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iRaine
Posting Freak
800
11-21-2016, 01:32 PM
#11
I created a build and found another very similar one:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor
(€394.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€41.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard:
ASRock B850 Pro-A WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€180.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory:
Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€111.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage:
MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€144.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card:
XFX Swift Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card
(€749.00 @ Datatronic)
Case:
Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case
(€65.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply:
Montech CENTURY II 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€108.90 @ Proshop)
Overall cost comes to €1798.30
Includes shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
This entry was generated by PCPartPicker
2025-08-02 21:08 EEST+0300
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iRaine
11-21-2016, 01:32 PM #11

I created a build and found another very similar one:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core OEM/Tray Processor
(€394.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€41.90 @ Jimm's)
Motherboard:
ASRock B850 Pro-A WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€180.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory:
Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€111.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage:
MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€144.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card:
XFX Swift Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card
(€749.00 @ Datatronic)
Case:
Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case
(€65.90 @ Jimm's)
Power Supply:
Montech CENTURY II 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€108.90 @ Proshop)
Overall cost comes to €1798.30
Includes shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
This entry was generated by PCPartPicker
2025-08-02 21:08 EEST+0300

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Bonnibel
Posting Freak
794
11-23-2016, 06:09 AM
#12
And there I believed we had already reached a consensus that the Ryzen 5 would suffice for me.
But at least we’re aligned on AMD here, since I’m still a beginner—though I’ll be getting assistance while assembling the system.
I’m naturally intrigued by why so many have suggested the MSI Spatium M480 Pro SSD, even though the Samsung 990 Evo is actually more affordable and supports PCIe 5.0.
However, while I ponder which GPU and CPU to select, otherwise all the recommendations seem quite similar.
There are a few aspects I’d like to clarify: firstly, what RAM speed would be ideal—around 6000 mHz?
Secondly, are there any compatibility concerns I should keep in mind when picking components? As long as the motherboard supports the selected RAM speed, that should work fine.
Thirdly, are there particular motherboard features that are highly recommended, such as a flash bios button or a clear CMOS button?
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Bonnibel
11-23-2016, 06:09 AM #12

And there I believed we had already reached a consensus that the Ryzen 5 would suffice for me.
But at least we’re aligned on AMD here, since I’m still a beginner—though I’ll be getting assistance while assembling the system.
I’m naturally intrigued by why so many have suggested the MSI Spatium M480 Pro SSD, even though the Samsung 990 Evo is actually more affordable and supports PCIe 5.0.
However, while I ponder which GPU and CPU to select, otherwise all the recommendations seem quite similar.
There are a few aspects I’d like to clarify: firstly, what RAM speed would be ideal—around 6000 mHz?
Secondly, are there any compatibility concerns I should keep in mind when picking components? As long as the motherboard supports the selected RAM speed, that should work fine.
Thirdly, are there particular motherboard features that are highly recommended, such as a flash bios button or a clear CMOS button?

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XxKripxDeMoNxX
Senior Member
536
11-23-2016, 08:20 AM
#13
The MSI SSD comes with DRAM cache. A 2TB SSD is more than enough. You should get DDR5-6000 CL30 for the AM5 CPU. Seek a card that supports PCIe 5.0. Adding flash bios is a nice feature.
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XxKripxDeMoNxX
11-23-2016, 08:20 AM #13

The MSI SSD comes with DRAM cache. A 2TB SSD is more than enough. You should get DDR5-6000 CL30 for the AM5 CPU. Seek a card that supports PCIe 5.0. Adding flash bios is a nice feature.

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SidneyPOA
Member
79
11-23-2016, 09:52 AM
#14
I wasn't aware of the SSD details! Everything is evolving quickly...
The cost gap between the 9070 XT and 5070 Ti is roughly 100 euros, and I see the latter as a much better choice. I'll need to consider that option too.
Do you think the 850W power supply is sufficient?
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SidneyPOA
11-23-2016, 09:52 AM #14

I wasn't aware of the SSD details! Everything is evolving quickly...
The cost gap between the 9070 XT and 5070 Ti is roughly 100 euros, and I see the latter as a much better choice. I'll need to consider that option too.
Do you think the 850W power supply is sufficient?

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TheBozoPlays
Senior Member
642
11-29-2016, 05:31 AM
#15
The 850W power supply will function properly with either of those cards.
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TheBozoPlays
11-29-2016, 05:31 AM #15

The 850W power supply will function properly with either of those cards.

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GoMigs
Senior Member
614
12-06-2016, 05:16 AM
#16
Thank you everyone for your input! I thought about your comments, and came up with this:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€384.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€37.90 @ Datatronic)
Motherboard:
MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€262.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€120.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage:
MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
(€143.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card:
Gigabyte WINDFORCE SFF GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card
(€819.00 @ Proshop)
Case:
Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
(€96.90 @ Datatronic)
Power Supply:
Montech CENTURY II 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€108.90 @ Proshop)
Total:
€1975.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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2025-08-06 15:37 EEST+0300
I may want to step down to Ryzen 9600X and maybe Radeon 9070 XT or 5070 or something, or I might just go with this one. We shall see. Depends on what good deals there are on offer. But I'm glad I asked for help as I now know what to look for.
Been keeping an eye on component prices for the last few years and my experience is that the longer one waits, the more expensive the components get on average. And there's always that next generation that is coming soon and one should wait for it
😉
. But that way it's never a good time to build a PC.
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GoMigs
12-06-2016, 05:16 AM #16

Thank you everyone for your input! I thought about your comments, and came up with this:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€384.90 @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€37.90 @ Datatronic)
Motherboard:
MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€262.90 @ Datatronic)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€120.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage:
MSI SPATIUM M480 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
(€143.90 @ Datatronic)
Video Card:
Gigabyte WINDFORCE SFF GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card
(€819.00 @ Proshop)
Case:
Fractal Design Pop Air RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
(€96.90 @ Datatronic)
Power Supply:
Montech CENTURY II 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€108.90 @ Proshop)
Total:
€1975.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2025-08-06 15:37 EEST+0300
I may want to step down to Ryzen 9600X and maybe Radeon 9070 XT or 5070 or something, or I might just go with this one. We shall see. Depends on what good deals there are on offer. But I'm glad I asked for help as I now know what to look for.
Been keeping an eye on component prices for the last few years and my experience is that the longer one waits, the more expensive the components get on average. And there's always that next generation that is coming soon and one should wait for it
😉
. But that way it's never a good time to build a PC.

