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Can I safely increase my CPU's speed on this machine?

Can I safely increase my CPU's speed on this machine?

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Doctor_J
Junior Member
5
11-01-2023, 06:22 PM
#1
Hello! Could you ask a seasoned person for their opinion? Is the setup you linked secure enough for overclocking your CPU? If yes, by how much should you go? And are there any other adjustments you might need to make? Thanks!
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Doctor_J
11-01-2023, 06:22 PM #1

Hello! Could you ask a seasoned person for their opinion? Is the setup you linked secure enough for overclocking your CPU? If yes, by how much should you go? And are there any other adjustments you might need to make? Thanks!

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Geocentric
Senior Member
250
11-01-2023, 08:00 PM
#2
There is no real justification or space for increasing performance on any Ryzen models from the 3000-5000 series. Reviews and user feedback have repeatedly indicated that improved performance comes from using PBO (Precision boost overdrive), which is typically enabled by default in most BIOS settings, though it's worth verifying. Additionally, even with a high-quality CPU cooler from a well-known brand, it seems unlikely that either of two conditions would be met.
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Geocentric
11-01-2023, 08:00 PM #2

There is no real justification or space for increasing performance on any Ryzen models from the 3000-5000 series. Reviews and user feedback have repeatedly indicated that improved performance comes from using PBO (Precision boost overdrive), which is typically enabled by default in most BIOS settings, though it's worth verifying. Additionally, even with a high-quality CPU cooler from a well-known brand, it seems unlikely that either of two conditions would be met.

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WildfuryX
Junior Member
14
11-07-2023, 01:14 AM
#3
There isn't any real justification or space for overclocking on any of the Ryzen models from the 3000-5000 lineup. Reviews and user feedback have repeatedly indicated that the most significant improvements come from using PBO (Precision boost overdrive), which is typically set by default in most BIOS configurations, though it's worth verifying. Additionally, even with a high-quality CPU cooler from a well-known brand—considered a superior alternative to the standard one—I doubt either of these conditions would be met.

1. It seems sufficient to provide the necessary thermal margin for overclocking to any extent that PBO can handle.
2. It's unlikely you could achieve an overclock that significantly outperforms what PBO offers, making the effort and detailed testing unnecessary.

In reality, these components are already pushed to their limits by design. If performance gains from samples remain consistent with past trends in both the 3000 and 5000 series, the chances of success with an all-core overclock are extremely low. In short, it probably isn't worth your effort, and even if you invest time, you're unlikely to see meaningful improvements beyond what PBO already provides.
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WildfuryX
11-07-2023, 01:14 AM #3

There isn't any real justification or space for overclocking on any of the Ryzen models from the 3000-5000 lineup. Reviews and user feedback have repeatedly indicated that the most significant improvements come from using PBO (Precision boost overdrive), which is typically set by default in most BIOS configurations, though it's worth verifying. Additionally, even with a high-quality CPU cooler from a well-known brand—considered a superior alternative to the standard one—I doubt either of these conditions would be met.

1. It seems sufficient to provide the necessary thermal margin for overclocking to any extent that PBO can handle.
2. It's unlikely you could achieve an overclock that significantly outperforms what PBO offers, making the effort and detailed testing unnecessary.

In reality, these components are already pushed to their limits by design. If performance gains from samples remain consistent with past trends in both the 3000 and 5000 series, the chances of success with an all-core overclock are extremely low. In short, it probably isn't worth your effort, and even if you invest time, you're unlikely to see meaningful improvements beyond what PBO already provides.

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_KaikyRPG_
Member
129
11-07-2023, 07:29 AM
#4
I believe the stock cooler is functioning properly. Thank you!
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_KaikyRPG_
11-07-2023, 07:29 AM #4

I believe the stock cooler is functioning properly. Thank you!

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21bauer21
Junior Member
11
11-07-2023, 10:57 AM
#5
It's not necessary to use the stock cooler if you can avoid it. The stock coolers are quite problematic. In most cases, using a good aftermarket cooler allows you to boost peak performance and duration more effectively than the stock option, since the stock coolers aren't very strong. Additionally, these stock coolers often cause frustrating cyclic fan speed changes that were difficult to manage, even with adjustments to the CPU cooler header or thermal settings. The only valid reason to choose the stock cooler is if you have no other alternatives and cannot afford better options.

I suggest opting for this cooler instead of the Noctua model, unless you're committed to Noctua products. In that case, the NH-U14S or NH-U12A would be suitable choices—they outperform the NH-U12S, look more appealing, and are more affordable. I've tested this cooler on several Ryzen 3600, 3600x, and 3700x configurations, and it performed admirably for under $50. Thermalright has been a leader in the industry for a long time, producing high-quality cooling solutions comparable to Noctua. If you select the right product, I’d recommend slightly better quality and performance from Noctua, mainly due to improved noise levels from better fans.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
($42.99 @ Amazon)
Total:
$42.99
Shipping, taxes, and available discounts are included
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2020-12-23 13:13 EST-0500

If you can afford the NH-U14S or U12A, those are also excellent options for this CPU. In fact, all these models are solid choices, ranging from top to bottom in performance.

