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Kamikaze_007
Senior Member
625
06-04-2021, 04:04 PM
#1
Hello everyone,
I've been planning to build a new PC for some time now, but with the sharp increase in RAM and SSD costs, I thought it was the right moment to proceed instead of waiting.

A bit about my situation:
I have limited experience with PC components. My setup is assembled from various YouTube videos, conversations with friends, and reviews. I might be missing some details here, so if any of my choices seem doubtful, please let me know.

The intended use will be mainly for gaming, browsing the internet, and watching movies. For games, I’m thinking singleplayer titles that offer a good visual experience—like Red Dead, Cyberpunk, or Clair Obscur—but I don’t want to overspend on advanced features such as ray tracing or 4K resolution unless it’s not too expensive.

Competitive gaming isn’t important to me, and RGB lighting isn’t a priority for me.
Ideally, the system should have a decent lifespan. My current laptop is six years old, so it could serve as a useful benchmark.

I’m based in Germany, which might affect pricing slightly. I use Idealo to compare prices and place orders based on what I find there.

Here’s what I came up with:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€445.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM (€43.89 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 (€238.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (1 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (€172.05 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (€180.85 @ reichelt elektronik)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB (€621.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Silent ATX Full Tower (€105.89 @ Computeruniverse)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX (€110.02 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Total: €1918.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2025-12-13 15:48 CET+0100

A few notes:
The budget so far is acceptable, and I’m open to a slight increase of around 100 to 200 euros, though it could vary depending on the recommendations and their reasoning (it should be solid).

I chose AMD parts because they appear to offer the best value compared to Intel or Nvidia.
The motherboard has a 'Q-Flash' feature, which a friend suggested helps prevent system damage when swapping the CPU.

Regarding RGB RAM, it looks reasonably priced compared to other options.
I’m not too concerned about monitors since I want a decent viewing experience—higher graphic settings and lower FPS are acceptable. A 100 to 120 Hz monitor should work. I also thought WHD resolution would be a good middle ground between 1080p and 4K, and that IPS panels suit my needs. For example, this monitor seems reasonable despite being cheaper than the 100 Hz version... Do you have other suggestions?

My main questions are:
Are there any compatibility issues I missed?
Does the system fit the games and purposes I have in mind? In short, did I go over or under budget enough? Is it a good setup overall?
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Kamikaze_007
06-04-2021, 04:04 PM #1

Hello everyone,
I've been planning to build a new PC for some time now, but with the sharp increase in RAM and SSD costs, I thought it was the right moment to proceed instead of waiting.

A bit about my situation:
I have limited experience with PC components. My setup is assembled from various YouTube videos, conversations with friends, and reviews. I might be missing some details here, so if any of my choices seem doubtful, please let me know.

The intended use will be mainly for gaming, browsing the internet, and watching movies. For games, I’m thinking singleplayer titles that offer a good visual experience—like Red Dead, Cyberpunk, or Clair Obscur—but I don’t want to overspend on advanced features such as ray tracing or 4K resolution unless it’s not too expensive.

Competitive gaming isn’t important to me, and RGB lighting isn’t a priority for me.
Ideally, the system should have a decent lifespan. My current laptop is six years old, so it could serve as a useful benchmark.

I’m based in Germany, which might affect pricing slightly. I use Idealo to compare prices and place orders based on what I find there.

Here’s what I came up with:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor (€445.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM (€43.89 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 (€238.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (1 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 (€172.05 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD (€180.85 @ reichelt elektronik)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB (€621.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Silent ATX Full Tower (€105.89 @ Computeruniverse)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX (€110.02 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
Total: €1918.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2025-12-13 15:48 CET+0100

A few notes:
The budget so far is acceptable, and I’m open to a slight increase of around 100 to 200 euros, though it could vary depending on the recommendations and their reasoning (it should be solid).

