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Compare Alder Lake DDR4 and DDR5 boards to ensure long-term compatibility

Compare Alder Lake DDR4 and DDR5 boards to ensure long-term compatibility

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Night__Man
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11-18-2021, 02:58 AM
#1
I understand that technically future-proofing isn't really achievable, but I get the idea. In short, it means having upgrade options that let you improve without replacing the main board or swapping out graphics cards. This avoids the hassle of constantly changing hardware. Right now, I prefer keeping the same motherboard for at least three years. From a technical standpoint, DDR5 offers more flexibility since you could eventually upgrade to better versions or even see better performance from Raptor Lake compared to Alder Lake. However, DDR5 still struggles with latency issues on older CPUs like Alder Lake, making it less ideal for gaming that relies on a 1:1 clock speed. On the other hand, DDR4 remains stable with its current configurations and offers solid performance on LGA 1700 platforms. I’m leaning toward sticking with DDR4 right now because of reliability and stability, but I’m curious how Raptor Lake might change that in the near future.
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Night__Man
11-18-2021, 02:58 AM #1

I understand that technically future-proofing isn't really achievable, but I get the idea. In short, it means having upgrade options that let you improve without replacing the main board or swapping out graphics cards. This avoids the hassle of constantly changing hardware. Right now, I prefer keeping the same motherboard for at least three years. From a technical standpoint, DDR5 offers more flexibility since you could eventually upgrade to better versions or even see better performance from Raptor Lake compared to Alder Lake. However, DDR5 still struggles with latency issues on older CPUs like Alder Lake, making it less ideal for gaming that relies on a 1:1 clock speed. On the other hand, DDR4 remains stable with its current configurations and offers solid performance on LGA 1700 platforms. I’m leaning toward sticking with DDR4 right now because of reliability and stability, but I’m curious how Raptor Lake might change that in the near future.

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disastertiti
Junior Member
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11-20-2021, 05:31 PM
#2
Not probable. X99 represents the latest case of memory transition (DDR3 to DDR4), and the controllers there performed poorly. 3200MHz was a strong benchmark, but today you rarely find CPUs that don’t support those memory configurations. Similar issues appeared on Haswell-E (5th gen Extreme versions) and later Broadwell-E (6th gen Extreme versions)—performance didn’t improve as it progressed. By the time performance matters, you’d be better off upgrading your hardware overall. This pattern held true with Skylake and most dual memory systems (DDR4 vs DDR3 pricing was reasonable outside ultra-high-end builds). DDR5 platforms are expected to hold more value on the used market eventually, though the extra $200 for DDR5 versus DDR4 today isn’t justified. DDR5 is generally the better choice unless your workload demands the specific benefits of high memory bandwidth (compression, advanced 3D modeling, etc.), special features like x8 support or Thunderbolt integration, or you’re planning to overclock heavily—then a significant investment in RAM alone won’t make much difference.
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disastertiti
11-20-2021, 05:31 PM #2

Not probable. X99 represents the latest case of memory transition (DDR3 to DDR4), and the controllers there performed poorly. 3200MHz was a strong benchmark, but today you rarely find CPUs that don’t support those memory configurations. Similar issues appeared on Haswell-E (5th gen Extreme versions) and later Broadwell-E (6th gen Extreme versions)—performance didn’t improve as it progressed. By the time performance matters, you’d be better off upgrading your hardware overall. This pattern held true with Skylake and most dual memory systems (DDR4 vs DDR3 pricing was reasonable outside ultra-high-end builds). DDR5 platforms are expected to hold more value on the used market eventually, though the extra $200 for DDR5 versus DDR4 today isn’t justified. DDR5 is generally the better choice unless your workload demands the specific benefits of high memory bandwidth (compression, advanced 3D modeling, etc.), special features like x8 support or Thunderbolt integration, or you’re planning to overclock heavily—then a significant investment in RAM alone won’t make much difference.

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Machine3721
Member
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11-26-2021, 02:40 PM
#3
I believe DDR4 is definitely a significant upgrade. You're correct about motherboards—those DDR4 boards feel quite basic, missing many modern features. While I can get by with the Asus Tuf, they really are stripped down. Beyond price, is there any advantage to switching to DDR5 with Alder Lake? Would it be too much of a performance hit to move from DDR4 to DDR5? The difference isn't just about cost; DDR5 tends to lag noticeably in everyday tasks and gaming, especially at lower frame rates. Even though DDR4 RAM is still decent now, most motherboards are now DDR5 models packed with features. It's disappointing that good options remain limited. The price gap between RAM types has narrowed a bit, but you're still looking at at least a few hundred dollars more for solid DDR5 versus DDR4, and $300 to $400 or more for top-tier DDR5 compared to DDR4.
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Machine3721
11-26-2021, 02:40 PM #3

I believe DDR4 is definitely a significant upgrade. You're correct about motherboards—those DDR4 boards feel quite basic, missing many modern features. While I can get by with the Asus Tuf, they really are stripped down. Beyond price, is there any advantage to switching to DDR5 with Alder Lake? Would it be too much of a performance hit to move from DDR4 to DDR5? The difference isn't just about cost; DDR5 tends to lag noticeably in everyday tasks and gaming, especially at lower frame rates. Even though DDR4 RAM is still decent now, most motherboards are now DDR5 models packed with features. It's disappointing that good options remain limited. The price gap between RAM types has narrowed a bit, but you're still looking at at least a few hundred dollars more for solid DDR5 versus DDR4, and $300 to $400 or more for top-tier DDR5 compared to DDR4.

