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Lafille
Junior Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#11
I believe you meant between 240 and 360, and that's correct. I don't really focus on the refresh rate as long as it meets a minimum of 144Hz. What matters most is image quality, though manufacturers often push for very high refresh rates too. I'm quite satisfied with my current monitor, except for text clarity, which I think could improve with QD-OLED compared to WOLED. That's why I'm thinking about upgrading the display.
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Lafille
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #11

I believe you meant between 240 and 360, and that's correct. I don't really focus on the refresh rate as long as it meets a minimum of 144Hz. What matters most is image quality, though manufacturers often push for very high refresh rates too. I'm quite satisfied with my current monitor, except for text clarity, which I think could improve with QD-OLED compared to WOLED. That's why I'm thinking about upgrading the display.

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MineaBeef
Junior Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#12
It's interesting you're considering upgrading 10700KF—it doesn't seem slow or lacking in core count. It's an i7 and definitely not outdated. The 7800x3D model works without an AIO, just a powerful tower like Phantom Spirit 120 SE or AG620 for its intended use. While there are minor differences, the 14900K offers significantly higher power usage and heat output compared to it.
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MineaBeef
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #12

It's interesting you're considering upgrading 10700KF—it doesn't seem slow or lacking in core count. It's an i7 and definitely not outdated. The 7800x3D model works without an AIO, just a powerful tower like Phantom Spirit 120 SE or AG620 for its intended use. While there are minor differences, the 14900K offers significantly higher power usage and heat output compared to it.

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ProSniper15
Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#13
That is a very good point and I would normally agree. I usually upgrade the CPU every ~5years, but what really triggered this decision is Dragon's Dogma 2 From what I saw in reviews, both 14700K and 7800X3D are around 50% faster in 1440p games then the 10700K, albeit on a 4090. But since my GPU is nowhere near capped in DD2 in a city scene, I expect around the same perf uplift. I know that even the 14900K struggles with DD2 as it's horribly optimized, but still, i would much rather have 50fps in the city then 35-40 as I currently have. Another big argument for upgrading now is the timing. I intend to upgrade the GPU soon, probably to a 5080 (or go AMD if they manage to be competitive in Ray Tracing) early next year. So i would rather spread the financial burden in 2 parts, rather then having to update the CPU+GPU around the same time. You are correct, but when I started researching for an AIO I was pretty much focusing on the 14700K. And also i tried to OC the 10700K to 5.1Ghz, and it was reaching 95-100°C on a beefy air cooler (be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4). Also, i was thinking of moving the heat outside the case as summers get pretty hot here, and with the closed case even at the current speed ([email protected]) the CPU reaches ~80ºC And thirdly I never had an AIO, and I thought I might give it a try But, I have not decided yet if I go AIO or not, unless I go for the 14700K, which I am beginning to doubt very much
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ProSniper15
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #13

That is a very good point and I would normally agree. I usually upgrade the CPU every ~5years, but what really triggered this decision is Dragon's Dogma 2 From what I saw in reviews, both 14700K and 7800X3D are around 50% faster in 1440p games then the 10700K, albeit on a 4090. But since my GPU is nowhere near capped in DD2 in a city scene, I expect around the same perf uplift. I know that even the 14900K struggles with DD2 as it's horribly optimized, but still, i would much rather have 50fps in the city then 35-40 as I currently have. Another big argument for upgrading now is the timing. I intend to upgrade the GPU soon, probably to a 5080 (or go AMD if they manage to be competitive in Ray Tracing) early next year. So i would rather spread the financial burden in 2 parts, rather then having to update the CPU+GPU around the same time. You are correct, but when I started researching for an AIO I was pretty much focusing on the 14700K. And also i tried to OC the 10700K to 5.1Ghz, and it was reaching 95-100°C on a beefy air cooler (be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4). Also, i was thinking of moving the heat outside the case as summers get pretty hot here, and with the closed case even at the current speed ([email protected]) the CPU reaches ~80ºC And thirdly I never had an AIO, and I thought I might give it a try But, I have not decided yet if I go AIO or not, unless I go for the 14700K, which I am beginning to doubt very much

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rektyourmom21
Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#14
For pure gaming, the 7800X3D offers better speed and efficiency. You don’t need the expensive LianLi GoldHahad cooling solution—any air cooler under $40 works just fine. The 14700K is solid for both gaming and productivity thanks to its many eco-friendly features.
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rektyourmom21
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #14

For pure gaming, the 7800X3D offers better speed and efficiency. You don’t need the expensive LianLi GoldHahad cooling solution—any air cooler under $40 works just fine. The 14700K is solid for both gaming and productivity thanks to its many eco-friendly features.