I chose AMD parts because they appear to offer the best value compared to Intel or Nvidia.
The motherboard has a 'Q-Flash' feature, which a friend suggested helps prevent system damage when swapping the CPU.

Regarding RGB RAM, it looks reasonably priced compared to other options.
I’m not too concerned about monitors since I want a decent viewing experience—higher graphic settings and lower FPS are acceptable. A 100 to 120 Hz monitor should work. I also thought WHD resolution would be a good middle ground between 1080p and 4K, and that IPS panels suit my needs. For example, this monitor seems reasonable despite being cheaper than the 100 Hz version... Do you have other suggestions?

My main questions are:
Are there any compatibility issues I missed?
Does the system fit the games and purposes I have in mind? In short, did I go over or under budget enough? Is it a good setup overall?

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XxLollyPopxX
Member
70
06-04-2021, 08:55 PM
#2
Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
A single stick of RAM will only affect your system's overall performance. Consider a 2x RAM package. The speed and latency you've chosen are suitable for AMD's AM5 platform. You might also explore a smaller SSD capacity to store the OS, apps, and launchers—something around 500GB would work well. Your complete setup, excluding RAM, can handle up to 2K in-game graphics.
What is your budget for the entire build?
Edit:
Do you have a specific reason for choosing an XL case from Fractal-Design? You might opt for a more practical chassis if you don’t plan to set up a server or HDD array.
Here’s my recommendation:

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€445.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler:
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
(€83.90 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard:
MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€238.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€432.04 @ Computersalg)
Storage:
Western Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€72.90 @ Computeruniverse)
Storage:
Western Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€174.90 @ Alza)
Video Card:
Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card
(€621.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case:
Fractal Design Pop XL Silent ATX Full Tower Case
(€105.89 @ Computeruniverse)
Power Supply:
Montech CENTURY II 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€93.90 @ Alza)
Total: €2269.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts

Generated by
PCPartPicker
2025-12-13 16:06 CET+0100
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XxLollyPopxX
06-04-2021, 08:55 PM #2

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
A single stick of RAM will only affect your system's overall performance. Consider a 2x RAM package. The speed and latency you've chosen are suitable for AMD's AM5 platform. You might also explore a smaller SSD capacity to store the OS, apps, and launchers—something around 500GB would work well. Your complete setup, excluding RAM, can handle up to 2K in-game graphics.
What is your budget for the entire build?
Edit:
Do you have a specific reason for choosing an XL case from Fractal-Design? You might opt for a more practical chassis if you don’t plan to set up a server or HDD array.
Here’s my recommendation:

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€445.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de)
CPU Cooler:
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 77 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
(€83.90 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard:
MSI MAG B850 TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€238.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€432.04 @ Computersalg)
Storage:
Western Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€72.90 @ Computeruniverse)
Storage:
Western Digital WD_BLACK SN7100 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€174.90 @ Alza)
Video Card:
Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 9070 XT 16 GB Video Card
(€621.91 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case:
Fractal Design Pop XL Silent ATX Full Tower Case
(€105.89 @ Computeruniverse)
Power Supply:
Montech CENTURY II 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€93.90 @ Alza)
Total: €2269.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts

Generated by
PCPartPicker
2025-12-13 16:06 CET+0100

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creuse02
Member
172
06-05-2021, 03:15 AM
#3
If you have the budget for an 850W or more power supply, I suggest
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creuse02
06-05-2021, 03:15 AM #3

If you have the budget for an 850W or more power supply, I suggest

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yoman199
Member
68
06-05-2021, 04:41 AM
#4
From what I understand, the newer DDR5 RAM already supports dual channel, though there are more details involved. Because a 2x16GB configuration costs about double the price of a single 32GB stick, it's worth questioning whether the performance gain is significant. The additional SSD appears to be a sensible upgrade. My main budget is around 2000€, but I’m open to spending up to 2200€ or a bit more. Your current recommendation still fits within my capabilities. I chose this larger case because it includes four fans, which helps avoid compatibility issues between components. Physical space isn’t a concern for me. Assuming both of you agree on an 850W power supply, I’ll include that in the final setup. Do you think the fan cooler will be sufficient for this system?
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yoman199
06-05-2021, 04:41 AM #4

