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eldiablored
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09-03-2019, 12:37 PM
#11
The articles by Tom on affordable keys can be found at the provided link.
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eldiablored
09-03-2019, 12:37 PM #11

The articles by Tom on affordable keys can be found at the provided link.

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Petard6
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09-04-2019, 08:54 AM
#12
Correct. I hadn't spotted the article. Thank's for pointing it out. A Microsoft volunteer moderator believes most of these cheap keys are not legitimate: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ys...a9ba017111 Question: A lot of big YouTubers and many popular sites are selling cheap activation keys. Are those really legit? I also saw a site selling them and saying those are legit keys. Is it okay to buy from them? Answer: Beware of Product Keys Sold Separately. With the exception of Product Key Cards (PKC’s) distributed with COA’s, Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products. If you see a listing on an auction site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys for sale, it’s a good indication that the keys are likely stolen or counterfeit. If you were to purchase and use a stolen or counterfeit product key to activate Windows installed on your PC, the key may not work for activation, may already be in use on another PC, or it might be blocked from use later by Microsoft when the key is reported stolen. More info here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/howtotell/Shop.... In his article, Avram states the following: Now, let's address the elephant in the room. While we can't vouch for all of them, websites selling cheap Windows 11 keys are likely offering legitimate codes. It is my belief the cheap activation codes might indeed indeed be genuine, in as much as they were originally created by Microsoft, but if they were split from a Volume Pack and resold against Microsoft's Terms and Conditions, the license is invalid. What some people don't realize is that a Windows activation key is not the same as a Windows license. You could buy the manufacturer's key for a stolen car, but possesion of a genuine key doesn't make you the car owner. So we have this wonderful conundrum. Microsoft say most of these cheap keys are not legit, but large numbers of people ignore buy them, because they're unwilling to pay Microsoft's "extortionate" full asking price. Fair enough, let your conscience be your guide, but I still don't understand why people buy these cheap keys, when there are other nefarious ways to avtivate Windows for free. Why give a potential scam artist your credit card details? Avram's article might lead people to believe a cheap key comes with a valid license, but that's not always true. You don't see articles about keygens and cracks on Tom's. I wonder why not. Is it just a question of degree?
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Petard6
09-04-2019, 08:54 AM #12

Correct. I hadn't spotted the article. Thank's for pointing it out. A Microsoft volunteer moderator believes most of these cheap keys are not legitimate: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ys...a9ba017111 Question: A lot of big YouTubers and many popular sites are selling cheap activation keys. Are those really legit? I also saw a site selling them and saying those are legit keys. Is it okay to buy from them? Answer: Beware of Product Keys Sold Separately. With the exception of Product Key Cards (PKC’s) distributed with COA’s, Microsoft does not distribute products keys as standalone products. If you see a listing on an auction site, online classified ad, or other online page advertising product keys for sale, it’s a good indication that the keys are likely stolen or counterfeit. If you were to purchase and use a stolen or counterfeit product key to activate Windows installed on your PC, the key may not work for activation, may already be in use on another PC, or it might be blocked from use later by Microsoft when the key is reported stolen. More info here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/howtotell/Shop.... In his article, Avram states the following: Now, let's address the elephant in the room. While we can't vouch for all of them, websites selling cheap Windows 11 keys are likely offering legitimate codes. It is my belief the cheap activation codes might indeed indeed be genuine, in as much as they were originally created by Microsoft, but if they were split from a Volume Pack and resold against Microsoft's Terms and Conditions, the license is invalid. What some people don't realize is that a Windows activation key is not the same as a Windows license. You could buy the manufacturer's key for a stolen car, but possesion of a genuine key doesn't make you the car owner. So we have this wonderful conundrum. Microsoft say most of these cheap keys are not legit, but large numbers of people ignore buy them, because they're unwilling to pay Microsoft's "extortionate" full asking price. Fair enough, let your conscience be your guide, but I still don't understand why people buy these cheap keys, when there are other nefarious ways to avtivate Windows for free. Why give a potential scam artist your credit card details? Avram's article might lead people to believe a cheap key comes with a valid license, but that's not always true. You don't see articles about keygens and cracks on Tom's. I wonder why not. Is it just a question of degree?

