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Can't push Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 to 3.16GHz when it's already unlocked; need urgent assistance

Can't push Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 to 3.16GHz when it's already unlocked; need urgent assistance

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caltemus
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11-11-2024, 11:30 PM
#21
The video, despite its instability, provides valuable insights. It seems the motherboard's NB strap is labeled as "(G)MCH frequency latch", which might refer to (Gigabyte) Memory Controller Hub Frequency Latch. Initially, I would adjust the "Fine CPU clock ratio" to 0.0, opting for a 9x instead of 9.5x, since I prefer leaving that extra 0.5 for later stages.

Next, configure the "(G)MCH frequency latch" to 333, which offers the most stability, and set the "System Memory Multiplier" to 3.20B. The video indicates the Vcore is set at 1.29375V, which is slightly too high for starting. I’d consider lowering it to 1.27500V. For "CPU Termination", keeping it normal or adjusting it to 1.20V would be better. I wouldn’t raise it further, as it might signal a need for board calibration.

Typically, I begin overclocking in 10-second increments, then switch to 5-second steps for the CPU host frequency. While Martell1977 suggests running prime95 for extended periods, I usually finish overclocking first and then test with prime95(small FFTs) for about 30 minutes. This helps verify if sufficient voltage reaches the CPU initially. Running CPU-z is also recommended to gauge voltage levels. Because of Vdroop, idle voltages appear higher than load times; pushing the CPU harder reduces voltage. Eventually, insufficient power could cause errors or a BSOD. The E8500 generally handles 1.20V at load well.

Don’t forget to run Memtest afterward for stability checks. A tool like Rufus can create a bootable USB from it.

Here are some links to builds with similar setups playing Need for Speed Rivals:
- E8400 + GTX 650: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJK7Uelbg_Q
- E8500 + GTX 750Ti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeL_jD50Nf4
- E8500 + GT 430: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt8C07SHnrk

Your GPU is already decent. You might just need to complete your CPU overclock before proceeding. An E8500 at 3.7GHz should perform similarly to a non-overclocked i3-2120 without hyperthreading.
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caltemus
11-11-2024, 11:30 PM #21

The video, despite its instability, provides valuable insights. It seems the motherboard's NB strap is labeled as "(G)MCH frequency latch", which might refer to (Gigabyte) Memory Controller Hub Frequency Latch. Initially, I would adjust the "Fine CPU clock ratio" to 0.0, opting for a 9x instead of 9.5x, since I prefer leaving that extra 0.5 for later stages.

Next, configure the "(G)MCH frequency latch" to 333, which offers the most stability, and set the "System Memory Multiplier" to 3.20B. The video indicates the Vcore is set at 1.29375V, which is slightly too high for starting. I’d consider lowering it to 1.27500V. For "CPU Termination", keeping it normal or adjusting it to 1.20V would be better. I wouldn’t raise it further, as it might signal a need for board calibration.

Typically, I begin overclocking in 10-second increments, then switch to 5-second steps for the CPU host frequency. While Martell1977 suggests running prime95 for extended periods, I usually finish overclocking first and then test with prime95(small FFTs) for about 30 minutes. This helps verify if sufficient voltage reaches the CPU initially. Running CPU-z is also recommended to gauge voltage levels. Because of Vdroop, idle voltages appear higher than load times; pushing the CPU harder reduces voltage. Eventually, insufficient power could cause errors or a BSOD. The E8500 generally handles 1.20V at load well.

Don’t forget to run Memtest afterward for stability checks. A tool like Rufus can create a bootable USB from it.

Here are some links to builds with similar setups playing Need for Speed Rivals:
- E8400 + GTX 650: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJK7Uelbg_Q
- E8500 + GTX 750Ti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeL_jD50Nf4
- E8500 + GT 430: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt8C07SHnrk

Your GPU is already decent. You might just need to complete your CPU overclock before proceeding. An E8500 at 3.7GHz should perform similarly to a non-overclocked i3-2120 without hyperthreading.

