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Behavior of Ports in Routers versus Switches

Behavior of Ports in Routers versus Switches

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Tamalou59
Junior Member
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01-22-2016, 03:47 PM
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The "Don't use a router as switch" guideline still seems relevant for your setup. The UCG-Fiber link is routed through the Unifi Pro Max, and you're considering adding a PCIe NIC for better performance. While the gateway handles routing and security, its ports are not optimized for switching traffic efficiently. This could lead to slower speeds or instability, especially with high-bandwidth devices. Testing it safely would involve monitoring bandwidth usage and checking if your NIC actually improves throughput without causing issues.
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Tamalou59
01-22-2016, 03:47 PM #1

The "Don't use a router as switch" guideline still seems relevant for your setup. The UCG-Fiber link is routed through the Unifi Pro Max, and you're considering adding a PCIe NIC for better performance. While the gateway handles routing and security, its ports are not optimized for switching traffic efficiently. This could lead to slower speeds or instability, especially with high-bandwidth devices. Testing it safely would involve monitoring bandwidth usage and checking if your NIC actually improves throughput without causing issues.

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Caribbean_Blue
Senior Member
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02-10-2016, 08:43 PM
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This is a home network. Do whatever you want. As long as your devices are on the same subnet, your router is going to handle it just fine. There are some break downs if you transfer across VLANs in Unifi. That's where your router will be a very weak link because it will default to firewall rules, which use your router's CPU, instead of the ASIC processor in most switches. Now as far as "dont use a router as a switch." I thought that means not to daisy chain routers in your network (or place a router downstream of another router). As far as your use case, just connect your devices and use them.
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Caribbean_Blue
02-10-2016, 08:43 PM #2

This is a home network. Do whatever you want. As long as your devices are on the same subnet, your router is going to handle it just fine. There are some break downs if you transfer across VLANs in Unifi. That's where your router will be a very weak link because it will default to firewall rules, which use your router's CPU, instead of the ASIC processor in most switches. Now as far as "dont use a router as a switch." I thought that means not to daisy chain routers in your network (or place a router downstream of another router). As far as your use case, just connect your devices and use them.

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Rounyx
Posting Freak
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02-12-2016, 08:13 AM
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For a home setup with a maximum of 2.5gbe, performance isn't usually a concern. If your tasks involve heavy CPU usage, you'll likely need more advanced networking gear to meet latency and speed requirements. The specifications don't clearly indicate this, but checking the configuration through SSH can reveal details. Simply connect to the 2.5gbe port and observe if any problems occur. It should handle file transfers smoothly at that speed.
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Rounyx
02-12-2016, 08:13 AM #3

For a home setup with a maximum of 2.5gbe, performance isn't usually a concern. If your tasks involve heavy CPU usage, you'll likely need more advanced networking gear to meet latency and speed requirements. The specifications don't clearly indicate this, but checking the configuration through SSH can reveal details. Simply connect to the 2.5gbe port and observe if any problems occur. It should handle file transfers smoothly at that speed.

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CraftArt
Member
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02-20-2016, 07:16 AM
#4
You were seeking clarification on whether these multi-port Unifi gateways include both ASICs and CPUs. Based on the information provided, it appears they do not.
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CraftArt
02-20-2016, 07:16 AM #4

You were seeking clarification on whether these multi-port Unifi gateways include both ASICs and CPUs. Based on the information provided, it appears they do not.

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jurre303
Junior Member
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02-21-2016, 02:42 AM
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My computer is now reaching its 2.5GbE limit while handling big file moves. There’s an open 10GbE connection at the gateway, but all other devices would need to use the Pro Max 16 port.
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jurre303
02-21-2016, 02:42 AM #5

My computer is now reaching its 2.5GbE limit while handling big file moves. There’s an open 10GbE connection at the gateway, but all other devices would need to use the Pro Max 16 port.

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Julie_08
Member
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02-21-2016, 11:06 AM
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I believe your response is partially correct. The ASIC processor manages layer 2 switching for the 2.5 Gbps RJ45 ports, while SPF+ ports connect directly to the CPU mainly for IPS/IDS functions. The 10 Gbps port likely also uses the ASIC processor. You should be okay as long as your devices share the same subnet. Over-engineering isn't a problem if you stay within the layer 2 area. Once VLANs and layer 3 switching are involved, performance may drop.
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Julie_08
02-21-2016, 11:06 AM #6

I believe your response is partially correct. The ASIC processor manages layer 2 switching for the 2.5 Gbps RJ45 ports, while SPF+ ports connect directly to the CPU mainly for IPS/IDS functions. The 10 Gbps port likely also uses the ASIC processor. You should be okay as long as your devices share the same subnet. Over-engineering isn't a problem if you stay within the layer 2 area. Once VLANs and layer 3 switching are involved, performance may drop.

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Th3G4merX
Senior Member
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02-21-2016, 11:13 AM
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Are there any additional tasks experiencing slow performance? You don’t need to worry about line speed here—even with CPU limitations. It could affect real-time applications like live audio or video calls, but standard home network protocols are built for slower connections.
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Th3G4merX
02-21-2016, 11:13 AM #7

Are there any additional tasks experiencing slow performance? You don’t need to worry about line speed here—even with CPU limitations. It could affect real-time applications like live audio or video calls, but standard home network protocols are built for slower connections.

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THE_UNlVERSE
Member
166
02-21-2016, 03:00 PM
#8
The goal is to identify how to bypass the network speed limit. Both my PC and NAS support transfers over 2.5 Gbps.
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THE_UNlVERSE
02-21-2016, 03:00 PM #8

The goal is to identify how to bypass the network speed limit. Both my PC and NAS support transfers over 2.5 Gbps.

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nathanspike
Member
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02-28-2016, 07:52 PM
#9
Thank you! I'm ready to proceed. I need to place an order for a 10Gbps NIC right away.
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nathanspike
02-28-2016, 07:52 PM #9

Thank you! I'm ready to proceed. I need to place an order for a 10Gbps NIC right away.

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carloeliano
Member
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02-29-2016, 12:19 AM
#10
Unifi provides an external NIC up to 10gbps via USB C, though it comes at a steep price. The 5gbps version is more affordable and reliable. If you require external connectivity, think about it, but internal options might offer better value. Enjoy the transfer!
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carloeliano
02-29-2016, 12:19 AM #10

Unifi provides an external NIC up to 10gbps via USB C, though it comes at a steep price. The 5gbps version is more affordable and reliable. If you require external connectivity, think about it, but internal options might offer better value. Enjoy the transfer!

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