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I began a new discussion here with additional information. How many CPUs with a MSI Z690 are impacted by this? I own a 13900k with an MSI Z690. My goal is to determine whether this affects most CPUs or just a limited number, and whether it represents a widespread defect or an isolated issue. I’m finding it challenging to understand the root cause and extent of the problem through YouTube explanations. So far, my system hasn’t shown any issues, but I’m concerned about future reliability. - Are these problems affecting most CPUs produced, or is it a rare occurrence? - Is the production date relevant? I purchased my CPU last summer. - Does the motherboard manufacturer influence this situation? - What is TVB’s role here? - Here are my current settings: I don’t use thermal velocity boost or manual overclocking. Power limits are set to unlimited. I ran Cinebench to assess performance. Core voltages during the test were around 1.315 volts on all P cores, with a peak of 1.429 volts according to HWINFO (average 1.27). The CPU drew about 310 watts, peaking at 353 watts. - I’m using a LT720 cooler. Initially, it kept the CPU below 100°C on all cores until the final 30 seconds of a 10-minute Cinebench session. Now it seems to have failed, reaching 100°C almost instantly but still maintaining better clock speeds than other coolers I’ve tried. The lowest P-core clock during the test was roughly 5350 MHz, with a maximum of 5486 MHz on my system.
I’d just use and appreciate your CPU. Right now it’s beyond your control, so worrying won’t make a difference. <-- A 13900k user—maybe consider underclocking or undervolting. It might not last long, or it could be fine. Better enjoy it and deal with issues only when they arise.
If you're unsure, assume the problem exists—it's likely the cause. For gaming, disable E-cores and set P-cores to 5.5–5.7 with a fixed v-core of 1.3–1.35. Optimal frequency/voltage varies by chip, but your 14900KF has performed well since purchase, showing no signs of wear. It runs efficiently in the low to mid-80s under Cinebench with a similar cooling setup and a less aggressive fan profile. If you're buying Intel, it's best to avoid stock configuration. If you've experienced degradation while running stock, options are limited.
Concerning the oxidation problem for the 13th generation, we still lack clarity—they've consistently avoided providing a clear explanation. As for stability issues caused by degradation, this is something that could affect any 13th or 14th generation chip at this stage. All the information we have up to now comes from the GN video released last night, but I won't link it since you mentioned you don't watch them. Of course, if the CPU is functioning properly, you can continue using it. Stay updated on BIOS releases if you want to keep track of this changing situation.
The overvoltage/microcode problem could impact all Intel 13th and 14th generation CPUs, though it won't harm the chip if voltage stays below 1.5V. Motherboard specifications aren't crucial in this case. The suggested "maximum power" configurations don't seem to trigger more frequent overheating cooling events, and the issue appears unrelated to heat. Regarding the 13th generation oxidation concern, it's unclear whether it affects only specific batches or all, and Intel seems reluctant to discuss it.
This might reduce the speed of degradation without severely impacting performance (<1.3x). If it still fails, a warranty replacement is possible. Technically, you could also push the chip beyond 1.5x while maintaining cooling and getting a replacement anyway due to ongoing degradation issues.
Synchronize all cores with the multi-core clock. Adjust the single-core boost to a lower voltage, aiming for the minimum possible. The boost voltage can go up to 1.6V per core, but this shouldn’t affect gaming performance since games will still run smoothly on multiple cores.
The required voltage is around 1.5 volts to maintain stability. Many users suggest restricting CPU clock speeds or voltages. The maximum voltage observed is approximately 1.43, and under typical loads I haven’t seen cores exceeding 1.4 volts. Monitoring via HWINFO across multiple cores in various games and workloads shows voltages staying within the low to medium 1.3 range. Recent CineBench tests and a Davinci Resolve run confirmed these patterns. It appears there are two main concerns with Intel chips: microcode-related overvoltage and oxidation problems. With oxidation, it seems the risk is minimal. Regarding overvoltage, does this only happen when power settings are unlocked? Or can it occur even with PL1 and PL2 set to 125/253? If I don’t see voltages above 1.5, why are I being limited on clock speeds?
Everyone is suggesting this. Check out the newest Techquicky video too. If you need a personal take, just dial down the power limits as much as you can. Cutting back on power caps will also assist (especially if you're still using the unlimited setting instead of the default Intel profile). Aim for a bit more efficiency without sacrificing much performance. Reducing the clock speed by a few hundred MHz can help, though it will naturally lower performance. Make sure your cooling system is adequate since temperatures influence voltages. Based on what I know, it seems like a general issue, but Intel and others might have identified specific parts. These 13th and 14th generation chips tend to be very aggressive, which is causing problems. For those impacted who can't or haven't received an RMA, Techquicke explained it clearly. In short, lowering your processor's clock speed slightly should improve stability. If you want more, turning off C-states can also boost steadiness. Raising the voltages might help too, but I'm unsure if it will worsen things further—you might need even higher voltages then. It would be wise to test if any cores are faulty and adjust their speed accordingly, keeping others at full capacity.
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