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theactrics
Junior Member
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11-11-2024, 11:30 PM
#22
I followed your instructions by adjusting the (G)MCH to 333, setting the system memory multiplier to 3.20B, and lowering the vcore to 1.23750v. It functioned properly on the 343x9.5 board. When I increased the CPU frequency slightly to 344x9.0, the system crashed and entered safe mode, reverting to default settings. I then reset the previous configurations and attempted to raise the EAM voltage to 1.6v, but it still failed to boot. I’m wondering if changing the RAM timings might be necessary? Please let me know.
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theactrics
11-11-2024, 11:30 PM #22

I followed your instructions by adjusting the (G)MCH to 333, setting the system memory multiplier to 3.20B, and lowering the vcore to 1.23750v. It functioned properly on the 343x9.5 board. When I increased the CPU frequency slightly to 344x9.0, the system crashed and entered safe mode, reverting to default settings. I then reset the previous configurations and attempted to raise the EAM voltage to 1.6v, but it still failed to boot. I’m wondering if changing the RAM timings might be necessary? Please let me know.

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Tim9810
Member
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11-11-2024, 11:30 PM
#23
So far it appears to be functioning well up to 344FSB. Fascinating. At this stage, return to your settings for 343x9.5. Maintain the System Memory voltage at 1.5V, which should suffice. Before adjusting the RAM timings, it would be best to run Memtest with the CPU set to 343x9.5. The sudden change in FSB seems to cause boot failures, so testing Memtest now could provide useful insights. If errors appear, we might consider manually setting the RAM timings or even loosening them to see if that resolves the issue. It’s also possible a faulty RAM stick is present, even with standard configurations. For now, proceed with Memtest using the stable overclock and let us know the outcome. Running it again with default settings for comparison would also be beneficial.
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Tim9810
11-11-2024, 11:30 PM #23

So far it appears to be functioning well up to 344FSB. Fascinating. At this stage, return to your settings for 343x9.5. Maintain the System Memory voltage at 1.5V, which should suffice. Before adjusting the RAM timings, it would be best to run Memtest with the CPU set to 343x9.5. The sudden change in FSB seems to cause boot failures, so testing Memtest now could provide useful insights. If errors appear, we might consider manually setting the RAM timings or even loosening them to see if that resolves the issue. It’s also possible a faulty RAM stick is present, even with standard configurations. For now, proceed with Memtest using the stable overclock and let us know the outcome. Running it again with default settings for comparison would also be beneficial.

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samigurl0903
Senior Member
603
11-11-2024, 11:30 PM
#24
Sorry for interrupting an old discussion, but I've achieved stable performance at 4.5Ghz with 1.58v and 473Mhz FSB using the E8500. The Gigabyte Ga-EP31-DS3L board works well. If you need a BIOS photo, just let me know. I haven't adjusted the settings much to optimize them, but I've focused on running it as quickly as possible.
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samigurl0903
11-11-2024, 11:30 PM #24

Sorry for interrupting an old discussion, but I've achieved stable performance at 4.5Ghz with 1.58v and 473Mhz FSB using the E8500. The Gigabyte Ga-EP31-DS3L board works well. If you need a BIOS photo, just let me know. I haven't adjusted the settings much to optimize them, but I've focused on running it as quickly as possible.

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Blaster12121
Member
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11-11-2024, 11:30 PM
#25
Sorry for interrupting an old discussion, but I’ve achieved stable performance with my E8500 at 4.5Ghz using 1.58v and 473Mhz FSB. I’m using a Gigabyte Ga-EP31-DS3L motherboard. If you need a picture of my BIOS, just let me know. I haven’t adjusted the settings much to optimize them, but I’ve focused on running it as quickly as possible.

My issue actually came from the motherboard I have—it only allows me to overclock the CPU by about 343x9.5. The G41 isn’t designed for this, but thanks for understanding.
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Blaster12121
11-11-2024, 11:30 PM #25

Sorry for interrupting an old discussion, but I’ve achieved stable performance with my E8500 at 4.5Ghz using 1.58v and 473Mhz FSB. I’m using a Gigabyte Ga-EP31-DS3L motherboard. If you need a picture of my BIOS, just let me know. I haven’t adjusted the settings much to optimize them, but I’ve focused on running it as quickly as possible.

My issue actually came from the motherboard I have—it only allows me to overclock the CPU by about 343x9.5. The G41 isn’t designed for this, but thanks for understanding.

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