. Such as secure boot. But when you were using Windows, Microsoft never mentioned Ptt. They always referred to the TPM module.
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ARMADAE
10-08-2021, 09:56 AM #5

From my perspective, there are four kinds of keys. Such as secure boot. But when you were using Windows, Microsoft never mentioned Ptt. They always referred to the TPM module.

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KuzZzy
Junior Member
1
10-10-2021, 08:37 AM
#6
Consider trying the Windows key + R shortcut, enter tpm.msc, and press OK. However, it might not be useful with unsupported CPUs since other reasons could prevent support.
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KuzZzy
10-10-2021, 08:37 AM #6

Consider trying the Windows key + R shortcut, enter tpm.msc, and press OK. However, it might not be useful with unsupported CPUs since other reasons could prevent support.

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Deianna
Junior Member
11
10-10-2021, 09:53 AM
#7
I've dealt with similar issues before—someone remotely accessing my system seems suspicious. It could be a security flaw. I'm unable to verify it now. Are there other TPM options you'd like to explore?
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Deianna
10-10-2021, 09:53 AM #7

I've dealt with similar issues before—someone remotely accessing my system seems suspicious. It could be a security flaw. I'm unable to verify it now. Are there other TPM options you'd like to explore?

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Goldenpiggy737
Junior Member
34
10-10-2021, 06:35 PM
#8
A reliable and reputable VPN might just be what you need. In my view, PTT (cpu-driven) and TPM (module-based) are ideal for secure boot and firmware security. My take...
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Goldenpiggy737
10-10-2021, 06:35 PM #8

A reliable and reputable VPN might just be what you need. In my view, PTT (cpu-driven) and TPM (module-based) are ideal for secure boot and firmware security. My take...

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Kynedee
Posting Freak
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10-15-2021, 11:47 AM
#9
I'm currently offering all items and plan to hold out for 1 or 2 years until the market stabilizes a bit. Prices are currently very high and everything will likely be replaced within 2 months. If TPM 1.2 was enough, they probably wouldn't have moved to TPM 2.0. I think
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Kynedee
10-15-2021, 11:47 AM #9

I'm currently offering all items and plan to hold out for 1 or 2 years until the market stabilizes a bit. Prices are currently very high and everything will likely be replaced within 2 months. If TPM 1.2 was enough, they probably wouldn't have moved to TPM 2.0. I think

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LOLMENKING
Member
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10-16-2021, 12:13 AM
#10
Windows 11 can run on older CPUs if the system meets certain requirements: a TPM chip or similar technology (like fTPM, PTT, Pluton), SecureBoot enabled, and sufficient resources such as at least 4GB RAM and 64GB storage. However, Microsoft warns that unsupported CPUs may lead to problems like BSODs and performance problems. They claim they won’t assist or investigate these issues. If future updates require unsupported hardware, you agree to be left out. Microsoft primarily tests its OS with supported CPUs for security and performance reasons, including potential impacts from Specter and Meltdown fixes. They also rely on manufacturer support, which varies—some motherboards don’t receive updates and may face performance drops when enabling TPM features. Intel PTT is a firmware variant of the TPM chip inside the CPU, closely resembling TPM functionality. Windows 11 supports it, while fTPM is AMD’s equivalent and Pluton is Microsoft’s version embedded in the CPU. This means users aren’t restricted to a single manufacturer for updates.
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LOLMENKING
10-16-2021, 12:13 AM #10

Windows 11 can run on older CPUs if the system meets certain requirements: a TPM chip or similar technology (like fTPM, PTT, Pluton), SecureBoot enabled, and sufficient resources such as at least 4GB RAM and 64GB storage. However, Microsoft warns that unsupported CPUs may lead to problems like BSODs and performance problems. They claim they won’t assist or investigate these issues. If future updates require unsupported hardware, you agree to be left out. Microsoft primarily tests its OS with supported CPUs for security and performance reasons, including potential impacts from Specter and Meltdown fixes. They also rely on manufacturer support, which varies—some motherboards don’t receive updates and may face performance drops when enabling TPM features. Intel PTT is a firmware variant of the TPM chip inside the CPU, closely resembling TPM functionality. Windows 11 supports it, while fTPM is AMD’s equivalent and Pluton is Microsoft’s version embedded in the CPU. This means users aren’t restricted to a single manufacturer for updates.