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Australian internet connectivity is advanced and widely accessible.

Australian internet connectivity is advanced and widely accessible.

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farmerboy18
Member
87
12-12-2023, 12:24 AM
#11
On NBN users should select another RSP. Satellite options cost $65 with iinet. Internopde offers a better deal with fixed wireless. It’s unclear which technology you’re using, but I recommend checking iinet for satellite services. Currently, the average NBN speed is 37Mb/s. This means that while some Australians are exceeding that speed, others are falling behind. Rural areas typically see around 20Mb/s, and newer regions approach the full 100Mb/s. As I recall, rural Australians receiving less than 5Mb/s (or even under 10Mb/s) is a small number—showing progress despite challenges. Essentially, fixed wireless and satellite are becoming more accessible because the cost of fibre or distant nodes would be prohibitively high for most people.
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farmerboy18
12-12-2023, 12:24 AM #11

On NBN users should select another RSP. Satellite options cost $65 with iinet. Internopde offers a better deal with fixed wireless. It’s unclear which technology you’re using, but I recommend checking iinet for satellite services. Currently, the average NBN speed is 37Mb/s. This means that while some Australians are exceeding that speed, others are falling behind. Rural areas typically see around 20Mb/s, and newer regions approach the full 100Mb/s. As I recall, rural Australians receiving less than 5Mb/s (or even under 10Mb/s) is a small number—showing progress despite challenges. Essentially, fixed wireless and satellite are becoming more accessible because the cost of fibre or distant nodes would be prohibitively high for most people.

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Ziiks84
Member
99
12-12-2023, 07:37 AM
#12
You're absolutely correct. As I previously said, my parents' location offers much worse service. It's only about an hour from the capital, and they'll be using skymuster—no NBN at all. Rural and regional areas here are really lacking in quality connections. You just need to leave the city centers to see how it truly is.
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Ziiks84
12-12-2023, 07:37 AM #12

You're absolutely correct. As I previously said, my parents' location offers much worse service. It's only about an hour from the capital, and they'll be using skymuster—no NBN at all. Rural and regional areas here are really lacking in quality connections. You just need to leave the city centers to see how it truly is.

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RoastyMC
Junior Member
16
12-18-2023, 08:23 PM
#13
In reality, the main cause of slow speeds and bandwidth limits is usually higher demand than available capacity, not because of unfair pricing or regional bias. Companies avoid costly infrastructure when profit margins are low compared to returns. This still isn’t ideal, but it’s a different issue. [Edit] P.S., the UK has improved significantly. I live in a small village. My speed dropped from 512mbps to full local connection and then to fiber at up to 100mbps. I only get the 40 down / 10 up package for about £25 a month, though it’s described as unlimited. I’m now considering 4G mobile internet because it’s also unlimited and costs £18 a month (with tethering). It performs well—around 80-100mbps download, 10mbps upload, with ping around 30-60ms. Back in the day, getting broadband ISDN from 1 to 8mbps was common, but now most homes have better options. If you’re on the edge of town or in a rural area, speeds may still be limited to 6mbps or less. Though most properties are now broadband (ISDN2+) or higher, they can struggle with long-distance connections. PS, what Mr Moose mentioned reminds me—about ten years ago, some villages spent £30-60k on new lines, either for fiber or Wi-Fi solutions, and a few even chose their own WiMax networks. There was even a business Wi-Fi option in my area, but it was labeled as such and I could only see the brand name, not the provider.]
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RoastyMC
12-18-2023, 08:23 PM #13

In reality, the main cause of slow speeds and bandwidth limits is usually higher demand than available capacity, not because of unfair pricing or regional bias. Companies avoid costly infrastructure when profit margins are low compared to returns. This still isn’t ideal, but it’s a different issue. [Edit] P.S., the UK has improved significantly. I live in a small village. My speed dropped from 512mbps to full local connection and then to fiber at up to 100mbps. I only get the 40 down / 10 up package for about £25 a month, though it’s described as unlimited. I’m now considering 4G mobile internet because it’s also unlimited and costs £18 a month (with tethering). It performs well—around 80-100mbps download, 10mbps upload, with ping around 30-60ms. Back in the day, getting broadband ISDN from 1 to 8mbps was common, but now most homes have better options. If you’re on the edge of town or in a rural area, speeds may still be limited to 6mbps or less. Though most properties are now broadband (ISDN2+) or higher, they can struggle with long-distance connections. PS, what Mr Moose mentioned reminds me—about ten years ago, some villages spent £30-60k on new lines, either for fiber or Wi-Fi solutions, and a few even chose their own WiMax networks. There was even a business Wi-Fi option in my area, but it was labeled as such and I could only see the brand name, not the provider.]

