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Compare Ryzen 7 5700X and 5800X for performance and features.

Compare Ryzen 7 5700X and 5800X for performance and features.

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Lucadagreat
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08-24-2022, 08:28 AM
#1
You're considering moving from your 5 3600XT to the 5800X. It's worth evaluating if the performance boost justifies the cost. The real-world impact depends on your workload—gaming, video editing, and 3D work all benefit from higher refresh rates. For cooling, a 4x8 3600MHz C18 kit would be necessary to handle increased thermal load.
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Lucadagreat
08-24-2022, 08:28 AM #1

You're considering moving from your 5 3600XT to the 5800X. It's worth evaluating if the performance boost justifies the cost. The real-world impact depends on your workload—gaming, video editing, and 3D work all benefit from higher refresh rates. For cooling, a 4x8 3600MHz C18 kit would be necessary to handle increased thermal load.

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Dxnni
Junior Member
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08-24-2022, 05:21 PM
#2
You can adjust it to 400MHz directly from the base clock, and the cache performance remains the same.
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Dxnni
08-24-2022, 05:21 PM #2

You can adjust it to 400MHz directly from the base clock, and the cache performance remains the same.

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heyitsjackson
Member
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08-24-2022, 08:54 PM
#3
I share the thoughts of @SorryClaire. The 5800X3D could justify the extra cost, though the 5700X and 5800X models are quite similar. The added clock speed can be achieved with PBO, which is obvious. My 5900X reached 4.975 at PBO without any adjustments, so I remain skeptical about the 'dead platform' claim. The Zen 4s appear to face cooling challenges, likely from too much space between the cooler and CPU cover plate, but that’s another topic. When upgrading RAM, double-check your board’s compatibility list—missing entries don’t always mean it won’t work, but some kits aren’t listed because Ryzens and supporting boards are very particular about RAM specs, which can lead to problems. For example, my 5900X struggled for months until @BiotechBen mentioned memory training tailored to a specific issue. After confirming the DIMMs passed memtest86, switching to another board and processor resolved the problem, and matching replacement kits from each board’s list fixed it. Regarding cooling, a Scythe Fuma or Mugen 4 seems fine, though the Scythe Mugen 5 keeps my 5900X under 80°C in most cases. I usually stay around 84-85°C when running hard (which isn’t easy), rarely dropping below 72°C. I also have a 5S on a 3600X that never exceeds 60°C. Updated: Feb 21, 2023 by An0maly_76 Added more details
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heyitsjackson
08-24-2022, 08:54 PM #3

I share the thoughts of @SorryClaire. The 5800X3D could justify the extra cost, though the 5700X and 5800X models are quite similar. The added clock speed can be achieved with PBO, which is obvious. My 5900X reached 4.975 at PBO without any adjustments, so I remain skeptical about the 'dead platform' claim. The Zen 4s appear to face cooling challenges, likely from too much space between the cooler and CPU cover plate, but that’s another topic. When upgrading RAM, double-check your board’s compatibility list—missing entries don’t always mean it won’t work, but some kits aren’t listed because Ryzens and supporting boards are very particular about RAM specs, which can lead to problems. For example, my 5900X struggled for months until @BiotechBen mentioned memory training tailored to a specific issue. After confirming the DIMMs passed memtest86, switching to another board and processor resolved the problem, and matching replacement kits from each board’s list fixed it. Regarding cooling, a Scythe Fuma or Mugen 4 seems fine, though the Scythe Mugen 5 keeps my 5900X under 80°C in most cases. I usually stay around 84-85°C when running hard (which isn’t easy), rarely dropping below 72°C. I also have a 5S on a 3600X that never exceeds 60°C. Updated: Feb 21, 2023 by An0maly_76 Added more details

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TheCoolNerd
Member
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08-26-2022, 05:22 AM
#4
The key concern is identifying your current motherboard and RAM specifications. Consider using DDR5 with an AM5 chipset if you're planning an upgrade.
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TheCoolNerd
08-26-2022, 05:22 AM #4

The key concern is identifying your current motherboard and RAM specifications. Consider using DDR5 with an AM5 chipset if you're planning an upgrade.