From what I understand, the newer DDR5 RAM already supports dual channel, though there are more details involved. Because a 2x16GB configuration costs about double the price of a single 32GB stick, it's worth questioning whether the performance gain is significant. The additional SSD appears to be a sensible upgrade. My main budget is around 2000€, but I’m open to spending up to 2200€ or a bit more. Your current recommendation still fits within my capabilities. I chose this larger case because it includes four fans, which helps avoid compatibility issues between components. Physical space isn’t a concern for me. Assuming both of you agree on an 850W power supply, I’ll include that in the final setup. Do you think the fan cooler will be sufficient for this system?

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Macattack1972
Member
140
06-06-2021, 06:24 PM
#5
Contemporary desktop CPUs feature two Integrated Memory Controller channels, which means that if you install only one DIMM, the overall memory bandwidth will be reduced by half. This limitation may not significantly affect simple applications, but it could impact more demanding software. To fully utilize a desktop CPU, consider installing a set of two DIMMs. When purchasing RAM, opt for a single matched package, typically consisting of two DIMMs, although for larger capacities (128GB or more), a kit with four matched DIMMs may be necessary. Purchasing two separate kits—either two individual DIMMs or two single units—results in memory modules from different production runs and varying 'bins'. Small timing discrepancies between unmatched DIMMs can cause instability, particularly when overclocking RAM at high XMP speeds. Therefore, forum users advise buying all your memory together as a single matched set.

If you acquire one DDR5 DIMM now and another identical DIMM later, even if they share the same part number, their timing characteristics will differ slightly. They could function well together or not at all. This uncertainty presents a risk you should consider. The current period isn't ideal for purchasing DDR5, so decisions are up to you.

Life becomes more challenging when selecting a server CPU (such as Xeon or EPYC). Professional processors often include 4 or 8 IMC channels, requiring a matched kit of four or eight DIMMs to achieve optimal capacity and performance.

A cautionary note: I recently swapped an outdated (2021) ATX 2.x Corsair TX850M power supply for a contemporary MSI A1000G ATX 3.x model. The upgrade was necessary because my 7950X system frequently crashed under heavy loads with RTX 3060 and then RTX 4070. Switching to a modern ATX 3.x power supply with ample headroom resolved the issue.

Older ATX 2.x power supplies often suffer from Over Current Protection that activates during significant current spikes from certain NVidia graphics cards, typically around 120%–130% of rated capacity. In reality, these GPU surges (lasting only a few microseconds) represent only about twice the normal power draw—such as a 400W spike for a 200W card. However, my old TX850M struggled with a 170W RTX 3060 or 4070 despite the PSU's 850W rating.

Modern ATX 3.x power supplies boast a 200% short-term Over Current Protection threshold, designed to handle NVidia transients. You should be comfortable with a modern ATX 3.x 850W PSU paired with an RTX 5070. If you can find a Tier-A 1000W ATX 3.x power supply at a reasonable price, it might be worth exploring further.

Note: My choice of an MSI A1000G over a Corsair RX1000M was influenced by Corsair discontinuing the -12V rail, and some motherboards still require it to function properly. Check what other forum members recommend.
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Macattack1972
06-06-2021, 06:24 PM #5

Contemporary desktop CPUs feature two Integrated Memory Controller channels, which means that if you install only one DIMM, the overall memory bandwidth will be reduced by half. This limitation may not significantly affect simple applications, but it could impact more demanding software. To fully utilize a desktop CPU, consider installing a set of two DIMMs. When purchasing RAM, opt for a single matched package, typically consisting of two DIMMs, although for larger capacities (128GB or more), a kit with four matched DIMMs may be necessary. Purchasing two separate kits—either two individual DIMMs or two single units—results in memory modules from different production runs and varying 'bins'. Small timing discrepancies between unmatched DIMMs can cause instability, particularly when overclocking RAM at high XMP speeds. Therefore, forum users advise buying all your memory together as a single matched set.