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samaclause
Member
142
12-22-2023, 08:58 PM
#14
Labors strategy lacked thorough research. No feasibility assessment was conducted. Funding was insufficient from the start, leading contractors into significant trouble. The proposed plan aimed to get basic functionality without relying on contractors, avoiding lawsuits and project failure. Updating the lines would simply mean redoing them with new installations. The decision to abandon FTTP stemmed from budget constraints; otherwise, copper relaying would have been equally problematic. This infrastructure is so outdated that many pits contain asbestos, posing risks during remediation. Media coverage often exaggerates issues—some individuals misrepresented Australian Wi-Fi performance online. If the person mentioned was in Melbourne, they likely paid high fees for a Vodafone plan and attempted uploads during peak times. The core problem lies in the network's scale; only dense urban areas can justify such investments. Rural regions consistently face poor service, as seen in the US and across many countries. Simply wanting universal speeds doesn’t guarantee feasibility everywhere. I’ve gathered several NBN documents, original plans, and financial reports if needed. Comparing Australia to places like Kazakhstan is misleading—actual speed tests are limited to existing connections, and reliable infrastructure exists only where demand justifies it. Remember Korea and Sweden, where much of Africa operates under similar constraints. For a detailed analysis, see this Alpha/Beta report: https://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbn...report.pdf
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samaclause
12-22-2023, 08:58 PM #14

Labors strategy lacked thorough research. No feasibility assessment was conducted. Funding was insufficient from the start, leading contractors into significant trouble. The proposed plan aimed to get basic functionality without relying on contractors, avoiding lawsuits and project failure. Updating the lines would simply mean redoing them with new installations. The decision to abandon FTTP stemmed from budget constraints; otherwise, copper relaying would have been equally problematic. This infrastructure is so outdated that many pits contain asbestos, posing risks during remediation. Media coverage often exaggerates issues—some individuals misrepresented Australian Wi-Fi performance online. If the person mentioned was in Melbourne, they likely paid high fees for a Vodafone plan and attempted uploads during peak times. The core problem lies in the network's scale; only dense urban areas can justify such investments. Rural regions consistently face poor service, as seen in the US and across many countries. Simply wanting universal speeds doesn’t guarantee feasibility everywhere. I’ve gathered several NBN documents, original plans, and financial reports if needed. Comparing Australia to places like Kazakhstan is misleading—actual speed tests are limited to existing connections, and reliable infrastructure exists only where demand justifies it. Remember Korea and Sweden, where much of Africa operates under similar constraints. For a detailed analysis, see this Alpha/Beta report: https://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbn...report.pdf

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deadly_cute
Member
59
12-29-2023, 02:22 AM
#15
The plan proposed by the liberal group was highly questionable and its execution was extremely disappointing. After six months, despite significant effort, most residents still received only 200Kbps speeds. Frequent disconnections were common, and it took a long time for Telstra to respond with a technician. Their lack of concern isn’t due to dislike for rural areas but because they couldn’t afford the solution. Rural communities don’t need new infrastructure; WiFi was originally created in Australia by CSIRO. It might be worth exploring their expertise instead of relying on costly fixes. The labor plan they presented seemed more like a temporary fix rather than a real upgrade. Liberals essentially offered a band-aid that cost a lot of money. Regardless of the perspective, the Australian internet is still problematic—NBIN is just a joke, and while some users function, many face issues. Those outside the network often experience worse performance, and when they do connect, they’re negatively impacted. The data shows towns with fewer nodes would handle more traffic than our local area, yet we only see reduced speeds. It’s not about sending data through them; it’s about predatory practices. Every time someone asks about speeds, they repeat the same script: a cheaper satellite plan promises faster data for a small fee, while the real issue remains unaddressed.
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deadly_cute
12-29-2023, 02:22 AM #15

The plan proposed by the liberal group was highly questionable and its execution was extremely disappointing. After six months, despite significant effort, most residents still received only 200Kbps speeds. Frequent disconnections were common, and it took a long time for Telstra to respond with a technician. Their lack of concern isn’t due to dislike for rural areas but because they couldn’t afford the solution. Rural communities don’t need new infrastructure; WiFi was originally created in Australia by CSIRO. It might be worth exploring their expertise instead of relying on costly fixes. The labor plan they presented seemed more like a temporary fix rather than a real upgrade. Liberals essentially offered a band-aid that cost a lot of money. Regardless of the perspective, the Australian internet is still problematic—NBIN is just a joke, and while some users function, many face issues. Those outside the network often experience worse performance, and when they do connect, they’re negatively impacted. The data shows towns with fewer nodes would handle more traffic than our local area, yet we only see reduced speeds. It’s not about sending data through them; it’s about predatory practices. Every time someone asks about speeds, they repeat the same script: a cheaper satellite plan promises faster data for a small fee, while the real issue remains unaddressed.

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deckaustin
Junior Member
3
01-03-2024, 11:27 PM
#16
Labors' strategy overlooked a feasibility assessment before any Liberal government took office. Before funding was secured, contractors faced financial shortfalls, leading some to damage pipes out of frustration. The entire project turned into a chaotic situation. From the beginning to today, the NBN has been plagued by political mismanagement and misleading promises. https://delimiter.com.au/2013/06/03/pay-...new-pipes/ https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-31/n...s/10187108 It doesn't matter what the Liberals did; the initial plan was always out of reach due to lack of accurate cost estimates and fabricated numbers for campaign purposes.
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deckaustin
01-03-2024, 11:27 PM #16

Labors' strategy overlooked a feasibility assessment before any Liberal government took office. Before funding was secured, contractors faced financial shortfalls, leading some to damage pipes out of frustration. The entire project turned into a chaotic situation. From the beginning to today, the NBN has been plagued by political mismanagement and misleading promises. https://delimiter.com.au/2013/06/03/pay-...new-pipes/ https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-31/n...s/10187108 It doesn't matter what the Liberals did; the initial plan was always out of reach due to lack of accurate cost estimates and fabricated numbers for campaign purposes.

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