Building AdviceUpgrade/New PC within a €2500 budget in Spain?
Building AdviceUpgrade/New PC within a €2500 budget in Spain?
Approximate Purchase Date:
Acquired old parts in October 2018
Budget Range:
1500- 2500€
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Gaming (eve online, black desert online), Virtualization, Web/desktop app development, Android emulators, etc.
Are you purchasing a monitor?
Yes, but only one, I require a screen with high resolution so I don’t get stuck at 60fps with non-full-screen mode
Parts to Upgrade:
Likely everything except NVMe drives and possibly the case?
Do you need to install an operating system?
Yes, my Windows license is OEM
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
I only shop on Amazon; they usually provide refunds even when I have problems or ask questions
Location: Spain
Parts Preferences:
I’m considering upgrading to an AMD Ryzen 5 since it seems more affordable but I’m not certain, I’m open to anything as long as it meets my needs
Overclocking:
Maybe occasionally, only for certain tasks, not continuously
SLI or Crossfire:
Maybe
Monitor Resolution: 2560 * 1440
Additional Comments:
I run dual-boot between Windows and Ubuntu, use VMware, play Eve Online and Black Desert, and often have multiple windows open while multitasking, watching videos, movies, and browsing the internet.
Most importantly, why are you upgrading?
Performance problems – my current hardware isn’t delivering optimal results, I already face some issues, so I want a more robust device that can last at least 6-8 years if possible, or at least until now. I’m willing to keep it in good condition; it’s not dead but it’s becoming increasingly frustrating.
Example:
This is my current setup
https://pcbuilder.net/rigs/bxB9w2/
Can you consider removing any components from the earlier setup and keep the entire system intact?
Here are some useful parts I assembled for your build. I’d consider replacing the CPU coolers; you might need to order or ask for a mounting kit from Noctua. Amazon has them if you act quickly.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor (€362.93 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (€40.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX (rev. 1.0) ATX AM5 Motherboard (€305.12 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (€234.36 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (€128.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card (€669.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€105.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX (€143.99 @ Amazon Espana)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit (€129.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Monitor: LG 27GP850-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz (€380.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €2500.19
Prices cover shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
Created by PCPartPicker
2023-08-17 19:36 CEST+0200
I would approach it this way if you prefer not to rely on components from your previous PC.
PCPartPicker Lista de Componentes
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€447.09 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€40.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard:
MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€227.60 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€234.36 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage:
Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€77.27 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage:
Crucial P5 Plus W/Heatsink 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€77.27 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card:
Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card
(€669.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Case:
Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case
(€76.58 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply:
SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€141.81 @ Amazon Espana)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit
(€129.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Monitor:
LG 27GP850-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor
(€380.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Total:
€2500.88
Costs encompass shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
Created by
PCPartPicker
2023-08-17 19:47 CEST+0200
It's unclear if using "heatsink" versions of the SSDs is optimal here. Perhaps copying the 500GB drives to the 1TB would work better, but I think a more compact drive would be preferable and leave space for the 500GB drives if required to support the VMs. That X670 Motherboard includes four M.2 slots for future upgrades.
This enables you to incorporate most of your existing parts. For an LGA-1700 adapter for your CPU cooler, reach out to Noctua. You may need to upgrade your PSU based on your GPU selection.
https://noctua.at/en/webforms/form/preview/id/44
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
*
Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor
(€375.04 @ Coolmod)
Motherboard:
*
Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
(€239.75 @ LIFE Informatica)
Total:
€614.79
Prices cover shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
*Selected components based on predefined parameters
Created by
PCPartPicker
2023-08-17 23:05 CEST+0200
The sku featuring the heatsink was in stock while the alternative wasn't, though both came at different prices. It's always worth using the heatsinks that come with them since they perform better than the ones included on the motherboards anyway. I picked two 1tb drives because he has experience with dual booting and virtual machines before. Additionally, the board I chose includes a third NVMe port for a storage SSD.
I would suggest updating your mobile BIOS, installing the 5800X3D, and using a GPU capable of running games at 2K. A fresh OS install along with software updates could also be beneficial. Your other older parts are top-tier and make excellent selections.
The impact of improving performance compared to purchasing a fully upgraded high-end system from scratch is significant, especially if you're working with limited funds. Reusing existing disks and PSU can make a big difference. Also, adding more RAM with a new BIOS might offer better returns than spending heavily on a new motherboard.
You have two additional RAM slots available for your mobile device. You also have the choice of using a Ryzen 5950X for your virtual machine operations.
There are benchmarks available for games and multitasking to help you compare the 5950X with other models like 7900X3D or 7950X3D.
However, if you prefer AM5 compatibility and the chance to upgrade to newer chips, consider these options:
You may still utilize the existing case storage and possibly the PSU.
Find the appropriate offset mounting bracket for your NH D15 here:
Amazon.es
If you're targeting AM5:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor
(€526.07 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard:
Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€212.98 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€247.80 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card:
Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card
(€909.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply:
MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€148.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Overall Cost:
€2043.85
Includes shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
Created by
PCPartPicker
2023-08-19 09:50 CEST+0200