Noctua NH-D14 (Replace stock fans with NF-A14 industrialPPC 2000rpm)
Noctua NH-D15/D15 SE-AM4
Noctua NH-D14 (With original fans)
Thermalright Silver arrow IB-E Extreme
Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Universal
Be Quiet Dark rock Pro 4
Thermalright Legrand Macho RT
Phanteks PH-TC14PE (BK,BL, OR or RD)
Deepcool Assassin III
Thermalright Macho X2
Thermalright Macho rev. C
Thermalright Macho rev.B
Thermalright ARO-M14G (Ryzen only)
SilentiumPC Fortis 3 HE1425
Thermalright Macho direct
Deepcool Assassin II
Noctua NH-U14S
Thermalright true spirit 140 Direct
Cryorig H5
FSP Windale 6
Scythe Ninja 5
Scythe Mugen max
Scythe Mugen 5 rev.B
BeQuiet dark rock (3 or 4)
Thermalright Macho SBM
Noctua NH-U12S

It might not be clear, but it’s important to note that not all cooler models are compatible with every CPU socket. Aftermarket coolers usually need adapters designed for specific sockets. Some models fit AMD platforms but may not work with newer AMD or Intel versions. While many come with adapters for multiple platforms, always confirm before buying that a particular cooler will actually fit your system.
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21bauer21
11-07-2023, 10:57 AM #5

It's not necessary to use the stock cooler if you can avoid it. The stock coolers are quite problematic. In most cases, using a good aftermarket cooler allows you to boost peak performance and duration more effectively than the stock option, since the stock coolers aren't very strong. Additionally, these stock coolers often cause frustrating cyclic fan speed changes that were difficult to manage, even with adjustments to the CPU cooler header or thermal settings. The only valid reason to choose the stock cooler is if you have no other alternatives and cannot afford better options.

I suggest opting for this cooler instead of the Noctua model, unless you're committed to Noctua products. In that case, the NH-U14S or NH-U12A would be suitable choices—they outperform the NH-U12S, look more appealing, and are more affordable. I've tested this cooler on several Ryzen 3600, 3600x, and 3700x configurations, and it performed admirably for under $50. Thermalright has been a leader in the industry for a long time, producing high-quality cooling solutions comparable to Noctua. If you select the right product, I’d recommend slightly better quality and performance from Noctua, mainly due to improved noise levels from better fans.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
($42.99 @ Amazon)
Total:
$42.99
Shipping, taxes, and available discounts are included
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2020-12-23 13:13 EST-0500

If you can afford the NH-U14S or U12A, those are also excellent options for this CPU. In fact, all these models are solid choices, ranging from top to bottom in performance.

Noctua NH-D14 (Replace stock fans with NF-A14 industrialPPC 2000rpm)
Noctua NH-D15/D15 SE-AM4
Noctua NH-D14 (With original fans)
Thermalright Silver arrow IB-E Extreme
Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Universal
Be Quiet Dark rock Pro 4
Thermalright Legrand Macho RT
Phanteks PH-TC14PE (BK,BL, OR or RD)
Deepcool Assassin III
Thermalright Macho X2
Thermalright Macho rev. C
Thermalright Macho rev.B
Thermalright ARO-M14G (Ryzen only)
SilentiumPC Fortis 3 HE1425
Thermalright Macho direct
Deepcool Assassin II
Noctua NH-U14S
Thermalright true spirit 140 Direct
Cryorig H5
FSP Windale 6
Scythe Ninja 5
Scythe Mugen max
Scythe Mugen 5 rev.B
BeQuiet dark rock (3 or 4)
Thermalright Macho SBM
Noctua NH-U12S

It might not be clear, but it’s important to note that not all cooler models are compatible with every CPU socket. Aftermarket coolers usually need adapters designed for specific sockets. Some models fit AMD platforms but may not work with newer AMD or Intel versions. While many come with adapters for multiple platforms, always confirm before buying that a particular cooler will actually fit your system.

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mjt2789
Senior Member
483
11-07-2023, 05:49 PM
#6
Alright, good to know. Thanks! I had planned to use a Noctua cooler because I am a complete noob to PC building and I knew that Noctua was a good brand. I’m really fine with anything as long as I know that it will work well.
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mjt2789
11-07-2023, 05:49 PM #6

Alright, good to know. Thanks! I had planned to use a Noctua cooler because I am a complete noob to PC building and I knew that Noctua was a good brand. I’m really fine with anything as long as I know that it will work well.

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yJaaoxD
Member
203
11-07-2023, 09:05 PM
#7
Take care of yourself as well. Since you're just starting out, look for several YouTube videos on setting up the cooler you plan to use before you try it yourself. Also, watch all three parts of the Newegg "build a PC" tutorial series, because even basic information in those videos can be really helpful for someone who has never built a PC before. They may seem obvious, but watching them will still benefit you. If you manage to watch a few more, you'll make the process easier later on.

Always be careful and avoid guessing when building a PC. Be well-informed about each step. Those who make mistakes often end up frustrated and wondering why it happened, which is why we can't help but laugh at their situation. They missed the chance to learn before trying something new. Don't follow that path—educate yourself first, then build.
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yJaaoxD
11-07-2023, 09:05 PM #7

Take care of yourself as well. Since you're just starting out, look for several YouTube videos on setting up the cooler you plan to use before you try it yourself. Also, watch all three parts of the Newegg "build a PC" tutorial series, because even basic information in those videos can be really helpful for someone who has never built a PC before. They may seem obvious, but watching them will still benefit you. If you manage to watch a few more, you'll make the process easier later on.

Always be careful and avoid guessing when building a PC. Be well-informed about each step. Those who make mistakes often end up frustrated and wondering why it happened, which is why we can't help but laugh at their situation. They missed the chance to learn before trying something new. Don't follow that path—educate yourself first, then build.

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TailsGame
Junior Member
14
11-09-2023, 06:03 PM
#8
Sure, I understand. I will make sure to prepare thoroughly.
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TailsGame
11-09-2023, 06:03 PM #8

Sure, I understand. I will make sure to prepare thoroughly.

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BubimasterXD
Junior Member
30
11-10-2023, 01:08 AM
#9
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BubimasterXD
11-10-2023, 01:08 AM #9

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