Choose between Ryzen 7700X and Intel 13700K for your build.
Choose between Ryzen 7700X and Intel 13700K for your build.
Purchase the 7700X immediately or hold off for the 13700k to boost gaming power. What do you think?
Uncertain without information from both sources. Wait for complete testing before deciding. Avoid making purchases at this time.
The 7900X and 7950X make solid picks for high-end or productivity-focused systems. Beyond that, the 13,600K easily surpasses the 7,600X and 7,700X, especially after Intel added eight E-cores. They maintain the single-core edge while boosting performance through E-cores, and the cost stays comparable to a 7,600X.
Motherboards and drr5 tend to be expensive, especially if you're focused on graphics. A 7000 series vcache could make other components outdated for gaming if you don’t have more than eight cores—having a single CPU with cache all in one place would be preferable for games. I thought pairing a 1600 with a 1080 ti was a bit extreme back then, as it was GPU-limited at 1440 and the 1600 with fast RAM now outperforms the 7700k in many threaded titles. I plan to get a 5600 non X for use with an RX 7800xt targeting 4K, unless the 5800x3d becomes more affordable.
Right now, you can find Z690 boards equipped with flashback at a lower cost, around $150, which is cheaper than AM5 models. Newegg also lists pre-orders for Z790 boards priced under $300. The price for the i5-13600KF has increased. Current listings show it at $310 and MSI Z790-P at $249.
My overall impression: the 12th generation and Zen4 IPC are quite similar. In single-thread performance, Intel is currently lagging because after eight P-cores they rely on E-cores for extra speed, while AMD uses all cores at full capacity. For gaming, the 12900K and new Zen4 chips perform almost identically. In multi-threaded tasks, the E-cores don’t match AMD’s full-power approach. The 13th gen offers a modest increase in both IPC and frequency. They claim about a 15% boost for single threads and a 41% improvement for multiple cores. Most of this gain comes from higher frequencies and better refinement, with some extra from more E-cores. If I had to predict, the 13th gen should edge out slightly in single-thread tasks, benefiting gaming and less thread-intensive applications. It aims to bridge the gap by adding more E-cores, which could help close the performance difference with the higher-core-count models, though it may not fully close the gap. Probably, neither choice is a clear winner—just keep it in mind for reference.
Too costly, honestly. For top gaming performance and serious spending, go for the 7800X3D and accept high prices in February (announcement). Don’t spend more than $300 on a motherboard or you’ll lose it.
Sure, I don't fully trust e cores, though hyperthreading does happen sometimes. Intel offers solid value with DDR4. It would get even more affordable once the 13th generation comes out, especially if you're in the U.S. and can pick it up at a local microcenter (I'm not).
Found some changes to consider. You can pair the i5-13600KF (preorder price increased on Newegg at $310) with a budget MSI Z690 DDR5 Wi-Fi for $160. It has flashback issues and seems to have an update available as of July, including new chip support. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A/support#bios