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monkeyboo2004
Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#15
But does your 10700k affect the gameplay negatively or create a poor experience? A 50% increase isn't enough to justify the purchase unless you avoid bad experiences. Just as you wouldn't upgrade to a faster SSD simply because it loads in half the time, a budget CPU can still run smoothly at 60 FPS. Some games actually perform well even with older hardware, so a decent thermal paste might help. The main issue might be cooling—better fans could suffice. If you're considering a 7800x3D or B650 motherboard, or DDR5 RAM, those are likely the bigger factors. A 14900k processor would probably be enough for that setup, and swapping boards again adds extra cost.
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monkeyboo2004
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #15

But does your 10700k affect the gameplay negatively or create a poor experience? A 50% increase isn't enough to justify the purchase unless you avoid bad experiences. Just as you wouldn't upgrade to a faster SSD simply because it loads in half the time, a budget CPU can still run smoothly at 60 FPS. Some games actually perform well even with older hardware, so a decent thermal paste might help. The main issue might be cooling—better fans could suffice. If you're considering a 7800x3D or B650 motherboard, or DDR5 RAM, those are likely the bigger factors. A 14900k processor would probably be enough for that setup, and swapping boards again adds extra cost.

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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#16
It's often not worth it to beat a 14900ks with a 7800x3d, as that won't really make a difference. You can also keep a 7800x3d cool with a decent air cooler—something like the Thermalright PEERLESS ASSASSIN at $40—that’s really effective. Since performance matters most here, the 7800x3d is just a better CPU option.
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gingerdawson13
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #16

It's often not worth it to beat a 14900ks with a 7800x3d, as that won't really make a difference. You can also keep a 7800x3d cool with a decent air cooler—something like the Thermalright PEERLESS ASSASSIN at $40—that’s really effective. Since performance matters most here, the 7800x3d is just a better CPU option.

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Isabelle665
Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#17
They already own Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, a fresh thermal paste might be useful and static pressure fans could assist if the sealed case lacks empty spaces.
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Isabelle665
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #17

They already own Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, a fresh thermal paste might be useful and static pressure fans could assist if the sealed case lacks empty spaces.

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Sim_r
Junior Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#18
For me, 60 frames per second is the absolute minimum. Anything lower isn't acceptable. As I mentioned before in DD2, I usually get around 35-40 fps in the city, so increasing it to 50-60 would be a major boost. I understand that such a costly upgrade isn't worth it for just one game, but there are other factors too. DD2 was just the last reason I considered; jumping from 120 to 180 has almost no effect on how smooth it feels, while going from 30 to 50 makes a big difference, at least for me. I don’t know what the current offers are, since I wasn’t tracking AMD prices, but I see the 7800X3D is around 400 EUR. For the motherboard, I’m planning an X670 chipset, likely a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX or an Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS, both roughly 300-320 EUR. Regarding RAM, I’ll probably choose the G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000MHz CL30, costing about 140-150 EUR.
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Sim_r
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #18

For me, 60 frames per second is the absolute minimum. Anything lower isn't acceptable. As I mentioned before in DD2, I usually get around 35-40 fps in the city, so increasing it to 50-60 would be a major boost. I understand that such a costly upgrade isn't worth it for just one game, but there are other factors too. DD2 was just the last reason I considered; jumping from 120 to 180 has almost no effect on how smooth it feels, while going from 30 to 50 makes a big difference, at least for me. I don’t know what the current offers are, since I wasn’t tracking AMD prices, but I see the 7800X3D is around 400 EUR. For the motherboard, I’m planning an X670 chipset, likely a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX or an Asus TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS, both roughly 300-320 EUR. Regarding RAM, I’ll probably choose the G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000MHz CL30, costing about 140-150 EUR.

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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#19
The x670 is a focused choice for running a 7950x. It covers your needs without unnecessary features. The b650 ds3h can handle it too, but nothing significant changes performance. The gigabyte 650 ax at 150€ offers solid speed with no major differences. No extra cost for basic functionality.
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iIPotatoChipIi
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #19

The x670 is a focused choice for running a 7950x. It covers your needs without unnecessary features. The b650 ds3h can handle it too, but nothing significant changes performance. The gigabyte 650 ax at 150€ offers solid speed with no major differences. No extra cost for basic functionality.

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King_Dogeman
Junior Member
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07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
#20
are you sure this is hardware and not a game problem? I'd reckon those barely reaching 60fps could also be choppy on 14700k even though it's more consistent you don't need 300€ MB for 7800x3D, even 7900x, they can run on cheaper specific motherboards
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King_Dogeman
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM #20

are you sure this is hardware and not a game problem? I'd reckon those barely reaching 60fps could also be choppy on 14700k even though it's more consistent you don't need 300€ MB for 7800x3D, even 7900x, they can run on cheaper specific motherboards

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