Build Log - Inwin 909 - 8700K - Duncans RGB Aussie PC
Build Log - Inwin 909 - 8700K - Duncans RGB Aussie PC
Installed the RAM and placed the CPU onto the MB using the EK monoblock.
rubix_1011 :
That is a pretty thick radiator. You may wish to turn the fans around into pull orientation and vent out the top, rather than trying to push out the top. Just my suggestion.
Otherwise, great build...keep adding info!
Hey Mate,
You actually raise a really good point.
I think your suggestion is a great idea however I don't really want to remove the RGB Fans which i will have to do, they only mount one way. It is one of the main points of this build, I have spent a lot of time researching fan/LED controllers and keeping neutral colours in the case so the LED's do the customising.
As per the picture below I currently have the front smaller 2xCPU fans(Radiator) are pulling from inside the case to outside the case. The rear fans(radiator) are also pulling from inside the case to outside the case. I have blanked out the 2 fan holes at the bottom because I want to mount one of my pumps there.So I basically have no fresh air flow into the case.
Is this really a bad thing having no fresh air flow?
Is push pull onto the thick radiator going to address your concerns?
Options I think may improve thick radiator air flow and fresh air case flow, please suggesst some more ideas.
1. Add in 3 extra thin fans onto the rear radiator to make it push pull??? However this still doesn't bring fresh air into the case?
2. Add in 3 extra thin fans onto the rear radiator to make it push pull??? Move the tank reservoir from the bottom of the case so there will be 2 at the top of the case, then mount 2 x extra intake fans at the bottom of the case. This wont look as good but may be a happy medium.
Current Plan for Case Cooling
Adding some responses to your questions, in-line:
Understood, but you are trading cooling efficiency for aesthetics by doing this.
Radiators restrict airflow, it's as simple as that.
In short, yes, it is kind of a bad thing to not have enough cool airflow through your case. You have other components in the system that are NOT being watercooled, and with reduced airflow, they will actually suffer and run hotter. Think hard drives, motherboard power management modules, chipset, etc.
Not entirely, but thick radiators with single fans tend to do marginally better when in Pull configuration rather than Push. Push creates more air resistance against the fan blades, reducing airflow. Pull avoids this by simply exhausting air through the radiator. I am looking at your case and I have to say, that rear exhaust shield looks extremely restrictive, also.
This would definitely help your radiator's cooling potential, and I can recommend Scythe Slip Stream fans...they are about 12.5mm thick...I use these in pull on my radiator.
In all honesty, you have more radiators than you likely really need, but I'm not going to tell anyone not to over-rad a cooling loop. In reality, you're going to get airflow into the case provided you aren't creating too much restriction and also still have good exhaust ventilation. Your focus would need to be 'good circulation of air' inside the case over other components...i.e., focused fans or directed airflow. Also, it looks like the front 280 rad is proposed to be 'exhaust' based on the arrows...make that intake and make it pull.
Here is the revised version at the same length and structure:
After considering your comments and conducting further research, I have reached this decision. Supporting links are provided below.
Fan Setup
-Push vs. Pull – Pulling through the radiator tends to be slightly more effective in temperature terms (Mixed Reviews), though there’s no strong evidence of a significant temperature gap. Still, managing dust is important; pulling helps prevent temperatures from rising too much once dust accumulates. So, pulling as you recommended is preferable, but it shouldn’t compromise the look.
-Push/Pull – Your suggestion works well overall, offering better results in all areas, particularly with the radiator’s thickness.
In summary:
-GPU Radiator Fans – I plan to use the rear 60mm thick radiator for push/pull exhausting from the back of the case. I’ll get some Scythe Slip Stream 12.5mm fans and appreciate your help.
-CPU Radiator Fans – Following your advice, I’ll purchase new fans and install them on the radiator (simple black non-RGB ones). I’ll relocate the NZXT RGBs to the bottom of the case to improve air circulation.
At the base is a visual guide: each arrow points to one fan.
Air Flow – I believe I’ve improved air movement by placing the RGB LED fans at the bottom of the case, which brings in fresh air.
Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjYli6itP38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJmE13sG9PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyC3lZ5WFMk
Initially I had to mention that. There could be a problem here though. I haven’t ever made a custom loop, but with all those additions—your setup, the fans, the CPU, the pumps, EVO and hard drives, plus the lighting—you might actually want an 850w gold-rated power supply. With the sli setup, everything is running, so a 1000w one could be more suitable.
Now I understand what you’re going to say. You’ve calculated your power requirements. Given how much you’ve invested, don’t you think it’s safer to ensure you have enough power plus a bit extra? Plus, you might consider upgrading to platinum.
Urbancamper:
First thing I want to mention is that it's sexy. But there might be a problem here. I haven't made a custom loop before, but with all those additions, do you really think you should just use an 850w gold-rated power supply? With the sli setup, fans, the CPU, pumps, EVO and hard drives, plus the lighting, and considering you'll be overclocking, a 1000w supply might be better.
Now I know what you're going to say. You've calculated your power needs. With all the money you've spent, don't you think it's safer to ensure you have enough power plus a bit extra? And maybe you should upgrade to platinum.
You're completely right. I originally worked out the PSU without accounting for the lighting and didn't factor in any overclocking for the GPU. I've recalculated now, it's around 861W :S. Hope they'll change it. I also added another section to the original post highlighting important points and issues.
Liquid cooling pumps consume relatively little energy, typically ranging from 12 to 25 watts. Most lighting uses LEDs, which also have low power consumption. Still, increasing the overclocking can raise your power usage, and even when it isn't at full capacity all the time, you should verify your power source can provide stable, safe output without interruptions.