Checking vehicle compatibility and its level.
Checking vehicle compatibility and its level.
Hello, I'm reviewing this memory [link provided]. My parts list points to a 2x16GB 4000 CL18 model. Are you sure it will work at 4000 MHz and is it dual or single channel? From G Skill's notes, they suggest the Z460 chipset, which isn't compatible with the 12th generation. You mentioned not needing the Z690 and thinking B660 would suffice—correct? Let me know your thoughts on the memory and parts list. Thanks!
If you're not planning to overclock, consider saving your funds and opt for a 12700 instead—it saves $50 and offers similar results (within 5%). You might also choose a dual tower cooler rather than the NH-U14S. The Scythe Fuma 2 Rev. B is more affordable, delivers better performance, and remains very quiet. I’d likely pick a more budget-friendly SSD (you won’t feel the difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4 unless you need advanced features), and select quieter fans (around $30 would suit Noctua options).
Regarding RAM: it should fit your setup. If it doesn’t, don’t be surprised. Whether XMP support applies is another matter. The Gigabyte DDR4 layout on LGA 1700 isn’t great—especially in the lower tiers (like 4400MHz), you’re limited to around 3600MHz with tuning, unless you’re using a Z690 board. The locked Alder Lake chips also lack proper VCCSA control, making it tough to push beyond that. Performance gaps between 3600MHz and 4000MHz CL18 aren’t huge, so I wouldn’t stress too much. But saving on RAM would be wise.
As for the specs: whether single or dual rank isn’t obvious. A 32GB DIMM signals dual rank, while an 8GB one suggests single rank. Most 4GB modules can’t be single rank in DDR4 without special setups. The 3200MHz CL14 is dedicated to Samsung B die, so a 16GB stick would be dual rank. That option seems overpriced ($40+) for what it offers.
If you’re looking for dual rank at 4000MHz, it’s possible but not guaranteed. Kits with guaranteed dual rank are cheaper and often available in the same price range. If you need more bang for your buck, go for a 3200MHz CL16 kit—available for $100-130—and it will be dual rank.
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The listings seem focused mainly on reducing costs. You can find a 1000W supernova GT for $140 if you’re after any reason. It appears the company is trimming expenses on aesthetics and non-essential parts like Gen4 SSDs, even upgrading the board to a Z690 since it matched the price. If you still want Gen4, there are Gammix S70 blades around $120 that offer similar performance to a 980 Pro 3. For Rams the Tridentz Royals, these options are surprisingly affordable considering they’re just bin kits. At $180, it’s a reasonable price for good bin builds.
You should be able to hit around 4000 cl14/13 depending on your inbox size and gear choice (1.65-1.75v is recommended due to cooling limits and imc wear concerns above 1.7v). Dual-rank models shouldn’t clock high, so you won’t exceed 4200 rpm.
You can likely reach 4000 cl14/13 with a 1.6-1.7v setup, though expect at most 5000 rpm if you push higher. Lowering to 1.6v is better, and avoid these models unless you’re certain.
For 4000 cl18 Ripjaws v, it’s likely a micron-rev 16Gb rev B build—best run at gear 2 for speed, but aim for around 4800mhz instead of higher. Cl18/17 models won’t be much better.
Using 1.6-1.7v is preferable; the 3600 cl18 TForce is best if you want to skip RAM bottlenecks and stick with stock RAM, which may only give a 5-10% boost in heavy workloads. It’s unlikely to notice much unless you’re doing demanding tasks.
Some listings might include BDie options, but that seems unlikely given the timing issues. The 3600 cl18 TForce is ideal if you prefer not to worry about RAM speed.
For those wanting more performance, consider stock RAM or higher-end builds, but expect limited gains unless you’re pushing extreme limits.
Thank you for your thorough response. I'll evaluate the alternative RAM choices and assess whether switching kits makes sense. I was planning to use a single tower cooler to highlight the gold accents on the Ram kits (lol), but the OLOy link you shared also seems promising. I'll review the coolers you mentioned to ensure good visibility for the memory. The Noctua D15S appears to offer a decent viewing angle as well, with a single fan and dual tower configuration. I made a mistake earlier and didn't finalize the parts list accurately—everything looks correct except that I was actually aiming for a more budget-friendly setup using an Asus motherboard and possibly a Wi-Fi card later on. Here’s the parts list for the Asus board: [link].
For the CPU, I’m new to the details, so switching to the 12700 would mean sacrificing about 1.5/0.1GHz. The comparison link you provided looks helpful. Regarding the SSD, I chose it for speed and durability ratings; its TBW rating is significantly higher than most competitors, which seems like a smart investment. I suppose that added reliability is worth it. Since I don’t do heavy writing often, I’m considering it mainly for stability. The NZXT fans are there because I appreciate their look, but I might explore other options as well.
It seems the discussion focuses on how memory variations won’t significantly impact practical applications. The reviewer appreciates the concise selection you provided, noting it’s a solid example with integrated RGB fans—perfect for 95 watts.
They aren't B die. The model is 4000 CL18-22-22-42. The CL18 isn't responsible for B die; it's the tRCD and tRP that determine whether something is B die. The 4000 tRCD 22 doesn’t trigger B die, which rules out most of the typical ICs, though it can still be versatile. The Scythe Fuma 2 offers decent RAM visibility (only one slot on my Z170 OC Formula). Choose Rev. B for the included LGA 1700 hardware and a faster fan—just use the standard speed if needed. It’s also $50 cheaper than the D15S and comes in blacked out, which is a nice feature. You’d lose about .1GHz under load, which is minimal. Under heavy use, the CPU won’t drop to base frequency, so you won’t see a noticeable slowdown. I’ve had SSDs in gaming systems for 5–10 years and they still retain 90% of their write capacity. It’s a good investment if you value reliability over raw speed.
Generally, the majority of Tridentz Royals appear outside the common categories like 3200 cl16 and 3600 cl18, with exceptions being rare.
The royals are just a heat spreader. There is literally no difference between a 4000 CL18-22-22-42 royals kit and a Ripjaws V kit. They're binned just like everything else. Also, IMO there is no difference between a 3600 CL18-22-22-42 bin and a 4000 CL18-22-22-42 bin. They're both very meh bins. Biggest difference is that the 4000 bin can't be C die.
They could also be other variants such as micron 16GbRT or similar technologies.
I'm mostly familiar with 8Gb drives so treat it accordingly. DJR, Good CJR, roughly Samsung 16Gb M drives can handle that (note: not a die loss, though I think Hynix has some capable options). Micron stuff too, and I think there are a few more but can't recall them right now. Edited June 7, 2022 by RONOTHAN##