If you acquire one DDR5 DIMM now and another identical DIMM later, even if they share the same part number, their timing characteristics will differ slightly. They could function well together or not at all. This uncertainty presents a risk you should consider. The current period isn't ideal for purchasing DDR5, so decisions are up to you.

Life becomes more challenging when selecting a server CPU (such as Xeon or EPYC). Professional processors often include 4 or 8 IMC channels, requiring a matched kit of four or eight DIMMs to achieve optimal capacity and performance.

A cautionary note: I recently swapped an outdated (2021) ATX 2.x Corsair TX850M power supply for a contemporary MSI A1000G ATX 3.x model. The upgrade was necessary because my 7950X system frequently crashed under heavy loads with RTX 3060 and then RTX 4070. Switching to a modern ATX 3.x power supply with ample headroom resolved the issue.

Older ATX 2.x power supplies often suffer from Over Current Protection that activates during significant current spikes from certain NVidia graphics cards, typically around 120%–130% of rated capacity. In reality, these GPU surges (lasting only a few microseconds) represent only about twice the normal power draw—such as a 400W spike for a 200W card. However, my old TX850M struggled with a 170W RTX 3060 or 4070 despite the PSU's 850W rating.

Modern ATX 3.x power supplies boast a 200% short-term Over Current Protection threshold, designed to handle NVidia transients. You should be comfortable with a modern ATX 3.x 850W PSU paired with an RTX 5070. If you can find a Tier-A 1000W ATX 3.x power supply at a reasonable price, it might be worth exploring further.

Note: My choice of an MSI A1000G over a Corsair RX1000M was influenced by Corsair discontinuing the -12V rail, and some motherboards still require it to function properly. Check what other forum members recommend.

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winndich
Member
156
06-12-2021, 07:56 PM
#6
Your list makes sense up to a certain stage.
My considerations:
1. Ryzen speed depends heavily on RAM performance. Consider purchasing a 2 x 16gb package.
Ryzen also has specific requirements for RAM compatibility. Check the recommended memory specifications for your motherboard and 9000 series board here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B850...upport#mem
Acquire a memory kit that matches these guidelines or from a reputable vendor. Not all RAM will function correctly.
2. A 2TB M.2 SSD is a sensible choice.
Invest in a 850-watt power supply unit. A ten-year warranty indicates reliable build quality.
The cost difference between models is typically small. A more powerful PSU can better manage GPU surges and supports future upgrades.
It will still draw only the power it needs, irrespective of its maximum rating.
3. Qflash enables easy BIOS updates, even without a CPU if necessary.
When selecting monitors, consider visiting them in person if possible.
Otherwise, consult reviews on rtings.com. KTC appears to be a Chinese brand producing OEM monitors; they seem to be expanding their own product line.
A monitor is a significant investment—feel free to adjust your budget to get the best available option.
I’d aim for larger displays and 4K resolution if possible.
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winndich
06-12-2021, 07:56 PM #6

Your list makes sense up to a certain stage.
My considerations:
1. Ryzen speed depends heavily on RAM performance. Consider purchasing a 2 x 16gb package.
Ryzen also has specific requirements for RAM compatibility. Check the recommended memory specifications for your motherboard and 9000 series board here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B850...upport#mem
Acquire a memory kit that matches these guidelines or from a reputable vendor. Not all RAM will function correctly.
2. A 2TB M.2 SSD is a sensible choice.
Invest in a 850-watt power supply unit. A ten-year warranty indicates reliable build quality.
The cost difference between models is typically small. A more powerful PSU can better manage GPU surges and supports future upgrades.
It will still draw only the power it needs, irrespective of its maximum rating.
3. Qflash enables easy BIOS updates, even without a CPU if necessary.
When selecting monitors, consider visiting them in person if possible.
Otherwise, consult reviews on rtings.com. KTC appears to be a Chinese brand producing OEM monitors; they seem to be expanding their own product line.
A monitor is a significant investment—feel free to adjust your budget to get the best available option.
I’d aim for larger displays and 4K resolution if possible.

