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ARM will likely become the dominant CPU for PCs in the near future as more manufacturers adopt its architecture.

ARM will likely become the dominant CPU for PCs in the near future as more manufacturers adopt its architecture.

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02-10-2016, 05:51 AM
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Title and the content inquire about a different topic. The information is already present on the PCs.
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pvpzkiller4791
02-10-2016, 05:51 AM #11

Title and the content inquire about a different topic. The information is already present on the PCs.

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JamesHond7
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02-10-2016, 10:14 AM
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JamesHond7
02-10-2016, 10:14 AM #12

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Markitos174
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02-10-2016, 10:54 AM
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Well, I'm just saying that in a year most PCs will likely run on ARM. Software needs to be built for ARM architecture. Windows and Linux both support ARM, plus there are several open-source operating systems. It makes sense for those who prioritize low power use and don't notice significant speed drops.
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Markitos174
02-10-2016, 10:54 AM #13

Well, I'm just saying that in a year most PCs will likely run on ARM. Software needs to be built for ARM architecture. Windows and Linux both support ARM, plus there are several open-source operating systems. It makes sense for those who prioritize low power use and don't notice significant speed drops.

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SubTemp
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02-11-2016, 12:08 AM
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The challenge lies in ARM's current position as a dedicated SoC, not being widely adopted on desktop PCs. This is mainly because it remains soldered until a standardized socket solution emerges, after which ARM's growth in desktops becomes unlikely.
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SubTemp
02-11-2016, 12:08 AM #14

The challenge lies in ARM's current position as a dedicated SoC, not being widely adopted on desktop PCs. This is mainly because it remains soldered until a standardized socket solution emerges, after which ARM's growth in desktops becomes unlikely.

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sonic3003
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02-22-2016, 02:29 PM
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It doesn't seem logical, mainly because ARM's efficiency comes from being an integrated system on a chip where you can't just swap out parts easily. A few companies tried moving the SoC onto a separate board, but that reduces performance and lacks consistency, forcing reliance on one supplier for real improvements. This issue is especially bothersome in laptops, where you need to upgrade RAM and storage, which isn't practical. Even with this, each vendor builds their own SoC, making it harder to compare and complicating things further compared to x86. Or we might end up with all ARM devices from the same maker, limiting choices and pushing higher costs. It's not as efficient as commonly believed, especially when you consider devices like the Steam Deck. On x86 systems, limited input/output can actually make the performance gap smaller than expected.
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sonic3003
02-22-2016, 02:29 PM #15

It doesn't seem logical, mainly because ARM's efficiency comes from being an integrated system on a chip where you can't just swap out parts easily. A few companies tried moving the SoC onto a separate board, but that reduces performance and lacks consistency, forcing reliance on one supplier for real improvements. This issue is especially bothersome in laptops, where you need to upgrade RAM and storage, which isn't practical. Even with this, each vendor builds their own SoC, making it harder to compare and complicating things further compared to x86. Or we might end up with all ARM devices from the same maker, limiting choices and pushing higher costs. It's not as efficient as commonly believed, especially when you consider devices like the Steam Deck. On x86 systems, limited input/output can actually make the performance gap smaller than expected.

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10th_Doctor_
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02-22-2016, 08:32 PM
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Combined with the prior discussion.
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10th_Doctor_
02-22-2016, 08:32 PM #16

Combined with the prior discussion.

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JuliBr0
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03-02-2016, 05:08 PM
#17
I attempted it, but missed the quicker section.
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JuliBr0
03-02-2016, 05:08 PM #17

I attempted it, but missed the quicker section.

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frenero
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03-02-2016, 08:15 PM
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Nvidia and AMD are embracing ARM technology. Intel remains silent on the matter. AMD might rely on existing solutions, while Nvidia could develop its own. These major players possess substantial resources.
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frenero
03-02-2016, 08:15 PM #18

Nvidia and AMD are embracing ARM technology. Intel remains silent on the matter. AMD might rely on existing solutions, while Nvidia could develop its own. These major players possess substantial resources.

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NinatoPvP
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03-02-2016, 10:23 PM
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They will likely succeed, especially for laptops that deliver strong performance without excessive power use, similar to the MacBook Pro. But for desktop computers, I question any real advantage. As discussed, much of the inefficiency stems from PCIe and RAM connectors, as well as components with long wiring paths. Any part relying on sockets or extensive traces increases power draw. This is evident with Intel’s N100, which uses only efficiency cores and limited I/O, consuming less power. In comparable setups, I’m not convinced ARM provides a clear edge over similarly constrained x86 architectures. It’s always been more advantageous for idle power savings and low-power devices, like consumer routers. I’m not against ARM; growing up, I was fascinated by Acorn’s Archimedes machines that outperformed others in efficiency and cost. ARM has consistently offered better efficiency over the years, which is why we haven’t fully adopted it in PCs.
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NinatoPvP
03-02-2016, 10:23 PM #19

They will likely succeed, especially for laptops that deliver strong performance without excessive power use, similar to the MacBook Pro. But for desktop computers, I question any real advantage. As discussed, much of the inefficiency stems from PCIe and RAM connectors, as well as components with long wiring paths. Any part relying on sockets or extensive traces increases power draw. This is evident with Intel’s N100, which uses only efficiency cores and limited I/O, consuming less power. In comparable setups, I’m not convinced ARM provides a clear edge over similarly constrained x86 architectures. It’s always been more advantageous for idle power savings and low-power devices, like consumer routers. I’m not against ARM; growing up, I was fascinated by Acorn’s Archimedes machines that outperformed others in efficiency and cost. ARM has consistently offered better efficiency over the years, which is why we haven’t fully adopted it in PCs.

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Vichoflo
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03-06-2016, 04:32 PM
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We should observe how developments unfold over the coming generations. Intel is currently regressing in power efficiency for their main series, which isn't encouraging.
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Vichoflo
03-06-2016, 04:32 PM #20

We should observe how developments unfold over the coming generations. Intel is currently regressing in power efficiency for their main series, which isn't encouraging.

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