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minibinilutz
Junior Member
14
12-07-2016, 01:42 AM
#17
This cooler offers a slight improvement at a marginally lower cost. It's worth considering. If you locate a 2x24gb or 2x32gb RAM kit in the 160-190 price range, it could be beneficial if you intend to use this computer for more than five years. In my experience, 32gb can feel a bit stretched out these days. For the cost of the B850 Tomahawk board, you might also find a better x870 board and something close to a cheaper x870e board. Just some thoughts!
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minibinilutz
12-07-2016, 01:42 AM #17

This cooler offers a slight improvement at a marginally lower cost. It's worth considering. If you locate a 2x24gb or 2x32gb RAM kit in the 160-190 price range, it could be beneficial if you intend to use this computer for more than five years. In my experience, 32gb can feel a bit stretched out these days. For the cost of the B850 Tomahawk board, you might also find a better x870 board and something close to a cheaper x870e board. Just some thoughts!

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Salty___Bud
Member
246
12-07-2016, 10:24 AM
#18
I'm attempting to find the cheapest NVMe SSD with a DRAM buffer, considering a review mentioning overheating above 100°C on the Spatium M480 Pro. It seems I might want to consider these options instead:

PCPartPicker Part List
Storage:
Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€154.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage:
Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€149.90 @ Datatronic)

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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2025-08-06 20:15 EEST+0300
Sorry for any trouble!

Also, if purchasing from amazon.de is acceptable, the Thermalright Royal Pretor could be a good choice for that CPU.
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Salty___Bud
12-07-2016, 10:24 AM #18

I'm attempting to find the cheapest NVMe SSD with a DRAM buffer, considering a review mentioning overheating above 100°C on the Spatium M480 Pro. It seems I might want to consider these options instead:

PCPartPicker Part List
Storage:
Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€154.90 @ Datatronic)
Storage:
Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€149.90 @ Datatronic)

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker
2025-08-06 20:15 EEST+0300
Sorry for any trouble!

Also, if purchasing from amazon.de is acceptable, the Thermalright Royal Pretor could be a good choice for that CPU.

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Bob_The_Guy
Member
55
12-07-2016, 11:52 AM
#19
You might be correct about the RAM. I’ll remember that. The B850 Tomahawk seems to match the X870 model quite well, and even the X870E isn’t much different. The B850 Tomahawk worked fine in KitGuru’s review. Is there anything I’m missing? I’m just a beginner, so it’s possible I’m misunderstanding.
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Bob_The_Guy
12-07-2016, 11:52 AM #19

You might be correct about the RAM. I’ll remember that. The B850 Tomahawk seems to match the X870 model quite well, and even the X870E isn’t much different. The B850 Tomahawk worked fine in KitGuru’s review. Is there anything I’m missing? I’m just a beginner, so it’s possible I’m misunderstanding.

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Om4rgam3r
Member
75
12-08-2016, 07:13 AM
#20
As far as I've grasped, the B850 Tomahawk offers fewer PCIe lanes but still supports PCIe for GPU and M.2 connections (which seems quite convenient, despite no one recommending PCIe 5.0 storage). From the thermal data and performance metrics, it appears similar to the X870 Tomahawk and X870E Tomahawk. However, it provides only 10 Gbps USB-C with fewer ports compared to the X870 and X870E models. The price gap between B850 and X870 is around 50 euros. While it's tempting to spend a bit more, the B850 Tomahawk already comes at a higher cost and includes better features than what most users would suggest purchasing. It might be worth considering the X870 Riptide as an alternative in the same price range, even though I generally favor more neutral components.

PCPartPicker Part List
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€239.90 @ Proshop)
Memory:
Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€217.80 @ Multitronic.fi)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€190.90 @ Datatronic)
Total:
€648.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts
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PCPartPicker
2025-08-07 20:32 EEST+0300
Those would likely be the RAM choices you were discussing. I really aim to use the PC for over five years and will probably upgrade the GPU eventually.
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Om4rgam3r
12-08-2016, 07:13 AM #20

As far as I've grasped, the B850 Tomahawk offers fewer PCIe lanes but still supports PCIe for GPU and M.2 connections (which seems quite convenient, despite no one recommending PCIe 5.0 storage). From the thermal data and performance metrics, it appears similar to the X870 Tomahawk and X870E Tomahawk. However, it provides only 10 Gbps USB-C with fewer ports compared to the X870 and X870E models. The price gap between B850 and X870 is around 50 euros. While it's tempting to spend a bit more, the B850 Tomahawk already comes at a higher cost and includes better features than what most users would suggest purchasing. It might be worth considering the X870 Riptide as an alternative in the same price range, even though I generally favor more neutral components.

PCPartPicker Part List
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€239.90 @ Proshop)
Memory:
Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€217.80 @ Multitronic.fi)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€190.90 @ Datatronic)
Total:
€648.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2025-08-07 20:32 EEST+0300
Those would likely be the RAM choices you were discussing. I really aim to use the PC for over five years and will probably upgrade the GPU eventually.

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