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Alan4041
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12-26-2016, 04:25 AM
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In titles such as Shadow of Mordor, I experience around 98% GPU utilization, but when settings are maximized, performance drops significantly to near 55 frames per second. This behavior is unusual.
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Alan4041
12-26-2016, 04:25 AM #11

In titles such as Shadow of Mordor, I experience around 98% GPU utilization, but when settings are maximized, performance drops significantly to near 55 frames per second. This behavior is unusual.

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Kerina_Dancer
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12-31-2016, 10:42 AM
#12
Vsync can significantly lower your average frames if you're below 60fps, especially when using 45 or 30 jumps. It's quite noticeable when it drops. If you're using Vsync, consider enabling triple buffering to avoid dropping 15 frames at once. This is similar to how you experienced performance drops during intense scenes. Alternatively, skip Vsync and accept tearing above 60fps, but not below it. Adjusting this setting should help maximize your frame rate if you haven't already. You can test by running games with and without Vsync to see which performs better under stress. Ryse is problematic because cutscenes run at 100fps, causing noticeable tearing without Vsync.
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Kerina_Dancer
12-31-2016, 10:42 AM #12

Vsync can significantly lower your average frames if you're below 60fps, especially when using 45 or 30 jumps. It's quite noticeable when it drops. If you're using Vsync, consider enabling triple buffering to avoid dropping 15 frames at once. This is similar to how you experienced performance drops during intense scenes. Alternatively, skip Vsync and accept tearing above 60fps, but not below it. Adjusting this setting should help maximize your frame rate if you haven't already. You can test by running games with and without Vsync to see which performs better under stress. Ryse is problematic because cutscenes run at 100fps, causing noticeable tearing without Vsync.

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Machi_Gamz
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01-01-2017, 01:26 AM
#13
Thanks! That was really useful—I’ll try it out on some games.
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Machi_Gamz
01-01-2017, 01:26 AM #13

Thanks! That was really useful—I’ll try it out on some games.

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TOMMYCRAFT05
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01-03-2017, 01:27 AM
#14
Adaptive is recognized for certain problems in games running at high clock speeds, and power efficiency often plays a role when trying to get top performance. Since it's the default driver setting, many users don't notice this as the cause of subpar gameplay in some titles. It should be fixed soon.
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TOMMYCRAFT05
01-03-2017, 01:27 AM #14

Adaptive is recognized for certain problems in games running at high clock speeds, and power efficiency often plays a role when trying to get top performance. Since it's the default driver setting, many users don't notice this as the cause of subpar gameplay in some titles. It should be fixed soon.

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sock5000
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01-04-2017, 02:13 PM
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I ran some tests on Ryse with maximum settings, including 8x filtering, VSync enabled, and it performed poorly—reaching up to 35 fps in some cases, dropping from 60 to 35 fps inconsistently. Turning off VSync gave a peak of 75 fps but only around 65 frames per second, though the screen tearing was really bothersome.
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sock5000
01-04-2017, 02:13 PM #15

I ran some tests on Ryse with maximum settings, including 8x filtering, VSync enabled, and it performed poorly—reaching up to 35 fps in some cases, dropping from 60 to 35 fps inconsistently. Turning off VSync gave a peak of 75 fps but only around 65 frames per second, though the screen tearing was really bothersome.

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Karmageddon
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01-04-2017, 03:27 PM
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That's Ryse, it really struggles with Vsync off for tearing. Other titles seem/should handle it better. If Ryse's settings for supersampling or downsampling are active, turn them off when Vsync is on to keep it nearer to 60fps consistently. If it stays below 60fps despite that, the card might need an overclock or a more powerful unit. How are your other games performing with Vsync enabled now that MaxPerf is running?
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Karmageddon
01-04-2017, 03:27 PM #16

That's Ryse, it really struggles with Vsync off for tearing. Other titles seem/should handle it better. If Ryse's settings for supersampling or downsampling are active, turn them off when Vsync is on to keep it nearer to 60fps consistently. If it stays below 60fps despite that, the card might need an overclock or a more powerful unit. How are your other games performing with Vsync enabled now that MaxPerf is running?

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zShard
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01-10-2017, 05:26 AM
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Most of the games you've talked about require heavy CPU usage with just a few threads, making them slow even on top hardware. These are called "CPU-bound games" because their speed depends entirely on your processor. Simply adding more GPU power won't fix it—upgrading the CPU might help a bit, but it's not worth it unless you can unlock the chip and push it to its limits. For newer AAA titles that use more threads and less CPU reliance, you'll get much better performance.
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zShard
01-10-2017, 05:26 AM #17

Most of the games you've talked about require heavy CPU usage with just a few threads, making them slow even on top hardware. These are called "CPU-bound games" because their speed depends entirely on your processor. Simply adding more GPU power won't fix it—upgrading the CPU might help a bit, but it's not worth it unless you can unlock the chip and push it to its limits. For newer AAA titles that use more threads and less CPU reliance, you'll get much better performance.

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Hephaistose
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01-10-2017, 07:08 AM
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I understood those titles were demanding on the processor, but didn’t realize the extent. When I set up my rig, I thought I could handle anything, which might have been a mistake. Could anyone suggest a game that really pushes CPU limits? I considered downloading Battlefield 4 since it’s free for a limited time on Origin, just to see if it would be a good challenge. Since I only own Counter-Strike 3 and it’s near maximum performance, would that be worth the effort?
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Hephaistose
01-10-2017, 07:08 AM #18

I understood those titles were demanding on the processor, but didn’t realize the extent. When I set up my rig, I thought I could handle anything, which might have been a mistake. Could anyone suggest a game that really pushes CPU limits? I considered downloading Battlefield 4 since it’s free for a limited time on Origin, just to see if it would be a good challenge. Since I only own Counter-Strike 3 and it’s near maximum performance, would that be worth the effort?

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MCAlexLP
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01-12-2017, 04:17 AM
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Are you getting a brand new Windows setup? Are the graphics drivers current? Which display settings are active? Is your screen resolution set to something specific? Is the Dynamic Scaling feature turned on?
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MCAlexLP
01-12-2017, 04:17 AM #19

Are you getting a brand new Windows setup? Are the graphics drivers current? Which display settings are active? Is your screen resolution set to something specific? Is the Dynamic Scaling feature turned on?

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Kimplaze
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01-14-2017, 09:47 PM
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Original Windows 8.1 setup, purchased the PC and installed it. I’ve run the latest updates, uninstalled, reinstalled, and updated multiple times to ensure everything works. The display is 2048 x 1152, which is unusual since this monitor lacks HDMI input—it’s quite outdated. It runs at 2.0x with a smoothness of about 33%.
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Kimplaze
01-14-2017, 09:47 PM #20

Original Windows 8.1 setup, purchased the PC and installed it. I’ve run the latest updates, uninstalled, reinstalled, and updated multiple times to ensure everything works. The display is 2048 x 1152, which is unusual since this monitor lacks HDMI input—it’s quite outdated. It runs at 2.0x with a smoothness of about 33%.

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