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iGotComboed
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09-05-2019, 07:49 PM
#13
They are compensated for promoting certain messages.
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iGotComboed
09-05-2019, 07:49 PM #13

They are compensated for promoting certain messages.

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ADIR_4444
Senior Member
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09-15-2019, 03:02 AM
#14
I created a cheap key on my rig using a promo code from a YouTuber. It seems to be the one Greg Salazar was promoting at that time. I won a system made by jayztwocents, but the license he used didn't activate properly. Rather than wait for a fix, I went with Greg's source, and it functioned well after about three years.
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ADIR_4444
09-15-2019, 03:02 AM #14

I created a cheap key on my rig using a promo code from a YouTuber. It seems to be the one Greg Salazar was promoting at that time. I won a system made by jayztwocents, but the license he used didn't activate properly. Rather than wait for a fix, I went with Greg's source, and it functioned well after about three years.

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SivTheGreat
Member
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09-21-2019, 10:32 AM
#15
The situation was clear to me, yet I didn’t see any reference to the 'Terms and Conditions' link at the bottom of the page. It’s possible I overlooked it during my search. This aligns with what others have said: most illegally sold keys without a proper home license aren’t taken away by Microsoft. Edd Bott explained this in an article here: https://www.zdnet.com/article/is-your-wi...even-care/. Microsoft has learned that its activation servers perform best when set to the most lenient options. If you used a product key six months ago, it’s likely to work again, since Microsoft doesn’t gain much from restricting reinstallation of Windows. Occasionally, Microsoft checks its bigger clients, but hobbyists or small businesses aren’t worth the effort. As long as you manage to activate your new Windows 11 Home or Pro installation successfully, any technical issues with your license are unlikely to cause trouble. In the end, I think most inexpensive keys don’t come with a valid home-use license, and you’re unlikely to face consequences from Microsoft. The key could be genuine (created by Microsoft) or fake (made by a keygen), but it’s improbable it will legally grant you Windows on a home PC. If the key isn’t licensed, you might consider activating it illegally from a GitHub download, but you’d still save $15. I’m worried about Avram’s article suggesting free or low-cost Windows options. It seems to encourage piracy. On Reddit, I saw a post here: but it was from a trusted site. The Microsoft forum says: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ys...a9ba017111 – it clarifies that they don’t sell product keys as standalone items. If you see a listing for keys on auction sites or classified ads, it usually means the keys are stolen or fake. I wasn’t familiar with Adidas, Puma, or Nike being sold in software markets. I assumed these companies sold products, not licenses. Who do you trust regarding Windows licensing? Kinguin or Microsoft?
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SivTheGreat
09-21-2019, 10:32 AM #15

The situation was clear to me, yet I didn’t see any reference to the 'Terms and Conditions' link at the bottom of the page. It’s possible I overlooked it during my search. This aligns with what others have said: most illegally sold keys without a proper home license aren’t taken away by Microsoft. Edd Bott explained this in an article here: https://www.zdnet.com/article/is-your-wi...even-care/. Microsoft has learned that its activation servers perform best when set to the most lenient options. If you used a product key six months ago, it’s likely to work again, since Microsoft doesn’t gain much from restricting reinstallation of Windows. Occasionally, Microsoft checks its bigger clients, but hobbyists or small businesses aren’t worth the effort. As long as you manage to activate your new Windows 11 Home or Pro installation successfully, any technical issues with your license are unlikely to cause trouble. In the end, I think most inexpensive keys don’t come with a valid home-use license, and you’re unlikely to face consequences from Microsoft. The key could be genuine (created by Microsoft) or fake (made by a keygen), but it’s improbable it will legally grant you Windows on a home PC. If the key isn’t licensed, you might consider activating it illegally from a GitHub download, but you’d still save $15. I’m worried about Avram’s article suggesting free or low-cost Windows options. It seems to encourage piracy. On Reddit, I saw a post here: but it was from a trusted site. The Microsoft forum says: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...ys...a9ba017111 – it clarifies that they don’t sell product keys as standalone items. If you see a listing for keys on auction sites or classified ads, it usually means the keys are stolen or fake. I wasn’t familiar with Adidas, Puma, or Nike being sold in software markets. I assumed these companies sold products, not licenses. Who do you trust regarding Windows licensing? Kinguin or Microsoft?

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