Building Advice New - Construction - Any recommendations or issues?
Building Advice New - Construction - Any recommendations or issues?
I’m planning to upgrade my old PC (likely around 8 years old) to something better. I’m not a gamer, but I want reliable, high-performance components that won’t become outdated soon. Here’s what I’m considering:
Upgrade details:
- Overkill? Any parts that might not work well together?
- Need alternatives or substitutions?
Components selected:
- MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
- Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor (no overclocking)
- Quiet Rock Slim CPU Cooler
- Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory
- Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD for OS and apps
- Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD for storage (documents, photos, videos)
- Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 3060 12GB VRAM
- 2 HDMI ports for monitors, plus 2 DP ports for future upgrades
- Current monitors (2) with potential for a third via motherboard HDMI
- Corsair RM750x 750 W 80+ Gold ATX Power Supply
- Microsoft Windows 11 Pro OEM - DVD 64-bit
- Corsair AF120 Quiet 120 mm Fans
- Samsung 840 Evo 250 GB SSD (2.5") for backup
- Corsair Carbide Series 400R ATX Mid Tower Case
- Asus DRW (2 units) for additional storage
Please let me know if anything looks off or if you have suggestions.
Are you intentionally skipping 13th generation Intel CPUs and 13th generation motherboards?
12th generation is fine, but the current generation would be what I’d choose unless cost limits it.
Not upgrading in eight years suggests you prefer a one-time purchase and long-term use, so I’d definitely opt for the best components within my means.
What makes you think 64 RAM is better than 32? You might already have one, just asking.
What’s your budget really about?
If you’re moving to DDR5, I’d assume you might want to increase RAM speed to around 5600 or 6000, with only a slight price difference.
Hi Lafong
First of all, 65 views is great, but replying was the first thing I did and only to reply... thanks!
12th gen is fine, but the current one is what I’d choose unless money stops me.
13th gen seems too demanding, needs more power, some problems with certain cards, not worth the extra cost.
Not a gamer, don’t run CAD or photo editing programs.
Since I haven’t upgraded in 8 years, it looks like you’re looking to buy once and stick with it for a long time, so I’d definitely go for the best parts I can afford.
I thought your list covered a lot of ground. Where am I missing? I’m asking for suggestions if needed.
I haven’t had a real reason to upgrade until now. Keep getting crash dumps, and I think I’d be ready to upgrade soon.
What makes you think 64 RAM is better than 32? You might have one, just asking.
I thought the general advice was more memory helps with multitasking? The RAM was only $153, so I thought it was worth it.
What’s your budget like?
Really, I don’t have a budget for this, but I’m not looking to spend more than I can afford.
I believe in buying once and then dealing with it.
RAM usage can be increased to the point where you're utilizing all available capacity.
How much RAM do you generally employ on your current setup?
Are you encountering difficulties with 32 GB?
Do you have a specific reason to think your upcoming workload demands more than 32 GB?
There are valid requirements for 64, 128, 256, and even higher capacities. If you'd be unable to sleep with less than 64 GB, then it makes sense to invest in at least 64 or more, no matter if it seems justified or excessive.
The 13th generation offers several models. Have you directly compared the 12700K with the 13600K in terms of heat dissipation, cooling needs, and overall performance? The price difference is minimal.
Excluding the 12700, 13700, and higher models at various price points.
Your suggested components are solid. The main concern is whether you can achieve better results without a budget constraint.
It's acceptable if you're unable to change your plans based on information from other sources. People with reasonable perspectives may vary. I don't know what you've read... you should easily find supporting links for any viewpoint on the internet.
Good luck.
personally id check a 7700 non x a b650e with the pcie gen 5 x16 slot and a 6800xt if possible!
You'll get better socket life from the AM5 platform.
A ddr5 cl 30 6000 is ideal for zen4.
The 7700 is just as easy to cool as the 12700k.
If you really want a 3060 ti 12gb for your needs, there are no issues.
But I’d hesitate to go with LGA1700 near its end!
Considered your advice.
Reflecting on the upgrade idea, I’m thinking about moving to an i7 13700K with Crucial Pro 32GB RAM.
It’s the 13th generation i7 upgrade.
Received a notice from PCPartspicker about compatibility.
The MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI ATX LGA1700 board supports the Intel Core i7-13700K at 3.4 GHz with BIOS 7D30v17.
If the board runs an older BIOS, updating it will be needed to run the CPU.
Checked MSI’s site and found a compatible version...
Core i7
Raptorlake
i7-13700K
100
3.4GHz
24MB
30MB
B0
125
UHD Graphics 770
7D30v17.zip
Seems fine, correct?
Apologies for the confusion, thank you again.
I would not proceed with the build unless I have additional details.
Could you provide the specifications of the components you are currently using? It might be possible to reuse some parts.
Do you have a budget in mind for this upgrade?
What is the primary purpose of this computer?
Is it mainly for everyday tasks, gaming, or something else?
What kind of games are you planning to play?
Are they fast-paced, CPU-heavy simulations, MMOs, or strategy/multiplayer?
Do you need multithreaded batch applications?
The 13th generation processor seems suitable.
Current RAM prices are affordable.
However, requiring more than 32GB of memory seems doubtful.
Yes, the 12700K is an i7 and the 13600K is an i5. It depends on whether you're looking for a "step down" or a "step up." There might be scenarios where an i7-12700K is more suitable than the i5-13600K. I haven't explored it thoroughly yet.
Searching on Google for "12700K vs 13600K" returned 79 results. Most of these focused on gaming, but you should investigate further if needed.
Unfortunately, the majority of those results were related to gaming. I suspect you're mainly interested in performance for your particular tasks. I don't know what those are.
I might be mistaken, but I acknowledge that 7 is indeed higher than 5 and that RAM is often labeled as "Corsair Vengeance" instead of "Corsair Adequate." You should at least think about alternatives like the 13700. It seems unlikely you'll find a 13600K, so the strong interest in that model is likely because it appears cheaper than the 13700 and 13700K.
Running a 13th generation CPU (13700K) on a 12th generation motherboard (Z690) depends on the BIOS being compatible with 13th generation processors. If not, you can try:
1. Updating the BIOS on your 12th generation board to a version compatible with 13th gen CPUs after downloading it from MSI.
2. Purchasing a 13th generation motherboard, such as Z790 or B760, which supports micro ATX or ATX form factors.
Or
3. Assuming your 12th generation board is newer stock and had its BIOS updated at the factory before purchase.
If you're not pushing the clock speed, consider a 13700 non-k and B760 setup.
Modern CPUs are categorized with high precision, making overclocking difficult or nonexistent.
For quieter performance, a more robust cooler such as the Deepcool AK620 or Thermalright peerless assassin is recommended.
I also recommend a recent ATX3.0 PSU, like the RMe(2023) 750.
A solid P5+ board with PCIe 4.0 would be ideal and fits the budget.
GPU suggestion: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6z...ge...80-cli-6go