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ScrumSteve
Junior Member
4
06-12-2021, 11:00 PM
#7
Other offers related to the product can be found at various links provided.
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ScrumSteve
06-12-2021, 11:00 PM #7

Other offers related to the product can be found at various links provided.

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WPaige
Senior Member
377
06-13-2021, 12:29 AM
#8
The ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi offers advanced features such as 12 + 2 power stages, ultra-fast DDR5 memory, and PCIe® 5.0 connectivity. It includes three M.2 slots with heatsinks, a USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 port, WiFi 6E, AI Networking, Two-Way AI Noise Cancelation, and Aura Sync RGB lighting.
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WPaige
06-13-2021, 12:29 AM #8

The ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi offers advanced features such as 12 + 2 power stages, ultra-fast DDR5 memory, and PCIe® 5.0 connectivity. It includes three M.2 slots with heatsinks, a USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 port, WiFi 6E, AI Networking, Two-Way AI Noise Cancelation, and Aura Sync RGB lighting.

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Knoppic
Junior Member
15
06-13-2021, 01:21 AM
#9
When using dual M.2 SSDs, check a X870E / X670E chipset board for additional PCIe lanes. Avoid wasting a lot of money if your video card only supports x8 instead of x16. A standard 2TB SSD will work perfectly.
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Knoppic
06-13-2021, 01:21 AM #9

When using dual M.2 SSDs, check a X870E / X670E chipset board for additional PCIe lanes. Avoid wasting a lot of money if your video card only supports x8 instead of x16. A standard 2TB SSD will work perfectly.

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erroch
Member
67
06-13-2021, 07:00 AM
#10
Thank you all for your ideas and clarifications. I hadn’t considered those options before.
My updated configuration would be as follows:
PCPartPicker Part List
Notes:
I replaced the air cooler with a superior model.
I decided to add 2x16GB of RAM, which fits my motherboard.
I deleted the 500GB SSD; partitioning my hard drive should provide similar results without impacting my GPU.
I added an 850W power supply and confirmed it meets ATX 3.1 standards to prevent system issues. It appears well rated on ZTTBuilds if that matters.
On DisplayNinja I discovered the Lenovo P27Q-40, which satisfies all my requirements (except possibly minor flaws), offering 120 Hz, high color accuracy, QHD and IPS panel.
I believe my current setup isn’t strong enough for smooth 4K performance, since this test shows I’m only achieving around 60 FPS in QHD mode for one of my games.
Would you have any additional recommendations?
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erroch
06-13-2021, 07:00 AM #10

Thank you all for your ideas and clarifications. I hadn’t considered those options before.
My updated configuration would be as follows:
PCPartPicker Part List
Notes:
I replaced the air cooler with a superior model.
I decided to add 2x16GB of RAM, which fits my motherboard.
I deleted the 500GB SSD; partitioning my hard drive should provide similar results without impacting my GPU.
I added an 850W power supply and confirmed it meets ATX 3.1 standards to prevent system issues. It appears well rated on ZTTBuilds if that matters.
On DisplayNinja I discovered the Lenovo P27Q-40, which satisfies all my requirements (except possibly minor flaws), offering 120 Hz, high color accuracy, QHD and IPS panel.
I believe my current setup isn’t strong enough for smooth 4K performance, since this test shows I’m only achieving around 60 FPS in QHD mode for one of my games.
Would you have any additional recommendations?

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