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Ipod984
Senior Member
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11-26-2021, 03:05 PM
#4
You can somewhat foresee what might happen with this situation, especially considering past leadership changes. Older iterations of DDR have improved over time as they've developed. It's unlikely DDR5 will be significantly different. As @RONOTHAN## noted, by the time DDR5 reaches its performance level, you'll likely already be using a different socket; it would be wise to upgrade. I'd stick with DDR4 initially and switch to DDR5 when it proves more efficient in the future.
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Ipod984
11-26-2021, 03:05 PM #4

You can somewhat foresee what might happen with this situation, especially considering past leadership changes. Older iterations of DDR have improved over time as they've developed. It's unlikely DDR5 will be significantly different. As @RONOTHAN## noted, by the time DDR5 reaches its performance level, you'll likely already be using a different socket; it would be wise to upgrade. I'd stick with DDR4 initially and switch to DDR5 when it proves more efficient in the future.

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xGexa
Member
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11-28-2021, 03:53 PM
#5
Yep. Keyboard input isn't my best skill. DDR5 significantly boosts memory speed, often reducing the delay issues linked to Gear 2. This trend mirrors what happened with DDR4, where certain modules excelled in Gear 2 compared to Gear 1 (Hynix DJR and Micron Rev E come to mind) due to higher clock speeds without major timing improvements. It explains why most gaming scores seem similar between DDR4 and DDR5, despite DDR4 generally offering lower latency. Their lowest performance numbers stay fairly consistent, with only a few games lagging more with DDR5 and others improving slightly. Skylake used a second-generation DDR4 chipset, so it had advanced enough to reliably reach speeds where DDR4 was noticeably quicker. Lower-end DDR4 (2400MHz CL16) still matched DDR3 results, but Skylake chips clocked memory faster than their X99 versions (my 7700k runs at 3866MHz CL15-17-17-28 stable). Looking at used parts, I've noticed high-end 32GB DDR4 units often drop in price. I've seen a G.Skill 2x16GB kit at 3200MHz CL14 for $100, and bought a Ripjaws V 4400MHz CL17 2x16GB for about $80. It makes sense to capitalize on the market shift toward higher-end RAM, CPUs, and boards as they drop in price. If you don’t mind skipping premium features like those in Z690 boards (few need more than Z690-A Pro DDR4), or if the Aorus Pro lacks solid memory support, a quick DDR4 setup is definitely the best choice.
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xGexa
11-28-2021, 03:53 PM #5

Yep. Keyboard input isn't my best skill. DDR5 significantly boosts memory speed, often reducing the delay issues linked to Gear 2. This trend mirrors what happened with DDR4, where certain modules excelled in Gear 2 compared to Gear 1 (Hynix DJR and Micron Rev E come to mind) due to higher clock speeds without major timing improvements. It explains why most gaming scores seem similar between DDR4 and DDR5, despite DDR4 generally offering lower latency. Their lowest performance numbers stay fairly consistent, with only a few games lagging more with DDR5 and others improving slightly. Skylake used a second-generation DDR4 chipset, so it had advanced enough to reliably reach speeds where DDR4 was noticeably quicker. Lower-end DDR4 (2400MHz CL16) still matched DDR3 results, but Skylake chips clocked memory faster than their X99 versions (my 7700k runs at 3866MHz CL15-17-17-28 stable). Looking at used parts, I've noticed high-end 32GB DDR4 units often drop in price. I've seen a G.Skill 2x16GB kit at 3200MHz CL14 for $100, and bought a Ripjaws V 4400MHz CL17 2x16GB for about $80. It makes sense to capitalize on the market shift toward higher-end RAM, CPUs, and boards as they drop in price. If you don’t mind skipping premium features like those in Z690 boards (few need more than Z690-A Pro DDR4), or if the Aorus Pro lacks solid memory support, a quick DDR4 setup is definitely the best choice.

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CSA_Thomas
Junior Member
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11-29-2021, 02:23 AM
#6
The DDR5 standard offers long-term security, but today's setups aren't ready for it. When the technology advances and faster components arrive, your existing motherboard, CPU, and memory controller will likely fall short, forcing a replacement. Invest in a system that meets your present needs with durable specs, but don't rely on it working with upcoming unannounced innovations.
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CSA_Thomas
11-29-2021, 02:23 AM #6

The DDR5 standard offers long-term security, but today's setups aren't ready for it. When the technology advances and faster components arrive, your existing motherboard, CPU, and memory controller will likely fall short, forcing a replacement. Invest in a system that meets your present needs with durable specs, but don't rely on it working with upcoming unannounced innovations.