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Change ASUS MMO to Gen 3 PCIe instead of Gen 4

Change ASUS MMO to Gen 3 PCIe instead of Gen 4

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JumboRobby7
Junior Member
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08-13-2021, 09:30 PM
#1
I possess an ASUS ROG Strix Z590-E gaming Wi-Fi motherboard and I’m attempting to connect a 2.5-inch SSD. My processor is a 10th generation Intel CPU, so I understand I can’t use the 4th generation model. I also recall that the first slot only supports 11th generation CPUs, which seems odd but I’ll go with it. I’m hoping to utilize the second and third slots if possible, since the fourth slot is shared with my graphics card and will operate at 8x speed. I have a 3090 and haven’t spent much money just to keep it running at 8x instead of 16x. Realistically, 8x performance isn’t too bad, but when you invest around $1800 in a GPU (with a 25% tariff in ‘Mercia gotta love it), I want every frame to be smooth. I reached out to ASUS customer support online and they simply advised using the third and fourth slots for the 10th generation CPU, but can I somehow make the second slot work with a 3rd generation chip? It feels unreasonable that half my slots won’t function if I can’t use the 4th and need a BIOS fix. I understand the physical connections must be there from the CPU through the motherboard, but if it supports Gen 4, why not Gen 3? Edit: A few people mentioned that PCIe standards claim Gen 4 should be backward compatible with Gen 3, so plugging it in should work on Gen 3 if Gen 4 isn’t available. This isn’t true even though it should be. There’s no BIOS setting to change the PCIe generation for the first two slots—only to switch them to SATA or NVMe. I tested both drives in all slots, and they never appear in the first two regardless of BIOS adjustments, but they show up right after swapping them to the third and fourth slots. I’m frustrated because at the moment, ASUS can’t explain why and has left my request pending for a while despite promising a response within 48 hours. I’m considering telling them to replace the motherboard since it should work without using the third and fourth slots, which would waste half the GPU bandwidth. Plus, I have three M.2 drives and really don’t want to risk damaging my 10th generation CPU by spending another $500+ on an 11th generation one just to fit the slots on the board. Updated: November 17, 2021 – EdanMaus95
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JumboRobby7
08-13-2021, 09:30 PM #1

I possess an ASUS ROG Strix Z590-E gaming Wi-Fi motherboard and I’m attempting to connect a 2.5-inch SSD. My processor is a 10th generation Intel CPU, so I understand I can’t use the 4th generation model. I also recall that the first slot only supports 11th generation CPUs, which seems odd but I’ll go with it. I’m hoping to utilize the second and third slots if possible, since the fourth slot is shared with my graphics card and will operate at 8x speed. I have a 3090 and haven’t spent much money just to keep it running at 8x instead of 16x. Realistically, 8x performance isn’t too bad, but when you invest around $1800 in a GPU (with a 25% tariff in ‘Mercia gotta love it), I want every frame to be smooth. I reached out to ASUS customer support online and they simply advised using the third and fourth slots for the 10th generation CPU, but can I somehow make the second slot work with a 3rd generation chip? It feels unreasonable that half my slots won’t function if I can’t use the 4th and need a BIOS fix. I understand the physical connections must be there from the CPU through the motherboard, but if it supports Gen 4, why not Gen 3? Edit: A few people mentioned that PCIe standards claim Gen 4 should be backward compatible with Gen 3, so plugging it in should work on Gen 3 if Gen 4 isn’t available. This isn’t true even though it should be. There’s no BIOS setting to change the PCIe generation for the first two slots—only to switch them to SATA or NVMe. I tested both drives in all slots, and they never appear in the first two regardless of BIOS adjustments, but they show up right after swapping them to the third and fourth slots. I’m frustrated because at the moment, ASUS can’t explain why and has left my request pending for a while despite promising a response within 48 hours. I’m considering telling them to replace the motherboard since it should work without using the third and fourth slots, which would waste half the GPU bandwidth. Plus, I have three M.2 drives and really don’t want to risk damaging my 10th generation CPU by spending another $500+ on an 11th generation one just to fit the slots on the board. Updated: November 17, 2021 – EdanMaus95

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Frostoc
Junior Member
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08-13-2021, 09:39 PM
#2
Simply connect it to the first port. The Gen 4 model works backward with Gen 3, so you shouldn't have any issues.
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Frostoc
08-13-2021, 09:39 PM #2

Simply connect it to the first port. The Gen 4 model works backward with Gen 3, so you shouldn't have any issues.

