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xHuntex
Member
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10-21-2024, 09:42 PM
#11
The upgraded processor should align well with your monitor's resolution and refresh rate, keeping costs reasonable. A 3060ti may face difficulties maintaining performance at higher or improved settings.
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xHuntex
10-21-2024, 09:42 PM #11

The upgraded processor should align well with your monitor's resolution and refresh rate, keeping costs reasonable. A 3060ti may face difficulties maintaining performance at higher or improved settings.

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jcool1184
Junior Member
42
10-22-2024, 04:09 AM
#12
I think your games are more constrained by the CPU than by graphics limits. Try this basic test: Execute your games with reduced visual effects and lower resolution. This gives the graphics card some breathing room. An improvement in frame rate implies the graphics card is likely the key upgrade to consider. On the other hand, if performance stays largely unchanged, a CPU upgrade would be more beneficial. Perform the cpu-Z benchmark on your 10600K and check the single-thread rating. You should see around 600: http://valid.x86.fr/bench/t5vzcd Currently, there aren’t any suitable CPU upgrades for your existing motherboard. If a graphics upgrade is recommended, here’s Tom’s GPU hierarchy chart: Consider making a significant jump if you decide to upgrade; otherwise, you might not achieve the expected results.
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jcool1184
10-22-2024, 04:09 AM #12

I think your games are more constrained by the CPU than by graphics limits. Try this basic test: Execute your games with reduced visual effects and lower resolution. This gives the graphics card some breathing room. An improvement in frame rate implies the graphics card is likely the key upgrade to consider. On the other hand, if performance stays largely unchanged, a CPU upgrade would be more beneficial. Perform the cpu-Z benchmark on your 10600K and check the single-thread rating. You should see around 600: http://valid.x86.fr/bench/t5vzcd Currently, there aren’t any suitable CPU upgrades for your existing motherboard. If a graphics upgrade is recommended, here’s Tom’s GPU hierarchy chart: Consider making a significant jump if you decide to upgrade; otherwise, you might not achieve the expected results.

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MaxxyisBae
Junior Member
7
10-28-2024, 01:45 AM
#13
I agree. That CPU would stay happy for 2K gaming, I think.
It is worth noting that AMD cards for 2K and high VRAM are available at great prices. The main disadvantage would be Ray Tracing from a gaming standpoint. There are other features of NVIDIA cards concerning certain workload environments that are appealing.
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MaxxyisBae
10-28-2024, 01:45 AM #13

I agree. That CPU would stay happy for 2K gaming, I think.
It is worth noting that AMD cards for 2K and high VRAM are available at great prices. The main disadvantage would be Ray Tracing from a gaming standpoint. There are other features of NVIDIA cards concerning certain workload environments that are appealing.

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Marcustheduke
Senior Member
679
11-08-2024, 11:43 AM
#14
I ran the bench and achieved 510.5 on ST and 3806 on MT, which seems close to the standard.
I followed the recommended test and believe a full upgrade would help.
I tried playing POE2 with high settings; at medium settings I reached around 100 FPS with an average of 96, but increased to about 130 FPS at higher settings.
Based on this, I plan to build a new rig and keep the current one for a small home dedicated server when my kids visit.
The next question is: what should I get? I’ve never used AMD, but I see good reviews for models like the z790 and X870E.
If I stick with Intel, I should look for a solid LGA1700 board since I’m considering the 13900K.
Thanks for your advice!
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Marcustheduke
11-08-2024, 11:43 AM #14

I ran the bench and achieved 510.5 on ST and 3806 on MT, which seems close to the standard.
I followed the recommended test and believe a full upgrade would help.
I tried playing POE2 with high settings; at medium settings I reached around 100 FPS with an average of 96, but increased to about 130 FPS at higher settings.
Based on this, I plan to build a new rig and keep the current one for a small home dedicated server when my kids visit.
The next question is: what should I get? I’ve never used AMD, but I see good reviews for models like the z790 and X870E.
If I stick with Intel, I should look for a solid LGA1700 board since I’m considering the 13900K.
Thanks for your advice!