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Overwinnen
Junior Member
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08-27-2022, 05:21 AM
#5
I'm conducting detailed research on a MSI Tomahawk b450 Max motherboard. I was considering the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280, thinking it offered good value in that category. I didn't mention focusing only on 280 models; my priority is keeping the case compact for better component access and aesthetics. However, the main concern is ease of cleaning. I'm comparing 280 and 420 units, assuming the cooling performance difference is minimal—especially since I value future-proofing. If saving a bit, I'll opt for the 420 model.
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Overwinnen
08-27-2022, 05:21 AM #5

I'm conducting detailed research on a MSI Tomahawk b450 Max motherboard. I was considering the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280, thinking it offered good value in that category. I didn't mention focusing only on 280 models; my priority is keeping the case compact for better component access and aesthetics. However, the main concern is ease of cleaning. I'm comparing 280 and 420 units, assuming the cooling performance difference is minimal—especially since I value future-proofing. If saving a bit, I'll opt for the 420 model.

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Surgeon3
Member
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08-27-2022, 09:58 AM
#6
Linus has evaluated different air-coolers and AIO setups, noting minimal temperature variations of 5°C or less. The only benefit of liquid cooling appears to be marginally better stability. AIOs often require more effort when troubleshooting, as issues can complicate disassembly. Understandably, you prefer what works for you, but AIO and liquid systems demand more upkeep and are trickier to diagnose.
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Surgeon3
08-27-2022, 09:58 AM #6

Linus has evaluated different air-coolers and AIO setups, noting minimal temperature variations of 5°C or less. The only benefit of liquid cooling appears to be marginally better stability. AIOs often require more effort when troubleshooting, as issues can complicate disassembly. Understandably, you prefer what works for you, but AIO and liquid systems demand more upkeep and are trickier to diagnose.

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SuperGlasses
Member
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08-29-2022, 03:19 AM
#7
The 5700X works well without a powerful cooler. A good single tower unit with a 120mm fan suffices, or a 240mm AIO would do. Prioritize the CPU over the cooler—spending more on cooling is usually unnecessary. If you already have DDR4 2933 or better, swapping RAM is just an extra cost without much benefit.
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SuperGlasses
08-29-2022, 03:19 AM #7

The 5700X works well without a powerful cooler. A good single tower unit with a 120mm fan suffices, or a 240mm AIO would do. Prioritize the CPU over the cooler—spending more on cooling is usually unnecessary. If you already have DDR4 2933 or better, swapping RAM is just an extra cost without much benefit.

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08-31-2022, 04:22 PM
#8
I thought about the option (which I haven’t decided on yet), but I still favor experimenting instead of sticking to a big choice. Plus, I enjoy working with technology!
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monsterman1108
08-31-2022, 04:22 PM #8

I thought about the option (which I haven’t decided on yet), but I still favor experimenting instead of sticking to a big choice. Plus, I enjoy working with technology!

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Macattack1972
Member
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09-01-2022, 12:24 AM
#9
I understand. I tend to just set it and forget it. A bit of dust is fine, but I don’t want to struggle with anything to keep things running smoothly. My 5900X nearly sank in a lake because RAM stability kept messing with me for months. After working with @BiotechBen, I had to re-seat the GPU and RAM weekly. That was pretty fast. Updated Feb 21, 2023 by An0maly_76 Added more details
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Macattack1972
09-01-2022, 12:24 AM #9

I understand. I tend to just set it and forget it. A bit of dust is fine, but I don’t want to struggle with anything to keep things running smoothly. My 5900X nearly sank in a lake because RAM stability kept messing with me for months. After working with @BiotechBen, I had to re-seat the GPU and RAM weekly. That was pretty fast. Updated Feb 21, 2023 by An0maly_76 Added more details

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RMZ184
Junior Member
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09-01-2022, 05:43 AM
#10
Absolutely, I get it. If things go this way, it’s probably a lake scenario—like the Amazon return bin.
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RMZ184
09-01-2022, 05:43 AM #10

Absolutely, I get it. If things go this way, it’s probably a lake scenario—like the Amazon return bin.