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08-31-2021, 06:08 AM
#3
That's what I thought, though I've seen some discussions online where others faced issues. Since I'm out of state, I'll attempt it again once I return.
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x_HmOoDy_KsA_x
08-31-2021, 06:08 AM #3

That's what I thought, though I've seen some discussions online where others faced issues. Since I'm out of state, I'll attempt it again once I return.

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ItsAge
Member
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08-31-2021, 06:38 AM
#4
It's surprising someone from ASUS would say no.
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ItsAge
08-31-2021, 06:38 AM #4

It's surprising someone from ASUS would say no.

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Waddlerz
Junior Member
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08-31-2021, 02:11 PM
#5
It might be a translation issue or a slight confusion. They likely intended the first slot is your sole Gen 4 option, not just that it can only support Gen 4. The PCIe standard needs backward compatibility between generations to avoid damaging existing devices.
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Waddlerz
08-31-2021, 02:11 PM #5

It might be a translation issue or a slight confusion. They likely intended the first slot is your sole Gen 4 option, not just that it can only support Gen 4. The PCIe standard needs backward compatibility between generations to avoid damaging existing devices.

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dasfuss
Member
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08-31-2021, 03:51 PM
#6
This way of thinking suggests slots 1 and 2 support Gen 4, while the instructions from ASUS state you can't use the first one with a 10th generation CPU, which is confusing for you.
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dasfuss
08-31-2021, 03:51 PM #6

This way of thinking suggests slots 1 and 2 support Gen 4, while the instructions from ASUS state you can't use the first one with a 10th generation CPU, which is confusing for you.

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Arnox42
Junior Member
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09-02-2021, 03:00 PM
#7
It's unusual, but worth attempting at least for now. If that fails, the second and third options seem most promising.
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Arnox42
09-02-2021, 03:00 PM #7

It's unusual, but worth attempting at least for now. If that fails, the second and third options seem most promising.

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SoulzReaped
Member
217
09-10-2021, 10:35 AM
#8
I’m currently speaking with ASUS to get their perspective. I checked the PCIe standards, which are uniformly set by a group known as the SIG (Special Interest Group). More than 900 companies support this, so it should be reliable in either direction. Curious to see their stance.
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SoulzReaped
09-10-2021, 10:35 AM #8

I’m currently speaking with ASUS to get their perspective. I checked the PCIe standards, which are uniformly set by a group known as the SIG (Special Interest Group). More than 900 companies support this, so it should be reliable in either direction. Curious to see their stance.

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mistercraft77
Posting Freak
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09-11-2021, 02:46 PM
#9
After speaking with ASUS again, the representative mentioned he couldn’t find a method in the manual or internal system to switch from Gen 4 to Gen 3 manually in BIOS. I’ve been moved up to a higher support tier. I plan to attempt a straight plug-and-play setup when I’m back home, but I remain doubtful since some users reported issues with my specific motherboard and CPU.
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mistercraft77
09-11-2021, 02:46 PM #9

After speaking with ASUS again, the representative mentioned he couldn’t find a method in the manual or internal system to switch from Gen 4 to Gen 3 manually in BIOS. I’ve been moved up to a higher support tier. I plan to attempt a straight plug-and-play setup when I’m back home, but I remain doubtful since some users reported issues with my specific motherboard and CPU.

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ZeusTrucker
Member
221
09-11-2021, 10:54 PM
#10
I understand many users face problems with Gen3/4 regarding risers, but simply connecting the card usually resolves the issue.
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ZeusTrucker
09-11-2021, 10:54 PM #10

I understand many users face problems with Gen3/4 regarding risers, but simply connecting the card usually resolves the issue.