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xXhydrobombXx
Junior Member
12
11-12-2024, 01:25 PM
#15
PCPartPicker List of Components
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
($478.98 on Amazon)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard:
MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
($129.99 on MSI)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
($92.99 on Newegg)
Storage:
Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
($169.86 on Amazon)
Video Card:
MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card
($449.00 on Amazon)
Case:
Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
($99.99 on B&H)
Power Supply:
Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($114.00 on Amazon)
Overall Cost:
$1534.81
Includes shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
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PCPartPicker
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xXhydrobombXx
11-12-2024, 01:25 PM #15

PCPartPicker List of Components
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
($478.98 on Amazon)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard:
MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
($129.99 on MSI)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
($92.99 on Newegg)
Storage:
Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
($169.86 on Amazon)
Video Card:
MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card
($449.00 on Amazon)
Case:
Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
($99.99 on B&H)
Power Supply:
Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($114.00 on Amazon)
Overall Cost:
$1534.81
Includes shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
Created by
PCPartPicker
2024-12-10 12:43 EST-0500

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Annaa
Junior Member
46
11-12-2024, 05:55 PM
#16
This approach offers a comprehensive platform refresh while preserving most components. It allows for significant improvements in CPU and graphics cards without overspending. I advise against opting for a 14900/13900 CPU for gaming, as these models only provide a slight boost compared to a 14600/14700k CPU while doubling the price. You have the flexibility to invest more than suggested, but this offers the greatest value in the remaining budget. Avoid allocating extra funds to a 10 or 11 series CPU.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor
($224.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
(Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700
($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16
(Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME
($0.00)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB
($449.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
($0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified
(Fully Modular ATX)
Monitor: Pixio PX329 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz
($0.00)
Overall Cost: $803.97
Includes shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
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PCPartPicker
2024-12-10 12:30 EST-0500
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Annaa
11-12-2024, 05:55 PM #16

This approach offers a comprehensive platform refresh while preserving most components. It allows for significant improvements in CPU and graphics cards without overspending. I advise against opting for a 14900/13900 CPU for gaming, as these models only provide a slight boost compared to a 14600/14700k CPU while doubling the price. You have the flexibility to invest more than suggested, but this offers the greatest value in the remaining budget. Avoid allocating extra funds to a 10 or 11 series CPU.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i5-14600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor
($224.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
(Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700
($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16
(Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME
($0.00)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB
($449.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
($0.00)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified
(Fully Modular ATX)
Monitor: Pixio PX329 31.5" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz
($0.00)
Overall Cost: $803.97
Includes shipping, taxes, and applicable discounts
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-12-10 12:30 EST-0500

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Linky2006h
Junior Member
8
11-14-2024, 07:08 PM
#17
It seems you're asking whether AMD is currently better than Intel for building a new system, and if so, why it might be preferred.
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Linky2006h
11-14-2024, 07:08 PM #17

It seems you're asking whether AMD is currently better than Intel for building a new system, and if so, why it might be preferred.

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wolfpup118
Member
229
11-14-2024, 07:47 PM
#18
I think AMD is better, but only slightly. For gaming the x3d parts it's perfect. For productivity, you can claim any of those high-core-count CPUs—13700, 13900k, 14700, or 14900k are often superior due to their core count. You should look at CPUs with 7900, 7950x, 9900, or 9950x for similar or better performance. Intel uses a P/E core design but recently removed HT. AMD instead uses just 'P' cores, without efficiency cores and includes HT which adds more threads. This might shift with Zen5/Zen 5c, making it a good time to buy. There are many strong CPUs available.
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wolfpup118
11-14-2024, 07:47 PM #18

I think AMD is better, but only slightly. For gaming the x3d parts it's perfect. For productivity, you can claim any of those high-core-count CPUs—13700, 13900k, 14700, or 14900k are often superior due to their core count. You should look at CPUs with 7900, 7950x, 9900, or 9950x for similar or better performance. Intel uses a P/E core design but recently removed HT. AMD instead uses just 'P' cores, without efficiency cores and includes HT which adds more threads. This might shift with Zen5/Zen 5c, making it a good time to buy. There are many strong CPUs available.

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Blaxtone
Junior Member
29
12-01-2024, 05:40 AM
#19
Intel's present socket will remain relevant only for a single CPU generation, and they aren't ideal for gaming. Their previous generation CPUs perform better in games but are stuck on a limited platform. AM5 is entering its second generation of chips for this socket and may add another or two more generations. Additionally, since AMD is very close to Intel's top performance right now (95%) unless you factor in the best gaming CPU, which is the AMD 9800X3D, the situation stays tight.
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Blaxtone
12-01-2024, 05:40 AM #19

Intel's present socket will remain relevant only for a single CPU generation, and they aren't ideal for gaming. Their previous generation CPUs perform better in games but are stuck on a limited platform. AM5 is entering its second generation of chips for this socket and may add another or two more generations. Additionally, since AMD is very close to Intel's top performance right now (95%) unless you factor in the best gaming CPU, which is the AMD 9800X3D, the situation stays tight.

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116
12-02-2024, 01:23 AM
#20
there are very few bottlenecks, yet you still opt for i5 instead of i7?
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mrwalrusman100
12-02-2024, 01:23 AM #20

there are very few bottlenecks, yet you still opt for i5 instead of i7?

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