Building Advice New Upcoming -- seeking guidance
Building Advice New Upcoming -- seeking guidance
Hello everyone! The latest eight builds I've developed have all turned out well. Since 2011, I've relied on the excellent guidance from this forum. I'm now starting to shape my next Windows build.
My most recent build was a fresh Math and Science Linux Workstation from 2019. It's still operating perfectly and handles everything I need.
The build I'm aiming to replace dates back to 2011. It still supports Windows 10 and works well for my Microsoft Office tasks, but it's now over a decade old and will soon need an upgrade. This build is essential for my business, and I'm planning to spend between $3,000 and $5,000 on it.
I'm looking for a more compact, quiet design. My current cases from Antec were praised for their silence, but I wasn't satisfied with the build quality. I won't be using an Antec case again.
What modern, compact, quiet cases are available today? I'm specifically seeking one that's all black, free from gamer features and flashing carnival lights on the sides! LOL!
Components I'm evaluating include:
-- the newest, fastest memory options – minimum 64MB
-- the latest Intel or AMD high-end processors with compatible motherboards
-- liquid cooling solutions for the processor
-- NVMe drives – at least four of 4TB each (possibly more)
-- the newest graphics cards that can easily support my two ASUS MX34VQ monitors.
I've thought about switching entirely to Linux, but I still depend on Windows for Office. Running MS Office via Wine is complicated, and Office 365 in the cloud doesn<|pad|>, lacks the necessary features and performance for my requirements.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions! This forum has consistently provided valuable advice, and I'm confident it will again.
Cheers,
Joseph
PCPartPicker List of Components
CPU:
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor
($516.72 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler:
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ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
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Asus ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
($439.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
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G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:
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Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME SSD
($91.98 @ Amazon)
Storage:
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Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" SSD
($286.69 @ Amazon)
Storage:
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Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
($309.99 @ Adorama)
Storage:
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Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
($309.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card:
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Asus ProArt OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card
($879.99 @ B&H)
Case:
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Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case
($96.99 @ Adorama)
Power Supply:
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SeaSonic VERTEX GX-850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($190.00 @ B&H)
Overall Total: $3467.32
Costs encompass shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
*Selected parts based on predefined parameters*
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2024-02-12 19:02 EST-0500
Here are the details you asked about: the parts from your 2011 build, the office work you manage, whether you use heavy multithreaded batch applications, and your specific requirements. It seems your needs are relatively simple, likely without gaming demands. You might not need a 5.25-inch DVD bay, as newer cases usually don’t include them. A compact, quiet high-performance setup works well for you. For size, a smaller MATX case such as the Fractal design pop mini is suitable: https://www.newegg.com/black-fracta...-t...6811352165. Intel isn’t popular here, but an i9-14700K would be a good choice. Running 28 threads at full load demands liquid cooling, but lighter tasks can use an air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15. This keeps the system quiet. The processor tends to idle most of the time, boosting a few threads to near 6.0 when needed. Avoid worrying about overheating; refer to this guide: A Z790-based MATX board could cost under $200. Regarding RAM, Intel doesn’t require high-speed memory for performance; a 2 x 32GB setup is fine, and you can go up to 2 x 48GB DDR5 if needed. You’ll likely need a discrete graphics card with two DP connectors for your monitors, though it doesn’t have to be a powerful gaming card. You may want an Intel A750 model, such as this one: https://www.newegg.com/sparkle-arc-a750-...6814993002
the 14700k seems to be the top choice among them.
You’ll get why the 14th generation isn’t much better than the 13th and the socket situation is pretty bad now.
In contrast, AM5 might push another couple generations.
I just bought a 14600kf for my all intel setup and am really pleased with the price, saving nearly $100 aud compared to the 13600k and 13600kf.
I really wanted the 13600k or 13600kf but I guess I didn’t want to pay $100 aud less!
Personally, I don’t mind Intel’s CPUs—I already have a 10850k in another build—but I prefer AMD’s longer socket life.
With x3d and if they fix the cache problems that messed up the 7900x3d and 7950x3d, Intel will have a hard time competing unless they match the trend by extending socket life.
Push another year with that build. As you are expected to see a significant performance improvement on both CPU and GPU in the upcoming generation. All the rumors and leaks point to a strong performance boost on both fronts. And actually, you might be able to get the build by the end of this year. But yes. I highly recommend waiting. Considering how long your hardware will last and the effort involved. It’s definitely worth the patience.
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@geofelt
Thank you for your comments, suggestions, and observations. My previous Windows installation from 2011/12 includes:
Case — 1 Antec Sonata Series SOLO II Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
MB — 1 Intel BOXDZ77GA70K LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
PSU — 1 High Current Pro HCP-750 750W TX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
CPU — 1 Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
RAM — 1 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
SSD — 1 OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
DVD — 1 ASUS DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS
Case Cooling — 2 Antec TrueQuiet 120 120mm Case Fans
CPU cooling — COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
Video Card — 1 EVGA 04G-P4-2673-KR GeForce GTX 670 Superclocked+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
It operates perfectly and fulfills all my requirements. My most demanding tasks center around Excel, but I’ve shifted much of that process to pandas dataframes and Python on a more powerful Linux workstation. I won’t need a 5.25-inch drive bay, and I don’t require gaming features.
@King Dranzer
Appreciate your feedback, suggestions, and insights. I’m confident I can extend the life of my Windows PC another year. Excellent observations on upcoming tech improvements that could enhance future builds. It’s a wise decision to wait.
My 2019 Linux setup also functions flawlessly, handling most of my intensive Python and math/science work. It’s well-suited for heavy processing without the need for a 5.25-inch drive bay or gaming capabilities.
@Colif
-- Kindly indicate this thread as resolved. The ideas you shared from @ilukey77, @Why_Me, and @geofelt were great, but I believe it's best to hold off until later this year, following @King Dranzer's guidance. This is the solution I'm considering now.
I'm not sure why marking a proposed solution as solved isn't an option, so I heeded your suggestion here.
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Joseph